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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 10:10 PM
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WP: Moderates Unhappy but Sticking With GOP for Now
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Moderates Unhappy but Sticking With GOP for Now

By Claudia Deane and Chris Cillizza

Sunday, November 13, 2005; Page A04

Earlier this fall, when former Supreme Court nominee Harriet Miers was still the one making courtesy calls on Capitol Hill, it was Republican conservatives whose outspoken discontent was drawing attention. Now, with a conservative gubernatorial candidate defeated in red-state Virginia and GOP centrists getting stubborn in the House and Senate, it's moderates who are getting their chance to gripe.

If the party's rank-and-file voters are any indication, it's moderates who by far are the grumpier group.

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It's not just Bush who is getting lackluster reviews. While 74 percent of conservatives say Republicans in Congress are doing a good job, backing falls to 54 percent among GOP moderates, down 22 points from early summer. About one-third of moderates say their party's leadership is taking them in the wrong direction.

One potential wedge is the role of conservative religious groups in determining the party's agenda. In the most recent Post-ABC News poll, 44 percent of GOP moderates said that conservative religious groups have "too much influence" in the Bush administration, compared with 17 percent who thought those groups didn't hold enough sway. About a third saw religious conservatives as appropriately influential.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/12/AR2005111200951.html
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 10:12 PM
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1. I think the title should be "GOP Moderates Unhappy..." nt
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 10:18 PM
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2. Wow, even rational repugs are coming around. I'd prefer
the knowledge of a thinking moderate to a raging rightwing wacko. Having said that, some conservatives I agree with.
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callady Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 10:24 PM
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3. What's a "moderate"
All the polls and surveys leave out the fact that the vast majority of so-called "moderates" simply don't participate and see this thing called "politics" as irrelevant or impossibly corrupted.

People are thirsting for straight talk. It's in short supply.
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 10:48 PM
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4. And this should be the exact target during the election campaign
go after these televangelista loonies - they are the primary embarassment to the Republican Party. And there have been PLENTY of antics to show why they are dangerous.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 10:48 PM
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5. Moderate Republicans is a bullshit myth....Read the facts from this poll
"Asked which party they would support if the midterm elections were being held now, 13 percent of Republican moderates chose the Democrats, and 80 percent stuck with the GOP."

Over 8-1 for G Dubya after all the bullshit he has done.

They may whine about not liking this or that, but moderate Republicans are just enablers for Frist, Delay and Santorum. Screw 'em all!
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 10:55 PM
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6. Yep!!!..screw'em!!.....well said!
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Somawas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 11:09 PM
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8. Exactly. They will not vote Dem.
So let's hope that the moderate and non-neo-con Pubs decide to vote and register Libertarian. Split the Pub vote down the middle.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 04:29 AM
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9. Yeah
moderate compared to who...Adolph Hitler?!? I don't believe there are any true moderates left in that party anyone who was a true moderate already left. I used to be a moderate Repug but I left long ago when Raygun and his ilk took control of the party.x(
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 10:01 AM
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10. Probably; which is why this is interesting news.
Presuming that the "moderates" are just basically the ones who aren't total wingnut freepers and/or theocrats, or at least the ones who self-define as "moderate" because they don't see it as a dirty word (which would be truer of true fanatics). so Bush is pretty much losing anyone who has the teensiest shred of rationality, or a brain cell. still depressing, but when you lower your standards to ".001% sane" and he's *still* losing 'em, his overall numbers finally start to sink into the toilet--which they are.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 11:02 PM
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7. Then they advocate torture.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 10:55 AM
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11. Moderate republicans are far and away the most vital supporters
of the republican Reich wing. Without the blind obedience of the moderate republicans voting republican the Reich wing would have much less power over the federal government and some state governments.
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 11:01 AM
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12. And moderate republicans tend to agree with the separation
of Church and State. That is, we should NOT allow our representatives to get "bogged down" on these wedge issues. No worries, but let's focus on what draws in those SECULAR moderates.

Unfortunately few folks who attend Mass/Church each week+ are as moderate as a few of us Liberal Catholics.

I will be so thankful when the RW Catholics lose their "political clout" and appropriately stop embarrassing ME, et.a.l.! :P

Focus on Jobs and Worker Fairness!
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 11:47 AM
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13. If they agree with what's going on in congress, they are not moderates
they are radicals who are afraid to identify themselves as such.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 12:51 PM
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14. Exactly. nt
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