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ECH1969 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-13-05 11:21 PM Original message |
Venezuela's Chavez tells Mexico's Fox: 'Don't mess with me' |
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cal04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-13-05 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
1. Chavez |
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Freedomfried (684 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-13-05 11:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. He's going to get invaded, he's got the same "fuck you, Uncle Sam" |
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countmyvote4real (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-13-05 11:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Plus, his country has oil fields. |
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StrafingMoose (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 11:23 AM Response to Reply #6 |
41. And high quality sweet-crude oil that is (nt) |
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NEOBuckeye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 12:22 AM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Bush has so decimated our military, he couldn't invade his own ranch |
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BrotherBuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 01:32 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Think Mexicans could become Bush*s proxy troops for South America? |
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burrowowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 02:28 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. I don't think Mexicans |
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BrotherBuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 03:13 PM Response to Reply #13 |
58. I think you're correct at this moment, but it may escalate... |
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burrowowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 09:30 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. Mexicans struck and |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 02:22 AM Response to Reply #2 |
12. Invalid comparison... |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 10:48 AM Response to Reply #2 |
25. But he's got a lot more sense and resources than those clowns |
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Voltaire99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 03:21 AM Response to Reply #2 |
69. Watch for President Hillary to lead the invasion. |
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Union Thug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-13-05 11:35 PM Response to Original message |
3. GO GO GO Chavez! n/t |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-13-05 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
4. Argentina's Nestor Kirchner called Vicente Fox either a "puppy" |
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TriMetFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 10:52 AM Response to Reply #4 |
28. And I agree with you. |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-13-05 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
5. No me chingas, Juan Dominguez! |
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Dover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-13-05 11:54 PM Response to Original message |
7. What, Chavez doesn't like coca-cola? |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-13-05 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
8. Quien es mas macho? |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 01:18 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. El machote Chavez! |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 02:48 AM Response to Original message |
14. Fox is outnumbered with upcoming elections in Chile and Bolivia |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 03:27 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Just found an article which would blend well with your remarks. |
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jseankil (604 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 03:08 AM Response to Original message |
15. Chavez seemly acting more like a nutcase. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 03:23 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. What do you know about the situation you're addressing? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 05:45 AM Response to Reply #15 |
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thebigidea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 05:54 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. which is what, 1/12975297529759257 of the Pentagon budget for one week? |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 01:32 PM Response to Reply #21 |
54. Adios |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 10:37 AM Response to Reply #15 |
24. I agree, Chavez completely lacks class |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 10:51 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. It would be helpful if you provided some links bearing evidence |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 11:09 AM Response to Reply #27 |
33. the story is just another indication |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 10:55 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Why the HELL should Chavez shut up? |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 11:10 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. I can express my opinion too |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 11:18 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Yes, but Chavez won't shut up because you say so. |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 11:20 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. yes, unfortunately |
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AllieB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 12:46 PM Response to Reply #39 |
49. That would probably change |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 12:56 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. what specifically did you want to hear?? |
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AllieB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #52 |
62. Since I am informed about Venezuela |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 08:26 AM Response to Reply #62 |
72. enlighten us then |
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AllieB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 07:38 PM Response to Reply #72 |
77. The onus is on the person making the baseless accusations |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 03:34 PM Response to Reply #29 |
94. According to this article, we've not been aware of many of the facts, |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 11:03 AM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Chavez calls a spade a spade - i admire him for that |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 11:11 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. I don't believe having friendly relationships with other countries |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 11:16 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Fox is not just friendly; |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 11:21 AM Response to Reply #37 |
40. so that makes him a puppet?? |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 11:36 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Free Trade - to benefit Corporations, at the expense of The People |
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jseankil (604 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 12:33 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Is Clinton a Bush puppy also because he supports the FTAA?? /nm |
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Thtwudbeme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 12:44 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Yes. |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 12:58 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. Yep he is wrong. And I basically |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 01:57 PM Response to Reply #46 |
56. No Clinton is reflecting the same monied interests Bush does. |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 07:59 AM Response to Reply #46 |
71. Kindof, yes; |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 08:31 AM Response to Reply #46 |
73. Wrong is wrong, no matter who it is. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 01:41 PM Response to Reply #43 |
55. It's neither interesting nor surprising. |
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lumpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 12:48 PM Response to Reply #35 |
50. Duh. Bush loses allies because |
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Kralizec (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 11:23 PM Response to Reply #24 |
66. Chavez withdrew his top diplomat, then Mexico did the same. |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 11:00 AM Response to Reply #15 |
31. What did Chavez do that makes you think he's a nutcase? |
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lumpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 12:52 PM Response to Reply #31 |
51. Bush "you're either with us or against us" |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 12:01 PM Response to Reply #15 |
45. Some people detest sarcasm |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 08:37 AM Response to Reply #15 |
74. You must be talking about Herr Busch, not Chavez.... |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 03:31 AM Response to Original message |
18. Mexico to severe Venezuela diplomatic ties |
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TriMetFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 04:47 AM Response to Original message |
19. I have to agree with Chavez. Fox is not only a "puppy" of the U.S. but.... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 05:42 AM Response to Reply #19 |
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readmylips (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
23. Maybe now bush can finally invade Mexico... |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 10:48 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Thanks for the information. Didn't know there has been a Bush/Coke |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 11:12 AM Response to Reply #26 |
36. Bush's coke connection is well established |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 12:42 PM Response to Reply #26 |
47. Lol! |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 09:16 PM Response to Reply #47 |
63. I meant Bush/COLA connection........ |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 10:59 AM Response to Reply #23 |
30. Salinas de Gortari was hardly a peasant. |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 08:49 AM Response to Reply #23 |
75. Nixon was also involved with Coca-Cola...as general counsel or... |
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maximovich (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
42. Chavez Would Make a Very Powerful Ally |
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Voltaire99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 03:31 AM Response to Reply #42 |
70. Very much in US interests to court Chavez |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
44. Familiar comments from a new article.... |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
57. I'm not too familiar with S. American politics |
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hogwyld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
59. Bush 'n Fox better watch it |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 03:45 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. oh come on |
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hogwyld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 03:49 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. True.. |
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Kralizec (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 11:36 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. That is very, very far from Chavez' philosophy. n/t |
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DaDeacon (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 03:29 AM Response to Reply #59 |
87. Get real. |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-14-05 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
65. Go Hugo! Tell it like it is! |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 01:11 AM Response to Original message |
68. This sounds like another spin move from corporate media |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
76. I just posted this new news article in its own thread. It's interesting. |
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rayofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
78. Mexican opinion... |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 09:17 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Maybe you should post a link to the English version of the paper |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 09:26 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. you won't get the dialogue of Ven and Mexican citizens |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 10:17 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. We wouldn't get the dialogue anyway, if we don't speak Spanish. |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 10:29 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. I could read it just fine |
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rayofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 12:54 AM Response to Reply #79 |
85. Sorry,... |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 02:13 AM Response to Reply #85 |
86. The guage of popularity I do know I can believe is the results of the |
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rayofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 12:21 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. My comment... |
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Guy Whitey Corngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 01:17 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. Being that Spanish is my first language. I don't fall in that category. |
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rayofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 05:56 PM Response to Reply #90 |
96. Then.. |
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Guy Whitey Corngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 09:44 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. The one you posted a while back. I'm just sayin' how I saw it. n/t |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 03:03 PM Response to Reply #78 |
92. Mexican opinion, in this article from your paper, runs against Fox |
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rayofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 05:46 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. As I said before... |
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Enhancer (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
80. WAR! WAR! WAR! |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-15-05 09:26 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. how about they play baseball instead?? |
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twaddler01 (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-16-05 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
89. Chavez is a character |
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93. For anyone who missed it earlier in the thread, here's El Universal's |
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