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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:02 PM
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Bush Urges China to Grant More Freedoms
oh please. And why is he talking about this in Japan anyway??

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In remarks sure to rile Beijing, Bush said, "Modern Taiwan is free and democratic and prosperous. By embracing freedom at all levels, Taiwan has delivered prosperity to its people and created a free and democratic Chinese society."

Bush made his remarks in the text of a speech that was to be the cornerstone address of his Asian trip. From Japan, he will continue to South Korea, China and Mongolia.

Trying to solidify America's influence in Asia in the face of China's rising economy and military might, Bush said Beijing's determination to strengthen its economy must be accompanied by more freedoms for its people

"As China reforms its economy," the president said, "its leaders are finding that once the door to freedom is opened even a crack, it cannot be closed. As the people of China grow in prosperity, their demands for political freedom will grow as well."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051115/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_asia

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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:03 PM
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1. Freedom from a Fascist's Lips
That's funny... Freedom to economically enslave the World.
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:06 PM
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"You first." (n/t)
Flem.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:06 PM
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2. Is he TRYING to have a failed overseas trip?
Ahnode gets mobbed, but Shrubya will be pelted with rotten veggies when he arrives in China. He's like the gang(ster) that couldn't shoot straight.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:08 PM
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3. "Here, you can have some of the ones I took away from Americans."
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ktowntennesseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:24 PM
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8. I was thinking the same thing...
just kept getting interrupted when I tried to post it!

"Have some American freedoms! They're only slightly used, and they're through using them!"

(Cue Jon Stewart's evil Bush-laugh: Heh, heh, heh, heh!!!)
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:12 PM
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4. what's with the picture? has any other Pres had his face plastered
(in both senses of the word) on so many places before?!
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:34 PM
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9. It reminds me of the Doonesbury Cartoon back in the eighty's
Edited on Tue Nov-15-05 07:58 PM by leftchick
darn I can't recall the name right now. I need to research this one, it is bugging me.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:13 PM
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5. Does jr. think he is trying out for a high school forensics team?
And this is the "theme of the day"?
This must be part of the "I am bold" act.
What a nitwit.
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:16 PM
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6. Can't he just shut up and smile alot. Spreading freedom ...
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datadiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:19 PM
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7. Yeah right
So much for not pissing anybody off yet on his trip. You just know he couldn't help putting his foot in his mouth. What a dweeb. He won't be satisfied until the whole freaking world blows up. I hope the people who hear his nonsense take it with a grain of salt and consider who said it.
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:56 PM
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10. He is such a dolt!!!!!
The man has gone over the edge...he has to be completly insane..ha!
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 11:04 AM
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11. kick
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 11:04 AM
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12. Bush Urges China to Grant More Freedoms
KYOTO, Japan (AP) -

President Bush prodded China on Wednesday to grant more political freedom to its 1.3 billion people and held up archrival Taiwan as a society that successfully moved from repression to democracy as it opened its economy.

In remarks sure to rile Beijing, Bush suggested China should follow Taiwan's path.

"Modern Taiwan is free and democratic and prosperous. By embracing freedom at all levels, Taiwan has delivered prosperity to its people and created a free and democratic Chinese society," the president said.

more...

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/bw-wh/2005/nov/16/111600450.html
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 11:04 AM
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13. Oh, the irony...
:eyes:
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 11:04 AM
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23. the words staggering and mind-boggling seem appropriate
really.

And this is all reported with a straight face, mind you. No discussion of the unPATRIOTic Act, and how it has shredded our own freedoms, or FREE SPEECH ZONES, and their extremely unconstitutional existence.

Anyone who considers themself to be a serious journalist who does not ask these questions is simply not practicing journalism, but practicing propaganda.

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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 11:04 AM
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14. Maybe I should move to Taiwan because Bush says it's free,
democratic and prosperous. Sounds like this country was at one time. Notice he gives his criticism of China while he's in Japan. He doesn't know the first thing about diplomacy.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 01:15 PM
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35. Yup, the location says a lot about the diplomacy coming out of Jr.
n/t
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 11:04 AM
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15. The POS is on the freedumb train again.
Monkeyboy can't point to the so-called democratic country of Iraq as a model.

Monkeyboy is an absolute failure on so many levels.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 11:04 AM
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16. Oh, here, while you're at it.....
you can take some of ours, too--we really don't use them much. I kind of got rid of that "free assembly and speech" thing a few years ago, and the Patriot Act helped get rid of some of those other pesky ones.......
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 11:04 AM
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17. Meanwhile, Poppy's in China trying to smooth things over.
At least Junior hasn't puked on any Prime Ministers yet.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 11:04 AM
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18. pathetic when dad has to go along
w now needs a chaperone/consigliere.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 11:04 AM
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19. I'd rather have Poppy do the chaperone duties over Darth Cheney
or that completely rigid-thinking Condi Rice. It is a sign of how bad things are that Poppy looks relatively sane.


And of course, you can't overestimate the power of Mommy, who is undoubtedly there as well.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 11:04 AM
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20. Agreed.
But it sure looks bad for Bush - and his handlers had to have known it would but realized it was better for things to not get even worse with China due to his trip (so send Poppy along), than the public relations problems (think of the butt of the jokes this will be for a looong time) here at home. Given how they have, to date, put public relations images at home above all foreign policy interactions... I think it suggests how bad things are getting when W leaves his cocoon.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 11:04 AM
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21. I'm also surprised that the PNACers would let Junior go with Poppy.
I think that they are on opposite sides of the Iraq/Intelligence/Soul of the Pubbie Party divide. Perhaps it is a sign that Cheney and the creepy crawly things with him are losing the battle.

I'd rather have the more reasonable ones running things until we can get in. The Cheney/Junior crowd scares the bejeebus out of me.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 11:04 AM
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24. Then again, we really don't know just how bad Poppy really was/is,...
...because he has hidden his past very well. For instance, we all know now that Poppy was CIA...what we don't know is exactly when he became CIA and exactly where he served. The only position that we definitely know that he held was the position of Director of the CIA.

If even a tenth of what I suspect about Poppy is correct, he would clearly be one of the worst characters in American history...perhaps even worse than George W. Bush has become.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 11:04 AM
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25. I don't like Poppy much,
but I see a real split in the intelligence community now between those who were willing to go along with the stove-piped and carefully edited intelligence leading up to the Iraq War, and those who weren't.

Junior, Goss and Negroponte are attempting a purge, and it is not going down with those who were skeptical about the war.

The CIA is a nasty, nasty organization, just as most intelligence organizations are. Right now, I'm siding with those who are not willing to be whores to the PNAC agenda, but seek to present a fairer picture of what is going on to the best of the inept and corrupt ability.
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ChrisK Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 11:04 AM
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22. Ken Lay to SEC: "Stop those thieves from taking peoples stock money"
Really...Isn't the above statement by Mr Lay to the SEC the same as what the President is saying?

Hand picked audiences at town hall meetings, "freedom zones", attacking anyone that says anything negative about his administration, hiring shills like Armstrong Williams to promote lame programs, making Iraq Americans sword of Damocles..we all know the drill..It all seems funny coming from this guy, like he is in another world all his own..in some way I guess he is, right?

In some sad way I almost feel sorry for him...then I look at the DU latest breaking and see more dead soldiers and snap back to the real world...And folks out there attack Michael Jackson for living in "Neverland"..atleast he can't start wars.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 11:04 AM
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33. LOL! Will wonders never cease!
George W. Bush: Champion of civil liberties! Who knew??:shrug:
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 11:04 AM
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26. Free nations are peaceful nations
and we don't torture. I nominate Bush for hypocrite of the week.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 11:04 AM
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27. The name Jose Padilla mean anything to you, Smirko?
Clean your own damn house first....
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Orrin_73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 11:04 AM
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28. Hypocrite
while at the same time he is curbing freedom in america.
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Gasping4Truth Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 11:04 AM
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29. Finally!
After years of dishonesty and lying about pretty much everything, he manages to screw up his visit to China before it even started by ... telling the truth!

This will become a major diplomatic row. I seriously wonder whether he will be allowed to meet president Hu Jintao. They will probably schedule a Gobi desert safari for Junior during the whole length of his visit. He will never have had such a great time on an official visit: driving a 4WD through the dirt!

It just goes to show once again that his handlers have pulled their hands out of his sock. The world watches on in bewilderment as the puppet tumbles from the stage.

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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 11:04 AM
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30. I wish bu$hit would stop wiping his a** on the word 'freedom'
I'd like to see him censored from ever using it again.
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imported_dem Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 11:04 AM
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31. Like the right to peacefully assemble
witohut having to pay fines or appear in federal court ?
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...of J.Temperance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 11:04 AM
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32. WHEN is the Bush bastard going to START practicing what he preaches?
'Eh? When are you Junior? You fucking hypocrite, you fucking WASTE of human skin.

What's that about throwing stones and glasses houses?

What's that about a pot meeting a kettle?
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 11:04 AM
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34. And in a related development,Tom DeLay urges politicians to be more humble
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darkism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 01:12 AM
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36. Is that a mosaic of the photos of every kid he's murdered?
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 01:12 AM by darkism
Oh jeez, sorry to bump this. Didn't look at the date.
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