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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 11:34 PM
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NYT: Journalists Said to Figure in Strategy in Leak Case
WASHINGTON, Nov. 15 - Lawyers for I. Lewis Libby Jr., the former White House official indicted on perjury charges, plan to seek testimony from journalists beyond those cited in the indictment and will probably challenge government agreements limiting their grand jury testimony, people involved in the case said Tuesday.

"That's clearly going to be part of the strategy - to get access to all the relevant records and determine what did the media really know," said a lawyer close to the defense who spoke on condition of anonymity.

At Mr. Libby's arraignment this month, his lawyers alluded to using a First Amendment defense in fighting the charges, but they have declined to say what that strategy might entail.

In interviews, lawyers close to the case made clear that the defense team plans to pursue aggressively access to reporters' notes beyond the material cited in the indictment and plans to go to the trial judge, Reggie B. Walton of United States District Court, to compel disclosure as one of their first steps.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/16/politics/16libby.html?hp&ex=1132117200&en=3e1290c128b9b6d7&ei=5094&partner=homepage
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 11:38 PM
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1. more
"The prospect of another legal battle over access to reporters' records "could be worse for the media" than the Miller showdown, said Lucy Dalglish, head of the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press. "You now have a situation where you have a government investigation hung completely on testimony from journalists, with journalists turned into witnesses, and that is a scary notion."

Ms. Dalglish said that unlike the special prosecutor, Patrick J. Fitzgerald, who was restricted partly by Justice Department regulations on subpoenaing reporters' notes, Mr. Libby's defense team will not be bound by those same rules.

"This is a very unsettling case, and it could take years in the courts to resolve," she said.
Mr. Fitzgerald, in securing the cooperation and testimony of some journalists, agreed to limit the scope of his questioning to conversations with certain sources and topics.

But the defense is likely to challenge the limited nature of those interrogations and seek to explore a range of other topics about the reporters' dealings with White House officials, the substances of their conversations and the offers of confidentiality offered to sources, the people involved in the case said. "
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 11:42 PM
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3. The government/media marriage, exposed.
It's about time.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 11:38 PM
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2. In other words, preserve the 1st = no fair trial for Libby
So dismiss all charges.
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 11:51 PM
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4. or let this drag on until it is no longer possible to
indict anyone else or start any other investigations.
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 11:58 PM
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5. Libby's strategy is simple...
pick a fight that will tie up the case in court until Bush leaves office and pardons Libby on the way out.

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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 11:59 PM
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6. This explains the WP article regarding Bob Woodward.
Bob is part of the defense strategy team - what an a-hole.
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:13 AM
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7. Yep.
The strategy is looking pretty clear now.

But what about the journalists who don't play? It sounds like Pincus for one is not going along.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:13 AM
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8. The neocon defense strategy is certainly beginning to emerge:
Edited on Wed Nov-16-05 12:14 AM by loudsue
They've got ALL the legal help they'll ever need from the right-wing think tanks and legal associations (The Federalist Society), and ALL the money in the world to pay for them from Cheney's Halliburton ill-gotten gains, the oil companies, and megazillionaires. They already have control of the mainstream media ORGANIZATIONS, and now they're going to be bringing in all of the REPORTERS who work for those republican ass-kissing organizations; circling the wagons to protect their evil minions.

They're going to try to bring down the entire constitution, starting with the First Amendment, over this whole charade of theirs -- ALL so the neocons could out a covert agency organization that STOPPED the neocons from planting WMDs in Iraq.

The republicans have become a pox on our nation and the world. They are all Hitlers within our borders, and protected by our government because they CONTROL our government.

Evil, evil bastards. If the United States EVER needed a miracle, we need one now.

:kick::kick::kick:
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:36 AM
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9. Go ahead Scooter!!!
Make our day!! When the WH manipulation of journalists comes to light we'll have yet another reason for impeachment.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:37 AM
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10. Good, drag it out
Bring the lapdog media into it too. Let the people see how sordid the Bush/media connection is.
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rawstory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:16 AM
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11. Libby lawyers to seek 'First Amendment' defense
Lawyers for I. Lewis Libby Jr., the former White House official indicted on perjury charges, plan to seek testimony from journalists beyond those cited in the indictment and will probably challenge government agreements limiting their grand jury testimony, people involved in the case tell the NEW YORK TIMES for Wednesday page ones, RAW STORY has learned... Excerpts.

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"That's clearly going to be part of the strategy -- to get access to all the relevant records and determine what did the media really know," said a lawyer close to the defense who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

In interviews, lawyers close to the case made clear that the defense team planned to aggressively pursue access to reporters' notes beyond the material cited in the indictment and planned to go to U.S. District Judge Reggie B. Walton to compel disclosure as one of their first steps.

Defense lawyers plan to seek notes not only from the three reporters cited in the indictment -- Tim Russert of NBC News, Matt Cooper of Time Magazine, and Judith Miller, formerly of The New York Times -- but also from other journalists who have been tied to the case.

Chief among those is Robert D. Novak, who first disclosed in a column in July 2003 that Valerie Plame worked for the CIA.

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Libby_lawyers_to_seek_notes_from_1115.html
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:16 AM
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12. and murderer cLaims 2nd amendment as defense in triaL
i await the RS haters any moment now. :popcorn:
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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:16 AM
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13. Ruh Roh, there are going to be some "journalists"
(known here as "media whores") who are not going to get very much sleep.


:nopity:
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:16 AM
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14. A Republican suddenly says he cares about the 'First Amendment'?
Now you know he's lying.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:16 AM
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15. NYT: (more) Journalists Said to Figure in (Libby) Strategy in Leak Case
Journalists Said to Figure in Strategy in Leak Case
By ERIC LICHTBLAU
Published: November 16, 2005


WASHINGTON, Nov. 15 - Lawyers for I. Lewis Libby Jr., the former White House official indicted on perjury charges, plan to seek testimony from journalists beyond those cited in the indictment and will probably challenge government agreements limiting their grand jury testimony, people involved in the case said Tuesday.

"That's clearly going to be part of the strategy - to get access to all the relevant records and determine what did the media really know," said a lawyer close to the defense who spoke on condition of anonymity.

At Mr. Libby's arraignment this month, his lawyers alluded to using a First Amendment defense in fighting the charges, but they have declined to say what that strategy might entail.

In interviews, lawyers close to the case made clear that the defense team plans to pursue aggressively access to reporters' notes beyond the material cited in the indictment and plans to go to the trial judge, Reggie B. Walton of United States District Court, to compel disclosure as one of their first steps.

Defense lawyers plan to seek notes not only from the three reporters cited in the indictment - Tim Russert of NBC News, Matt Cooper of Time Magazine and Judith Miller, formerly of The New York Times - but also from other journalists who have been tied to the case.

Chief among those is Robert D. Novak...


http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/16/national/16libby.html
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:16 AM
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16. Please drag this out.
Please.
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:17 AM
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24. Have no fear--in this case
time is one of the defense's strongest weapons.
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:16 AM
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17. Novak? Did someone say Novak?
:popcorn:
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:16 AM
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18. I think I heard someone wisper...Novack.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:16 AM
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19. OK I'm tired tonight
Please clue me in. What does the First Amendment rights (presumably of the journalists) have to do with whether Libby perjured himself? The perjury charge is very limited. It doesn't go to what journalists knew and when other than whether he told certain people certain things at certain times. I'm sure it's just me, but I don't see the connection at all. Please explain this if you understand. I'm sure I'm just dense on this one.
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:16 AM
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22. I'm with you.
Looks like a delaying tactic to me. Bunches of subpoenas, reporters will fight them, appeals, yada yada.
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jrthin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:17 AM
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25. Like Judith Miller, they are
hoping that the journalists will do the job for them: journalists will appeal up to the Supremes against revealing their "full" notes. The Supreme Court, which is now stacked, will rule that these journalists will not have to reveal their notes. In the end, no notes, no case. Morale, journalists will carry the water for Libby.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:16 AM
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20. Thats such a desperate and not too bright move!!!
Libby is sooo convicted!!!
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:16 AM
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21. Uh, why not torture the bastid? He's a terraist!
:sarcasm:
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DC Law Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 04:17 AM
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23. ???
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 03:05 PM
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27. Hi DC Law!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 09:42 AM
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26. I couldn't find the clause in1st Ammendment that says you can LIE to Grand
Jury. Maybe someone could point that clause out for me....:shrug:
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