Pincus: Woodward 'Asked Me to Keep Him Out' of Plame Reporting

90% of the media has been complicit in LYING to the American people in their quest to keep Bush propped up for over 5 years now.

These people seem to have NO integrity left. I believe these are some of the darkest days in journalism.

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Creepy

so sad :-(

attributed to Peter Jennings, that just made me sick. He was quoted as saying (paraphrasing) that "their job is not to report the news; their job was to shape what the viewer heard".

BTW, did you read about Woodward's own intell background ? Operation Mockingbird needs more looking into. Maybe by Bernstein >

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was Woodward a golf caddy in high school? Source him as "former caddy."

this is getting mighty interesting.

hired to muddy the waters for Libby. How far the mighty journalist has fallen. Not only do we have theives and liars in the administration but also in the media. The Republican coffers must contain gazillions of money to pay off so many. Woodward sold his soul long ago.

Rove (and/or Cheney) can't use the regular network right now, so they go to the double secret backup plan.

to keep the whole crooked deal going.

I suspect that the missing $9B is stashed somewhere for uses like this - paying off minions and agents of the party.

Padding the (neo-)aristocratic trust fund.

They said Libby's lawyer came out and claimed this totally vindicates Scooty poot. I don't see how since his charges are perjury and obstruction.

His attorney was blowing smoke today. Libby's been nailed for lying. Fitzgerald said Libby was the first KNOWN official to pass Plame's identity to reporters. The fact that someone else was passing the info along too speaks of conspiracy, perhaps, but It doesn't clear Libby of anything.

Libby talked to Miller.
Hadley talked to Woodward.
Somebody talked to Rove.

Who's on first?

The battle now (for them), I suspect, is to keep anybody from getting charged with anything worse than lying/perjury. If it can't be proven who leaked first, it will be tough to indict for anything worse than that. They may even tolerate obstruction, but I feel like they are trying to avoid conspiracy and espionage act charges.

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I don't think it matters too much who leaked first. Each of them leaked classified information which was a violation of their NDA's whether they did it accidentally, maliciously or just by verifying what a reporter asked.

They each leaked the information casually, as if revealing the identity of a cia employee was no big deal. They did this to avoid the intent provisions of the Intelligence Identity Protection Act.

These guys are malevolent but not dumb.

books while being an Assistant Managing Editor at WaPo. How often does he intervine and maybe sidetrack a reporter who might be onto something he,himself, wants to use later in a book?

What about his cozy relationship to Bushies. Not that Ben Bradlee didn't have an "insider" view of the Kennedy Administration...but it explains much about our two supposedly "Papers of Record" (NYT's and WaPo) and what they really report to us out here in the peasant world.

him out of any Plame reporting which Pincus did, Woodward had NO problem trying to finger bring Pincus into this at an earlier time line, inaccurately, when on the hot seat himself. Re-affirms to me, not that further affirmation is needed, that Woodward is a slime ball of the highest order.

administration.

He has no where left to go. Wonder if he can team up with Judith Miller in a new career move?

They can compete against Regis and Kelly in the morning slot. Bob and Judy are not journalists anyway, so they might as well turn into the entertainers they so desperately wanted to be.

Woodward is embedded in the B*sh misadministration. I think he got so addicted to power and fame during the Watergate era that he decided to become a behind-the-scenes power player at the Washington Post. He is a disgrace to journalism.

a shill to the max. He did it for watergate and he's doing it now.

Woodward has 5 years as a Navy intel officer and was a briefer for Al Haig. Woodward has been in the loop for decades spewing disinformation. He was part of the Pentagon cabal that screwed Nixon over Vietnam.

You can forget 'Beyond a reasonable doubt' now.

Will the real Bob Woodward please stand up ?

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from the time he was a pentagon briefer while in the navy. That sounds innocuous but the briefers are actually a very elite corps of junior officers who digest ultra top secret raw intelligence and brief top officials - including in Woodward's case, General Alexander Haig and Joint Chiefs Admiral Moorer. Woodward lied about knowing Haig before Watergate and Adm. Moorer blew the lid off his denials about being so deeply embedded in the USG intelligence loop. To this day Woodward yells at you if you ask him about it.

Because you have to ask yourself, why, on a newspaper with 500 crack staff reporters, was the Watergate story fed to a rookie Woodward? The lowest guy on the totem pole maybe, but perhaps the one with the best intelligence connections.

Check out SILENT COUP by Colodny and Gitlin, and the best book on Watergate, SECRET AGENDA by Jim Hougan, for the nitty gritty on Woodward and a lot of other interesting things.

Woodward has been dirty for a long, long time - the bio he did from secret interviews with dying Bill Casey was virtually laughed off the bookstore shelves and provoked angry denials from casey's family that the "interviews" ever took place. But somehow Woodward survived as a credible journalist.

maybe that's because he's been such a useful media whore for government leakers - like the present case. Looks like Woodward was the first go-to guy to blow VPW's identity, but he backed off because he knows the rules of the intelligence game very, very well.

Time to take him down for keeps.

peace - but never give up the struggle

che

Thanks for expanding the data.

reading the books mentioned previously, SILENT COUP and SECRET AGENDA, you might well come away with the idea that Watergate was in fact a CIA coup d'etat to get rid of Richard Nixon, who was setting up his own independent intelligence network outside of CIA control in the so-called White House plumbers unit.

The CIA doesn't like things like that. They like to control all the info, and all the intelligence-gathering.

Watergate's central question - the reason for the burglary itself - has never been satisfactorily explained, and in fact is rarely even asked, despite hours of blather on Watergate anniversaries by panels of pundits including Bob Woodward, who seems never to have troubled himself to look at the crime's central issue. Guess it just never crossed his mind.

But the notion of a roomful a CIA agents who were just too inept, too stupid, kept putting tape back on the door of the office after a guard kindly removed it without calling the cops - this Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight gets a little hard to swallow when you look at the Watergate participants, from E. Howard Hunt on down. The most mysterious and perhaps most important of these, it turns out (according to Hougan) is shadowy James McCord, who resurrected the dead Watergate burglary case with a letter to judge John Sirica that blew the lid off everything. McCord, it wasn't known at the time, was actually himself a very high CIA operative, perhaps as high as #2 in the DO (Directorate of Operations), responsible for keeping all physical CIA assets around the world safe from harm.

Too big a fish to get caught in any normal burglary, to be sure. But it was he who re-taped the doors ensuring that the burglars would be captured.

McCord, it should be noted, has refused in all the years since to be interviewed about his role in the burglary as far as I know (though he did appear on one panel on CSPN).

So if Watergate was a CIA coup d'etat, what does that make Woodward's role in it?

Woodward made the story public, the journalistic triumph of the decade and even spinning off a Hollywood movie extolling its heroic reporters. Woodward accomplished this we now know with the help of Deep Throat Mark Felt whom Woodward met when he was a Navy briefer, in the White House, years before Watergate. If the CIA did create a coup against Nixon, Woodward's activities fit the agenda perfectly, nailing Richard Nixon to the cross for a "bungled" CIA robbery whose rationale could only be described as very hard to explain.

Woodward's historical role in Watergate has yet to be fully described, but we can hope that his cloak of journalist invulnerability is being stripped away, even at this late date.

If what the Watergate record indicates is true, it could be that Woodward is the CIA's most important asset and mouthpiece in the media, and in his published works. Whatever the case, it's time to rip away the "veil" that's protected him for so long.

peace, but never give up the struggle -

che

the political intelligence works. Here and everywhere. This is how the cogs turn, deep under a world of images and spectacular representations. This is also how democracy increasingly becomes an idea, separated, estranged in fact, from everyday life.

'Poppy' Bush gets to be director of the CIA. Could there be a connection? The Shadow knows.

and traveled in the same circles as Woodward. He ought to be scrutinized too.

I think I read about this with regards to Watergate, that it is not the burglary that is the crime-- but the crime is the cover-up.

Cover-up--When, Where, How, Whom, Why?

something" Thats a pile of crap!!! I think he did come by after I had written about being called and said I wasn't the only one who would be called,"

Pincus better watchout here!!!

His friend is really ready to put him in the fire with him...

This is all after the indictment!!!

This is questional testimony!!!

Cool.

I love Patrick.

and the American people ask some simple questions. Why? Why did you agree to that?

to commit a felony. They knew what they were doing was wrong and they just kept doing it anyway.
IMPEACH GEORGE BUSH AND SEND THEM ALL TO THE HAGUE

Bob Woodward is supposed to be a journalist; as such, he's supposed to keep copious notes and know to whom he said what. Of course, in the most important instances, it's all very foggy.

Here is a man who's wrongly been hailed as a hero of democracy for three decades now. He's showing himself to be a toady to power and an apologist for the monied elite. His reputation is history, and he deserves to be dragged through the mud.

His blank stare and slack-jawed propriety shows him to be a mediocre intellect and a propagandist. He will live to regret all of this, because the backlash is already upon him.

because he deserves to have his credibility shredded.

All these years, playing the hero, the white knight ... slaying dragons.

We just WANT to believe, don't we?

In your pic of the good Senator, is he gesturing that he is going to squeeze somebody's balls until their eyes bleed? Just a question that I want answered.

that's why I like it so much. I enjoy the expressions on Durbin and Schummers face :-)

and turns tail after he has been threatened/talked to/bribed/whatever

I am getting quite tired of this rerun. It become predictable, and more and more like sitting through a screening of the Rocky Horror Picture Show back in the day.