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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:25 PM
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Prototype $100 laptop unveiled
Hand-cranked laptop intended for schoolchildren in developing countries

By John Blau, IDG News Service
November 17, 2005

Even if the prototype $100 laptop computer unveiled by Nicholas Negroponte late Wednesday in Tunis had a couple of hiccups, the MIT Media Lab chairman was visibly excited about the prospect of placing the device in the hands of millions of schoolchildren around the globe.

A slightly embarrassed Kofi Annan, general secretary of the United Nations, twisted off the computer's crank handle at the unveiling event, and the screen locked as Negroponte later tried to demonstrate the display. But after a few tweaks here and there, everything worked.

The hand-cranked laptop, shown for the first time at the U.N.-sponsored World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS), operates at 500MHz, or about half the speed of commercial laptops. It features a low-power display that can be switched from color to black and white to allow viewing in bright sunlight. Many children in developing countries have school outside, Negroponte said.

The machine can be folded in different ways to serve as a computer, electronic book or media player. "We designed the device to perform many roles," said Negroponte, who also heads the One Laptop Per Child nonprofit group. "Learning should be seamless."
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http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/11/17/HN$100laptop_1.html?source=NLC-TB2005-11-17
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KatieB Donating Member (431 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:29 PM
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1. Hopefully he'll sell these in rural America as well...
where electricity is becoming excessively expensive and computers on things you play on only at school.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:34 PM
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3. Inner City schools too. Where only one computer is bought per class and
only teachers are allowed to use them.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:31 PM
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2. I can't decide if this is a great thing, or...
if maybe we should be making sure children aren't starving to death/dying from diarrhea/getting malaria first.

Is this just a way to penetrate an untapped market, or will it really work and improve the lives of children?

:shrug:

Anyway, the handcrank aspect is really cool.
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:40 PM
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5. If you've got wireless access...
...and in the third world, there's more cellular than twisted-pair -- you've got all the textbooks you could want, right there, so long as there's one Adobe version on a hard drive at the Ministry of Education.

The potential savings for secondary students are enormous.
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 03:03 AM
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42. You also then have access to limitless amounts of information - read on
Computers have brought about a new dawn in civilization - free information. Just think about what computers and internet access have brought:

1. Access to education about literally anything you want to know
2. Erosion of information inequities (stock market info, consumer product reviews, price information, mortgage rates, etc.)
3. Political ideas and information - think of all the blogs now serving up REAL news and their impact on corporate news reporting
4. Easy access to online interpreters, health information, scientific info, etc.

Knowledge is power, and when you make that knowledge availablet o everyone, it levels the playing field.
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AirAmFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:47 PM
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6. Shouldn't better communication help improve public health too?
Other groups of philanthropists (for example, the Bill Gates Foundation) have made Third World public health their top priority. I can't imagine that they would ignore such a brilliant new way to reach isolated people and educate them about disease prevention and treatment.
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UncleSepp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:51 PM
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8. Depends what the communities themselves want
I think that the ultimate decision for what is needed most depends on the people themselves. If communities say "We want a sewer system", then we ought to help them get a sewer system. If they say "We want Internet access for our schools", then we ought to help them get that.

That being said, the laptops may be an efficient investment. The laptops may help kids get access to information and education that they would not otherwise have. It is cheaper to send a $100 laptop per kid and then make textbooks and educational materials available in the form of a document that can be read on the laptop than it would be to send many books and workbooks. Also, specialized education can be provided using the 'net and the laptops to many kids in many schools instead of to only the kids in the school where the teacher is physically present.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:23 PM
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12. Since most low income kids don't have computer access at home
and since they will need to be computer literate to survive in their adult world, this definitely benefits them.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 03:54 PM
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26. Well, I certainly didn't have access to computers as a child
(since they weren't invented) and I do okay! ;-)

Maybe I'm just feeling cranky, but I get tired of the Rah, rah, computers will save the world, hand the kid a laptop and she's got a worthwhile job for life stuff. Obviously, I love the internet. But I think it's more important that little kids learn to read, do math, and spend face time with adults and peers than type and stare at a screen.

But of course, if the rich kids have computers, the poor should have them too. So, okay. No more bitchin from me.

:toast: to the inventor of the hand crank laptop.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:28 PM
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34. Our job as educators is to prepare kids for life as independent adults
and there is NO job out there that doesn't utilize computers or computerized technology. When you and I were in school, computers were not so fully integrated into the world our teachers were preparing us for. So of course we weren't exposed to computers.

Kids CAN learn to read, write and compute by using a computer. There are endless possibilities.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 12:16 PM
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36. Okay, this is my last comment on the subject.
Computers ain't hard to use. The idea that a kid must be exposed from birth to a machine in order to know how to use it is nonsense. It took my grandmother about 45 minutes to learn to navigate the Internet.

When I was in high school, I learned how to program computers using Basic. Fat lot of good that was! And in twenty years, who knows what computer technology is going to be like. I don't object to teaching kids to use a computer, but it's not that important. I'd rather my kid learn a foreign language.

And I'll believe that a kid can learn to read more quickly from a screen than from a piece of paper when I actually see that happen.

My youngest son is learning to read right now, and the best thing for him is sitting down and actually forming the letters with a crayon or pencil himself.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 06:31 PM
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39. Look at it this way
If schools had no computers, then the only kids who are exposed to computers would be the ones whose parents can afford to buy them. So this would be one more part of our culture that low income kids would be deprived of. I have a problem with that.

I see first hand how kids who have no access to computers at home learn to use them at school. Sure it might be easy enough, but they are still behind their peers who have been computer literate since they were toddlers.
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:36 PM
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4. You know, Nicholas Negroponte is John's brother.
so I am just skeptical. The brothers could be very different, and probably are, but I just wonder what the king of death squads thinks about this level of access.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 04:11 AM
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44. Nicholas is FAR different from John
I know several people who know Nicholas, and want me to meet him, too. Not that I have a whole lot to offer, but I've worked with them on some of their "wacky" projects that caught Nicholas' eye. They have frequently made mention of the man's charitability and altruism, two qualities hated by the Right.

Bob Bennett, Bill's brother, is likewise a humane guy.

Sometimes things work out like that.

On the other hand: David and Rush Limbaugh. Each right-wing ratbags.

So sometimes they don't.

--p!
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:50 PM
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7. can it take a fluid spill...?
If not, it's worthless in the target application, IMO.
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 10:45 AM
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22. as i recall it has a sealed keyboard to keep out dust and other things.
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AirAmFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:58 PM
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9. Is this a case of life imitating art? A $100 computer for the 3rd World
was the central plot theme for a 2002 movie, "The First $20 Million is Always the Hardest"--see http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0280674 .
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 04:06 AM
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43. It's been a kind of Holy Grail for at least 10 years
That's why it's getting so much attention now.

The next step is a $10 computer for the poor, and a $100 computer for the affluent. That would make computing truly ubiquitous, because a lot of those cheap computers could be given away for tax breaks and not break the bank.

I "predict" that day will be here in about five more years.

--p!
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 08:29 PM
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10. Next up: The foot-cranked automobile.
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:05 AM
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19. Like these:
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 09:08 AM by happyslug
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:09 PM
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11. cool
equal access to information -- keynote of the Aquarian Age, coming (eventually) to a planet near you.
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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:27 PM
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13. Gutenberg, move over
Your revolution is about to be bested.
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 11:46 PM
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14. If I could buy one of these I'd pay $400 to get two
That way someone in a third world country (like us in five years) can get two computer free.

That's the way these should be marketed. If you live in an internetted tech savy industrialized country the price is double.

(and that's still a good deal since a 500mhz gateway with a dead battery is $250 on Craigslist)

That way for every computer an american has, someone somewhere else will get one too.

Hell, I will drive to pickup mine at MIT in person just to save them a buck.
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 10:52 AM
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23. Also $200 is cheaper than ...
the Solar power supply that i was thinking of getting for my old 300mhz thinkpad to take it outside.

Think about it.

Alternatives to laptop batteries (toxic+expensive+don't last = Corporate money and environmental damage) have been around for years and so far this is the only time I have learned about someone using them to power laptops (besides a few hikers with sloar charge grids).

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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 01:08 AM
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15. Very cool! open-source code, foldable, and multi-use -- I want one
Now THIS will be revolutionary.

Hekate
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 01:22 AM
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16. I want that hand-crank power supply.
What an awesome idea!

Some of you readers out there remember cars that had to be cranked to start them. Bet you never thought cranking up a computer would be considered an innovation! Ain't the future cool?
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 07:25 AM
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17. I have a crank radio.
and i just love it. It was supposed to be in my emergency kit but i ended up buying two so I could use it always
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:01 AM
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18. In the early 1960s My Father had a Tractor with a Crank Start
The crank was the back up to the electric starter, but if you had not used the tractor all winter the battery was generally dead and he had to use the crank. I show him start the tractor once or Twice with the crank (I was not even in School then) but what I remember it was amazing the technique of starting with a crank.

Anyway, motor cranks were NOT just cranked, but more of a quick flip. The flip provided enough power to run the starter. In some of the old silent movies this "flip" often became part comic routine, it was so common and a technique one had to learn (and only usable on smaller engines, once you get into engines the size of small automotive engines today you had to go to electric starters). The closest thing today is the pull starters on lawn mowers, to start the lawn mowers it is more of a quick tug than a pull. It is the speed over a short time period that provides the power needed to start the engine. Not like the crank on a crank operated flashlight or radio, which needs a constant flow of power NOT just a quick short burst of electric power as in a Lawn Mower engine or the very small engines of the early days of the Automobile.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:17 AM
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20. The crank will crack...
Anything sold en masse as cheap and inexpensive have more problems...

My $10 heating blanket with the automatic-off switch itself has the switch mechanism regularly overheating. :wtf:

And don't they mean the World Summit on the Uninformed Society (WUSS)?
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 10:41 AM
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21. I would buy one for $200, if it meant that a kid
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 10:41 AM by brainshrub
in a poor country could get a free computer.
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 02:30 AM
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41. Me too!
I know a lot of adults who could use these as well. In the US,too!
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 02:02 PM
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24. If successful, this would be another nail in Windows coffin.


With many european countries going to linux, which is a unix derivative, and over a million windows users in this country moving to OS X in the last nine months, the moisture on Bill's forehead is sweat.

Consider the fack that longhorn won't even work on most PCs out there, they are not nearly powerfull enough. And next year OS X will work on the same architecture as windows, with Apple moving to Intel processors, that will mean you can use any OS on the same computer. Why would anyone choose Longhorn, when the cheaper, better and faster alternatives are available?
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 02:53 PM
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25. Jobs almost got OS X on this thing.
Steve Jobs offered free copies of OS X, but the designers were committed to open source. So they elected to go with a version of Red Hat instead.

It was a nice offer, but the reason why MIT didn't go with it is pretty obvious: there isn't going to be any technical support for these things outside of the open source community. Putting proprietary software into the mix will hinder, rather than help.

http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=13136&Page=1&pagePos=2

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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 04:33 PM
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27. Photo of $100 laptop
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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 04:35 PM
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28. Large Photo
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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 04:36 PM
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29. Another view...
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 07:16 PM
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32. It looks like a fisher price toy...
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 07:47 PM
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33. And that's bad how?
About the only way to break a Fisher-Price toy is with a three-pound sledgehammer, and that doesn't always work.

Building a computer out of that same plastic would be a Good Thing.
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AirAmFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 06:54 PM
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30. ABC World News Tonight just made this laptop its
"Person of the Week"!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 04:54 AM
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lovelaureng Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 07:13 PM
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31. This is nothing short of brilliance,
pure genius. I hope this will be the start of great things for those developing countries. It would be good for the people there to have a better quality of life than what they are accustomed to.
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 09:47 PM
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35. The lime green case is a bit arresting, but kid friendly
the keyboard looks a bit small. But, hey, 500MHz is faster than the Thinkpad 600E (366MHz) I use at work. Cool.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 03:52 PM
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37. Needs USB 2.0, Firewire 800, & Bluetooth. Plus PCI slots as well as..
Edited on Sat Nov-19-05 03:53 PM by Mika
Just kidding.


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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 08:27 PM
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40. From the pictures above...
It looks like it has at least two USB ports, that ain't bad, especially for the price.
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Orrin_73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-05 04:42 PM
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38. That's great news
Its truly terrific, millions of kids in the developing world will make their entry in the cyberage.

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