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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:07 PM
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Pentagon agrees to probe Feith's role in Iraq intel
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Pentagon's inspector general has agreed to review the prewar intelligence activities of former U.S. defense undersecretary Douglas Feith, a main architect of the Iraq war, congressional officials said on Thursday.

News of the Defense Department probe comes at a time of bitter political debate over whether President George W. Bush misled the American people with prewar intelligence. The increasingly biter dispute has pitted the president and his top advisers against lawmakers including some from Bush's own Republican Party.

Democrats have accused Feith of manipulating information from sources including discredited Iraqi politician Ahmad Chalabi to suggest links between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network, which masterminded the September 11, 2001, attacks.

Bush and other top administration officials cited alleged ties between Iraq and al Qaeda as a justification for military action. But the September 11 commission later reported that no collaborative relationship existed between the two.

Reuters
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:12 PM
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1. Will this be a fair investigation?
I know all the IGs I've ever known about are pretty much on the up and up. I don't know how much that's changed since Rumsfeld has been in charge.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:41 PM
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4. Not if Dumbsfailed has anything to say about it.
But he won't be able to do much unless Congress allows him to. Congress has oversight power and can do whatever it wants to, collectively, and there are signs that fear is becoming a motivating factor in their thinking. The public is becoming pissed off, finally.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:18 PM
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2. BWAHAHA! He is so hated and so dumb. A general once said of
him that if our country was invaded and things were overrun and he had one shot, he would save it for Feith. No one is going to stand up for him.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 03:56 PM
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31. then I'll bet he won't take the fall
for them. Which means there will be more confessions and more people indicted and more of the vermin will be extracted from our society. :popcorn:
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:22 PM
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3. Here's the flowchart
http://foi.missouri.edu/polinfoprop/liefactory.html

excerpt:

Until now, the story of how the Bush administration produced its wildly exaggerated estimates of the threat posed by Iraq has never been revealed in full. But, for the first time, a detailed investigation by Mother Jones, based on dozens of interviews—some on the record, some with officials who insisted on anonymity—exposes the workings of a secret Pentagon intelligence unit and of the Defense Department's war-planning task force, the Office of Special Plans. It's the story of a close-knit team of ideologues who spent a decade or more hammering out plans for an attack on Iraq and who used the events of September 11, 2001, to set it into motion.

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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 08:33 AM
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17. Defense Policy Board Members bios
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 10:18 AM
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18. Richard Perle brought Feith into the loop
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 10:18 AM by formercia
Feith was Perle's protege and business partner. They started an investment group that put money into defense related companies that stood to make money on the war. Perle is also a member of the Knights of Malta which ties him in to the European Poobah Mafia that pushed for this 'Crusade' all along.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 02:04 PM
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21. This ought to raise some eyebrows
For a little background, a trireme is a type of oared galley that was used by the Knights of Malta in their last great naval engagement with the Turkish fleet.
Trireme Partners was the investment operation set up by Feith and Perle.



http://home.earthlink.net/~platter/neo-conservatism/perle.html


Pentagon adviser Richard N. Perle coauthored an opinion piece this summer praising a Pentagon plan to lease tanker aircraft -- which had the potential to steer billions of dollars to Boeing Co. -- 16 months after Boeing committed to invest $20 million with a venture capital firm where Perle was a principal.
"It takes a special government green-eyeshade mentality to miss the urgency of the tanker requirement," Perle and a coauthor wrote in the Aug. 14 article in the Wall Street Journal. The piece did not mention Boeing by name or Perle's firm -- Trireme Partners -- and its business relationship with the giant defense contractor.
<...>
Perle also serves on the board of directors of Hollinger International Inc., the media company whose chief executive, Conrad Black, resigned last month after disclosures that he and other executives collected millions of dollars payments the company's audit committee determined were unauthorized.
Hollinger disclosed last month that it has invested $2.5 million in Trireme Associates. A special committee of Hollinger's board is examining that investment and others involving company insiders, a source close to Hollinger said yesterday.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 07:06 PM
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23. bump
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 12:26 PM
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25. Perle is Jewish, right? Knights of Malta : Catholic, right?
Do you have a link that shows Perle is member of this Catholic group. What is European Poobah Mafia?
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 01:09 PM
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27. affiliations
Edited on Sun Nov-20-05 01:13 PM by formercia
There are many variants of the Knights of Malta. Some are Catholic, some are Protestant. All claim to be decendant of the Knights Templar and the Crusaders. One thing they have in common is that the members are usually wealthy and well connected politically. It used to be that catholics were forbidden to become members of the freemasons but that has changed in the last several decades and you will find people who belong to organizations that were deadly enemies at one time, I refer to these organizations collectively as the Poobah Mafia, a loosly connected group of people and fraternal organizations that have been engaging in organized crime activites for many generations. They even have connections to the Italian Mafia but operate at a social level well apart from the common street thugs commoly associated with the Sicilian mafia.The late Joe Bonanno was a member of the Knights of Malta and the Mafia. He was considered to be untouchable because of his connections to the elite, nobody dared to whack him although there were attempts that failed for some reason, and he died of natural causes.
http://glasgowcrew.tripod.com/bonanno.html

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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 01:20 PM
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28. I'm wondering about Perle joining this particular organization
I doubt if there are even many Protestants in its offshoots.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 01:29 PM
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29. here's a good example of the Protestant version of the Knights of Malta
http://www2.prestel.co.uk/church/sjcross/anc01.htm

I agree that what most people think of as the Knights of Malta as being a Catholic organization and the traditional enemy of the Knights Templar, but there are many groups that lay claim to be 'the' official group.
I don't know how Perle became associated.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 03:01 PM
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30. what you need to look at
Edited on Sun Nov-20-05 03:03 PM by formercia
is the connection between Trireme Partners, what Fizgerald is persuing vs Hollinger and the connections between Perle, Feith and others to Trireme Partners and how this web of criminal activity is all interconnected to the Pentagon and the promoting of the war on Iraq.

http://home.earthlink.net/~platter/neo-conservatism/perle.html

Read this link and see how many times Trireme Partners comes up and the connection to the Fitzgerald investigation.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 09:54 PM
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5. This will stall the Senate Select Cmte's investigation by One Year
according to Rockefeller. DAMN

The Pentagon policing the Pentagon. DAMN
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:49 PM
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6. umm...
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:54 PM
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8. why?
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 11:00 PM
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9. Here's what he said-
However, Democr, , ) of West Virginia, opposed Roberts‘ action and warned the move could delay the Senate investigation of Feith‘s office by up to a year.

The Senate committee, which produced a scathing report on U.S. prewar intelligence in July 2004, is due to examine the Office of Special Plans as part of a second-phase probe into how Bush administration officials used intelligence on Iraq while making their case for war.

"In no way does the vice chairman believe the IG‘s investigation should be a substitute for the committee‘s work. The committee agreed to look at this and it needs to fulfill

She said Rockefeller was not aware of Roberts‘ request to the inspector general until after the letter had been sent.

http://www.heraldnewsdaily.com/stories/news-0097247.html

It was this DU thread, but the link there now goes to the updated story-

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1911902#top

The Hill also covered this aspect of the story.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 11:33 PM
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10. That is a serious concern. Thank you for pointing it out. nt
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 10:53 PM
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7. they are looking to see if Feith bypassed the CIA-!!


......The inspector general's office informed the Senate on October 19 that it would undertake a review after receiving separate requests from the Republican chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and the ranking Democrat on the Senate Committee on Armed Services, officials said.

Congressional officials expect the review to look at whether Feith and his staff bypassed the CIA by giving the White House uncorroborated intelligence that sought to make a case for war in the months leading up to the 2003 Iraq invasion.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 12:30 PM
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26. Cheney parked his rear end at the CIA for days in the runup to
the war, Tenet's "slam dunk" comment,etc., there is plenty of blame to go around in the Bush administration. When Tenet allowed the CIA to be used as it was, he should have spoken out and /or resigned.
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occuserpens Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 11:48 PM
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11. Well, now they are looking in the right direction
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W stands for Wacko Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 02:05 AM
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12. Operation "Cover your butt?" ... Military establishment separation?
Trying to distance themselves from the Neo-cons?

Or

Will all evidence now be purged in the name of national security?

Of course we look for the silver lining, right before the cloud shoots thunderbolts at and rains on us.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 05:50 AM
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13. 2009, investigation into "Whitewash-gate" begins
and probes into the massive undertaking of faux 'internal' investigations - and for-show 'external/political celebrity' investigations - that were not investigations but had the sole purpose to white wash the untoward and borderline criminal conduct of the Bush Administration.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 07:40 AM
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14. Oh Please! Quit wasting our money.
Edited on Fri Nov-18-05 07:41 AM by leesa
The Pentagon find Feith anything but snowy white innocent?!?
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 07:50 AM
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15. So, the fox is going to investigate what the fox did in the henhouse? LOL.
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 07:59 AM
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16. O Come, All Ye Feith-Ful
Sorry, couldn't resist.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 10:31 AM
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19. We had Feith-based intelligence in the runup to the Iraq war.
:-)
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 12:49 PM
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20. 'Feith-based' also came to my mind
;-)
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 02:17 PM
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22. Let's hope it's a REAL investigation! nt
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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-20-05 12:03 PM
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24. kick
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