Iraqis Say There Should Be Troop Timetable (Ba Ba Bang Bushie

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/international/AP-Egypt-Iraq-Conference.html

November 21, 2005
Iraqis Say There Should Be Troop Timetable
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Filed at 11:30 a.m. ET

CAIRO, Egypt (AP) -- Leaders of Iraq's sharply divided Shiites, Kurds and Sunnis, seeking common ground for their political future together, agreed Monday there should be a timetable for the withdrawal of foreign troops, and that resistance was the right of all -- but that acts of terror should be condemned.

..more at link..

Three groups who CANNOT agree on anything else, ALL want the US troops out. End. Of. Discussion.

How do they think the Iraqi people feel about this? Wait a goldurn minute, they ARE the Iraqi people!

OK...The majority of Americans AND Iraqis do not want US troops in Iraq. What kind of man-date is that Shrub? Rep. Murtha hit the nail on the head last week. Just wait until Cindy Sheehan is arrsted on Thanksgiving Day this week. The holiday weekend news will be consumed of her arrest since nothing else will be going on politically.

the Macy day parade!

I'll be shocked if the corporate media (formerly known as the MSM) will allow Cindy to be seen at all.

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I read in on Aljazeera wondering if anyone heard it on MSN or Cnn. Heres the linkhttp://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/BA0BD6DB-6ED0-493B-92DC-E06294EEB1F4.htm

of the USA yet. Dont they know being in Eye-Raq and killing people everyday is the Republican party vote-getter and meal-ticket?

On both sides of the aisle.

Murthas plan is the only one that has a hope in hell.

Amen to that!!!!

And take Chalabi with you!

to congress that it's time to leave. If they're stable enough to agree on this, I don't think we should be there anymore.

people of the two countries who want us to go.

Pressure from within? Pressure from Iran to get the U.S. out?

Where is Cheney to say they hate merica and that type of thinking is irresponsible?

It's....open-ended. They'll set a timetable once the security forces have been trained.

You got that, good buddy?


mmmkay.



;)

With the war now permanently unpopular among most American voters, the Repulbicans will declare victory and get out just in time for the Congressional elections.

I don't think we have to work as hard on opposing the war when it would be political suicide for the Republicans to "stay the course". They'll just have a fake victory and fake parades and fake war heroes, right before Election day.

I expect those will have a skeleton staff during the elections, with some nice sounding invitation from the Iraqi government for those to stay 'to protect regional stability' or some such phrase. They'll be able to spin them as equivalent to American bases in Germany - no patrols on Iraqi streets where American troops are in danger. After the election they can have more troops posted there quietly. They are needed to look after the oil assets of the US and UK companies/

such a surprise.

the chimps head is going to explode soon.

That he would that the troops out when the Iraqi people asked us to? Seems like there's going to be a new option for a spearhead if he chooses to stall after this point.

Powell Says Troops Would Leave Iraq
if New Leaders Asked
By Glenn Kessler
Washington Post
May 15, 2004

Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, joined by the foreign ministers of nations making key contributions of military forces in Iraq, emphatically said yesterday that if the incoming Iraqi interim government ordered the departure of foreign troops after July 1, they would pack up without protest. "We would leave," Powell said, noting that he was "not ducking the hypothetical, which I usually do," to avoid confusion on the extent of the new government's authority.

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/occupation/2004/0515troops.htm

Only cowards cut and run.

Thank you,

-Congresswoman Schmidt

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Is it their natural stupidity, or...?

(Good job, mods!)

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because we invaded and occupied their country. Simple as that. They will never want us there, no matter how many troops we send

and in case you forgot: we lost Vietnam too

how many members of your family are eligible for the draft?

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"terrorist" and "insurgent" are just buzz-words to describe the Iraqi people resisting invasion. Shall we kill off every citizen in order to "win"?

I fail to see how a civil war in Iraq is any of our business anyway. We got rid of Saddam, the rest is up to them

"We won Vietnam in 73. We then lost it in 75' when the democrats .."
So, we won in '73 huh? Everything was hunky-dory before the democrats. Were did you learn your history, in an Alabama bible school?

We don't care much for ignorance and deception.

to the core or that ARVN morale was in the toilet well before even 1973, much less 1975. From the time that war began, the south was going to lose barring wiping out the north.

has lied to get us into war and are lying to keep us in the war. This administration, civilian leadership of the Pentagon, and PNAC neocons pushing for war have demonstrated that they are incapable of success. They used these tired old arguments in Vietnam to keep us there. If we pulled out, the Communists would control the world. Didn't happen. Since success is not an option with the buffoons in charge, then failure is the only outcome. Let's not lose more lives to the "stay and die" crowd!

You enlisted yet?

You're one I don't think anyone would mind going right on over. Enjoy your stay here - brief as it may be.

Zarakari is blowing up people to try and get the citizens of the countries in the coalition to pull there troops out of Irag and the Middle East. Once we are out of Iraq and it will happen sooner vs later, Iran will move in and cotrol the region much like they do in their own country. Iranian goverment does not like "terrorists" on its own soil, to hard to control, but prefer them to go out and attack its enemies. Once the US leaves the ruling shiites will give $ and oil to the sunis to keep them from pursing an all out civil war. The current war will be seen as if George Bush made a play for the oil and the people of Iraq won. Still proud to be an American?

This war, FEMA etc show the Bush/Cheney form of corptocracy goernment does not work.

We got saddam. There's nothing there to win.

We're blowing a nice chunk of a trillion dollars there. If you want to win, take the jackpot and get out.

But they're far too cowardly to actually act on the convictions they say they have.

too many beers to drink.

:puke:

He 'tweren't no freeper!

(Now, if you'd said "too busy fucking their cousins", I'd totally agree! :evilgrin:)

:toast:

who exactly is the enemy?

It's not about 2k deaths. It's WRONG, the entire war was Wrong.

The Iraqi people want us to leave, 80 percent want us to leave.

The only thing pathetic in this world is the inability to face the truth when it's slapping you across the face.

Your wrong to believe it's about 2,100 deaths. It's about 65k Iraqi deaths and a country that is completely destroyed. The people rebuilding it are Halliburton employees, not Iraqis.

Let me explain it in freeper terms, If France invaded (we all know how much they love the french).. and busted up the entire country, but gave all the jobs to the french and french companies, how would we feel about them?

Now blow our kids up and grandparents, parents, brothers, sisters, uncles, wives husbands etc.

Now give us instability with essentials, electricity, water etc.

Now blow our homes.

How do you feel about the war now from that perspective?

a very rough time suffering just like we have in Iraq, we should stay there simply because we are involved in a war even though the war is wrong?

She and the rest of the pro-war fucks on both sides should realize: when the three factions normally at each others' throats call for you to tell them when you're leaving, you no longer have a choice - leave or get forced out.

How many more will die thanks to fools who support lies and conquest?

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Fucking lying fascists piss me off.

aren't worth the paper they were written on. Go back to start.

Why?

What were you winning in Vietnam? ... What exactly is winning? When you assert you will over another group of people?

Kinda like that bully George


LOL what is this USA the last victory call? You know terrorists chant too, they are patriotic for their country too.

They chant God is Great. You see the subtle difference yet? Your fighting the faith of the Arab people, it's why we will never win.

After all, he's finally united the Sunnis, Shi'ites, and Kurds on a common platform...of getting us to leave.

"The terrorists want to control the oil. Our way of life will be at risk". George W. Bush (Nov. 2005)



Bush Regime Iraq Successes

1. Saddam will no longer sell Iraqi oil via the Euro.

2, A military foothold in the ME. Other than Saudi Arabia.

3, No countries will be able to buy Iraqi oil that the U.S. disapproves of.

4. The Multi-Intl. Oil Corps are reaping great profits.

5. The Military Industrial Complex is a booming Industry.



“We live a lie when we fail to hold leaders accountable for their lies. By not calling now for impeachment, we are saying that we condone hypocrisy, pseudo-democracy, and murdering thousands of Americans and Iraqis for strategic control of energy resources that we have no right to. Patriotism demands that we insist on the ideals of democracy, not that we support the "leaders" who cynically destroy them.”
Robert Shetterly

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that all of a sudden, BushCO. gets a free pass right when his popularity is down and public opinion is against him. If he were to cut and run on his own, he'd have the appearance of a lame duck.

But he now has a "get out of jail" for free card, lets see how he plays it.

I want this war over, I want our troops home and the Iraqi people to rebuild their country and secure it. I believe that is the only way they will find their way through the mess of democracy we've been pushing upon them.

But the timing bothers me, makes me wonder if Condi didn't place a call desperate call.

Did you see that? That was great.
Iraqi leaders called for a timetable for the withdrawal of U.S.-led forces and said
Iraq's opposition had a "legitimate right" of resistance.

The communique — finalized by Shiite, Kurdish and Sunni leaders Monday — condemned terrorism but was a clear acknowledgment of the Sunni position that

The party of Halliburton and Enron will leave when THEY feel like it. You can always trust the GOP to run your life, and these Iraqis need to learn that liberation means occupation, death, and theft of oil. George Bush is soooooo much better than Saddam right?

:sarcasm:

And, um... where's Osama, BTW?

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