Schmidt in hot water

Three days after Rep. Jean Schmidt was booed off the House floor for saying that "cowards cut and run, Marines never do," the Ohioan she quoted disputed the comments. Danny Bubp, a freshman state representative who is a colonel in the Marine Corps Reserve, told The Enquirer that he never mentioned Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., by name when talking with Schmidt, and he'd never call a fellow Marine a coward


http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051122/CINCI/51111003

The incident has brought unwanted national attention to Bubp's skimpy service record and Taliban activities.

For those not knowing, in 30-odd years as a Marine reservist, Bubp had no combat ribbons and can only claim 3 commendations, one from the army, for good bureaucratic work.

;)

Bureaucratic work??? Hmmmm sounds fishy to me.

Recipient: Joint Service Commendation Medal; Navy and Marine Corps Commendation Medal; Army Commendation Medal

http://www.house.state.oh.us/jsps/MemberDetails.jsp?DISTRICT=88

Schmidt - decked out in a red-white-and-blue suit that resembled the U.S. flag - went to the floor and quoted from a telephone conversation with Bubp: "He asked me to send Congress a message: Stay the course.

"He also asked me to send Congressman Murtha a message: That cowards cut and run, Marines never do."

The comment drew a chorus of boos and shouting from Democrats.

It's unclear whether Schmidt, who will start her 79th day in the House today, knew at the time of her remarks that Murtha had served 37 years in the Marine Corps and Marine Corps Reserve.
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Both the outfit and her ignorance are unbelievably ROTFL funny:rofl: :rofl:

Edit -sp

You can watch it on ....
www.crooksandliars.com

Scroll down about half way.

:rofl:

i'll have to check this out when i get home.

A taste of the old SNL....when they did some on-the-edge political comedy!!!

:rofl:

although the napkins probably matched the table cloth. That was priceless:rofl: :rofl:

But that brings to mind an image of her patriotic bikini.

Ewwwwwww.

please. Wonder if she wears that ugly cow chain around her neck with the napkin bikini:rofl: :puke:

Just call her the "Evel One".

(using another's name) to slam a fellow house member? If Bubp says he didn't tell her to come to the floor of the House and say what she did in his behalf, seems to me there should be some other kind of retribution due her. Why does a nice big 'punch in the mouth' keep coming to mind? I'm so sick of the repuke tactics....

http://www.bluegrassreport.org/bluegrass_politics/2005/11/is_mean_jean_sc.html

<snip>
Aside from offending a good chunk of America this weekend by calling Rep. John P. Murtha (D-PA), a 37-year veteran of the Marine Corps, a coward, a quick glance at Rep. Jean Schmidt's (R-OH) campaign website seems to show that she may be violating House ethics rules regarding improper campaign activity by a House member.

In particular, the Campaign Activity manual published by the House Committee on Standards of Official Conduct contains the following passage on impermissible use of "official indicia":

In reproducing such materials, the campaign must remove all official indicia, such as the official letterhead from a press release that the congressional office had issued, and any references to the address or telephone number of the congressional office. The name of any congressional staff contact that appeared in the material as issued originally must also be deleted. Subject to the same requirements, such materials may also be posted on the Member’s campaign Web site.

Unfortunately, the home page of Rep. Schmidt's campaign website contains not only the address and telephone numbers of all four of her official congressional offices, but also contains a banner photo of her standing in front of the United States Capitol, as well as the official seal of the House of Representatives which hyper-links to the House website.
</snip>

:rofl: She's a pip! :rofl:

please edit your link...it goes to photo only

Here is the correct link and title;
Schmidt in war of words
http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051122/NEWS01/511220352/1077

thanks in advance

doh ><

We already know they're both pieces of shit, but one of them is now a GUARANTEED liar.

her constituents. and gets voted out right quick.

She got in via the machines most likely.

The tabulators "burnt out due to high humiditity and heat" so they switched to counting the ballots by hadn. People were suspicious because they saw Hackett coming out ahead until the ballots were hand counted. In this case, it wasn't Diebolded, and in a district that went about 65% for Bush in 04, I doubt it was even stolen...

It was still very close.

I do think that that guy is right. Schmidt really seemed okay to some of the more moderate conservatives in her district, but after having opened her mouth, she'd going to have to answer to their wrath next year. It's sad cause she was elected in a special election. she doesn't even get two years before she needs to start campaigning like hell all over again...

what the heck kind of people voted this witch into office? Whether or not Bubp said what he said, she should have had the common decency to keep her trap shut. But, then again, she is a Republican.

Diebold

those are the cretins that voted for this Nazi bitch!

to vote for Paul Hackett. Profuse apologies!!

There are no 'free & fair' elections.

...is a very conservative city.

http://www.cjnetworks.com/~cubsfan/places/cincinatti.html

To set the record straight, the City of Cincinnati went for Kerry-Edwards with a 66% majority. The city is about 310,000; Hamilton County (outside the city) is about 535,000. The neanderthal vote comes from the suburbs (white flight) which is pretty typical across the entire country. Full of SUV-driving, cigarette-smoking, bottle-blondes on cell-phones. Disgusting...
Sadly, Cincy gets tarred with the county...two different animals.

The "Diebold Effect" took place in the surrounding counties, maybe even here. We used punch cards for 30 years; the tabulators which compile the vote are ES&S, and their digital innards are just as subject to malicious programming as DRE's. We'll be using opscan systems next year; things will get worse.

We MUST stop the electronic theft of our vote. EVERYONE
has to get this word out and help focus the MSM - on the GAO Report, for instance. Read Andrew Gumbel's "Steal This Vote." Sobering look at our mythic, esteemed institutions.

Back in the '70's (Or early '80's)
2 laid off auto workers were drinking one night and decided to take there misplaced rage out on a "Jap" that had got them laid off.
Turns out they BEAT TO DEATH a Laotian teenager.
They were acquitted, and when the family brought a civil rights case against them, they beat that too.
Seems that if you are any color but white there, you don't have a right to live.

I looked for the link of the story, but couldn't find it...

Yeah, no doubt the city can be vilified for multiple reasons, just like almost any other place in the USA. Ever look at justice in TX? Makes Cincinnati seem like paradise. Fairness in the USA is a myth in many respects. Cheers, keep the revolution rolling!

knew what she was going to say. She would not have been given any time otherwise. They consciously planned the whole charade as an ugly smear against Murtha. That's the way they have done things since 1993 and it has always worked for them.

This is the first time in 12 years that I can remember Democrats defending one of their guys. It's the thing that used to gall me beyond belief, that they would just let a smear hang out there to become solidified into "conventional wisdom." I would be so furious that they would not stand up for their own guys time after time after time.

This Mean Jean trick would have worked for the Repukes had the Dems not started yelling right there, on the spot, as it was happening. They need to defend immediately like this every single time the Repukes spring a smear.

They "knew what she was going to say. She would not have been given any time otherwise. They consciously planned the whole charade as an ugly smear against Murtha. That's the way they have done things since 1993 and it has always worked for them.

The Willie Hortoning of the Democratic Party has always worked for these scumbags. They used being "soft on crime" against the Democrats and morphed it seamlessly into being soft on terror.

the story has already become part of the right wing fairy tales that will be told ad infinatum...the truth is never an issue...

not only is Jean Schitt an ugly, mean spirited, brain dead hag, but she's a LYING ugly, mean spirited, brain dead hag! Go figure, a Republican, lying to smear the good name of a heroic American for their own personal gain.

Is it in their DNA or are there special institutions that they must train at in order to have that (R) after their names? It must be an intensive course to produce the evil, classless, miscreants that they do.

than the way she looks.

both need to turn in their 10 Commandment plaques.




Looks like they forgot the one that says, 'thou shalt not lie'?

bare false witness

covet

take the lord's name in vain

steal

have other gods before god

they've got a lot to answer for, IMO

Kind of like when Rummy or Cheney "smile"?

gymnast's ponytail!!! When she lets down her hair, her face likely falls to her knees!

Maiden Speech by the Honorable Jean Schmidt

Public Statements
Speaker: Representative Jean Schmidt (OH)
Title: Maiden Speech by the Honorable Jean Schmidt
Location: Washington, DC
Date: 09/06/2005

MAIDEN SPEECH BY THE HONORABLE JEAN SCHMIDT -- (House of Representatives - September 06, 2005)

(Mrs. SCHMIDT asked and was given permission to address the House for 1 minute.)

Mrs. SCHMIDT. Mr. Speaker, I stand here today in the same shoes, though with a slightly higher heel, as thousands of Members who have taken the same oath before me. I am mindful of what is expected of me both by this hallowed institution and the hundreds of thousands of Americans I am blessed to represent. I am the lowest-ranking Member of this body, the very bottom rung of the ladder; and I am privileged to hold that title.

This House has much work to do. On that we can all agree. We will not always agree on the details of that work. Honorable people can certainly agree to disagree. However, here today I accept a second oath. I pledge to walk in the shoes of my colleagues and refrain from name-calling or the questioning of character. It is easy to quickly sink to the lowest form of political debate. Harsh words often lead to headlines, but walking this path is not a victimless crime. This great House pays the price.

So at this moment, I begin my tenure in this Chamber, uncertain of what history will say of my tenure here. I come here green with only a desire to make our great country even greater. We have much work to do. In that spirit, I pledge to each of you that any disagreements we may have are just that and no more. Walking in each other's shoes takes effort and pause; however, it is my sincere hope that I never lose the patience to view each of you as human beings first, God's creatures, and foremost. I deeply appreciate this opportunity to serve with each of you. I very much look forward to getting to know you better, and I humbly thank you, Mr. Speaker, for allowing me to address this humble body.

More:
http://www.vote-smart.org/speech_detail.php?speech_id=125386&keyword=&phrase=&contain=



See also:

Jean Schmidt receives loud boos at her local bondage and discipline club
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2267715

Jean for feeling the need to hide behind someone else and say, "Danny Bubp says..." and then to retract her statement in the face of criticism.

And Danny Bubp for not providing cover for the woman who helped him get his job in the first place-- whether he actually said those words or not. I thought a real Marine would be willing to take a bullet for someone he owes his career to? Doesn't "Semper Fidelis" mean "Always Faithful?"

Cowards leave their mentors behind on the battlefield. Marines never do.

I guess Danny Bubp is one of those "Jeff Gannon Marines" who have a completely different idea of what it means to be "in the foxhole" with someone.

Then again, after the way Schmidt abandoned Joe Braun when he was caught using her campaign email account to solicit kinky sex, maybe Danny Bubp realized Jean wouldn't stick her neck out to protect him, either.

decided to "cut and run".

She got it.

Sen/COL Murtha's interview with Tim Russert on MTP only exemplified his stature in the eyes of many Americans who give a damn.
He did not allow Russert to use him in the name-calling game that Russert and so many of his co-horts use.

Sen/COL Murtha was not drawn into attacking Jeanne Schmidt, nor the Bubpus guy. Het gave her an out for simply being the junior Senator doing and reading what she was given to do. Anyone with an ounce of smarts would realize that the CON's would not have allowed a Junior with less than 80-days that time on the floor.....it was a case of let "Mikey," do the dirty deed.

Schmidt. I am not familiar with how she got elected. Was she elected during a special election?

the Iraq War Veteran who is now competing for the Democratic nomination for Senate against Sherrod Brown. She narrowly won in a very republican district.

her face....big time...

make the newbie ride it like a raft!!

http://www.timesreporter.com/left.php?ID=48075&r=2


COLUMBUS – State Rep. John Boccieri, D-New Middletown, an Iraq War veteran, said he is disappointed in his former colleague of the Ohio House and now Congresswoman Jean Schmidt, R-Ohio.

(snip)
Boccieri, who returned in September from his fourth tour in Operations Iraqi Freedom and Enduring Freedom, said, “My colleague, Rep. Bubp, is out of line and so was Congresswoman Schmidt. To call a decorated serviceman a coward because he shares a differing view about Iraq War policy demeans all veterans and soldiers in uniform today.”

(snip)
“Their style of politics attempts to demean the character of people with different opinions and brand them as unpatriotic,” Boccieri said in a news release. “I find it ironic that at a time when American soldiers are fighting for democracy in Iraq, we are experiencing such a confining view of democracy right here in our own country. Debate is healthy and is at the core of a robust democracy. The debate about Iraq is appropriate and verbal attacks waged against a decorated veteran who chose to put his life on the line for all of us is cheap and insulting.”

(snip)
“I have the utmost respect for State Rep. Bubp’s service to our country and would share this same sentiment if I felt he was being unjustly attacked,” Boccieri said. “Rep. Bubp should follow the lead of a regretful congresswoman – Jean Schmidt – and rescind his disparaging remarks made to Congressman Murtha, and in my judgment, all of America’s veterans.”

Go, John!

I knew it was bullshit the minute that hag spit out those words.

This should be highlighted and shoved in Republicans faces. These people have no respect nor honour when using religion, flag or patriotism.

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051122/NEWS01/511220352

Tuesday, November 22, 2005

Schmidt in war of words Rookie lawmaker's 'coward' remarks ricochet

By Malia Rulon
Enquirer Washington Bureau

http://cmsimg.enquirer.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=AB&Date=20051122&Category=NEWS01&ArtNo=511220352&Ref=AR&MaxW=300&MaxH=700&border=0

WASHINGTON - Three days after Rep. Jean Schmidt was booed off the House floor for saying that "cowards cut and run, Marines never do," the Ohioan she quoted disputed the comments. Danny Bubp, a freshman state representative who is a colonel in the Marine Corps Reserve, told The Enquirer that he never mentioned Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., by name when talking with Schmidt, and he would never call a fellow Marine a coward. "The unfortunate thing about all of that is that her choice of words on the floor of the House - I don't know, she's a freshman, she had one minute. "Unfortunately, they came out wrong," said Bubp, R-West Union.

Lawmakers were in the midst of a passionate debate Friday over whether to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq, an issue pushed to a vote by Republicans after public comments from Murtha. Schmidt - decked out in a red-white-and-blue suit that resembled the U.S. flag - went to the floor and quoted from a telephone conversation with Bubp: "He asked me to send Congress a message: Stay the course. "He also asked me to send Congressman Murtha a message: That cowards cut and run, Marines never do." The comment drew a chorus of boos and shouting from Democrats.

It's unclear whether Schmidt, who will start her 79th day in the House today, knew at the time of her remarks that Murtha had served 37 years in the Marine Corps and Marine Corps Reserve. She immediately took back her remarks. It's against House rules to refer to a fellow lawmaker by name or to criticize them. Schmidt, a Republican from Clermont County's Miami Township, then wrote to Murtha to explain that she has a lot to learn and did not mean to disparage his service.

Bubp, who has served in the Marine Corps Reserve for 27 years, including three years of active duty, said he called Schmidt on Friday afternoon to discuss the resolution that called for the immediate withdrawal of troops from Iraq - not to talk about Murtha. The House nonbinding resolution failed by a 403-3 vote. "There was no discussion of him personally being a coward or about any person being a coward," Bubp said. "My message to the folks in Washington, D.C., and to all the Congress people up there, is to stay the course. We cannot leave Iraq or cut and run - any terminology that you want to use." Still, Bubp said the whole thing has been blown out of proportion.

How typical.

it seems to be a prerequisite to be a GOP member of Congress.

It's not about words, symantics, Plame, Scooter, troops home

REMEMBER: it's not about any of that shit - it's about deliberately lying to the public in order to advance the neo-con agenda of Imperialistic enforced corperate rule of the planet.

Napkin set.

Every speech prior to Schmidt's gaff started out praising Murtha's bio. She was there. I was just watching on TV and I knew it.

Why are people giving her a pass on that? There is no possible way she didn't know.

I mean, Diebold stole the election for her in Ohio, didn't they? Just like they "fixed" the machines for the Repugs in 2004.

The reign of these losers is coming to an end. Between this shrew and the clinically out-of-his-mind Donald Rumsfeld on the talk shows this weekend, everybody but the most inbred, fire-breathing, bible-thumping hatemongering assholes can see that they're ridiculous.

Oh, and oil company executives.

...the ambassador to China or something? She's such a colossal fuck-up, she's gotta be a Bush appointee!

We're talking Presidential Medal of Freedom material, here! ("You're doing a heckuva job, Smitty!" *sound of horses whinnying in background*)

scoundrel is patriotism or religion....

1968... Later that year, Hoffman is arrested on a desecration charge-for wearing a shirt resembling the U.S. flag.

http://www.pbs.org/opb/thesixties/topics/revolution/newsmakers_2.html

:sarcasm: with irony.

Here's an interesting tid bit on the old shrew.

In the tradition of corrupt repigs.

http://www.mydd.com/story/2005/7/12/12835/7314

snip> JEAN SCHMIDT'S ETHICAL PROBLEMS: PAST AND PRESENT

Republican congressional candidate, Jean Schmidt is currently facing a state investigation by the Joint Legislative Ethics Committee into her actions when she was a state representative. The investigation is examining why Schmidt and four other Republican lawmakers failed to report $5,000 worth in Bengals tickets and restaurant tabs that a lobbyist for the biotech firm, Chiron Corp. paid for. Schmidt's campaign aids state in the Cincinnati Enquirer that she did not know that the cost of the luxury seats and dinner at Nicola's Ristorante for both her and her daughter exceeded $75. However, this response differs from another statement the campaign made that Schmidt knew the gifts exceeded $75, but thought they were from Boomer Esiason, not lobbyists. At the time, Chiron was lobbying legislators to create a cystic fibrosis task force. A month later, Schmidt co-sponsored a bill that created a cystic fibrosis task force.

This isn't the first time Schmidt has been accused of unethical activity...< snip

They've been involved in a bunch of stuff, from the Ten Commandments bruhaha to other things like Operation Rescue. Where Schmidt goes, you can usually find Bupt.

It's interesting he's selling her out now.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/max-blumenthal/who-is-mean-jeans-marine_b_10993.html

http://fuzzyandblue.blogspot.com/

>Rush Limbaugh claimed this ABSOLUTE lie on his 11/21/05 show: RUSH: "I think they (Democrats) are all cowards. I think they get very defensive here. In fact, let me play this audio sound bite for you of Jean Schmidt on the floor of the House w/her message from Marine Col Danny Bubp... The House will be in order! Oh, the House was not in order because somebody -- a United States Marine on the ground in Iraq -- had the guts to get a message to the Dems in the House of Reps

Bubp WAS NOT nor was he EVER in any battle of any kind. Bubp's very own bio states that as a fact: 2003 - Served on the J-3 Staff at United States Central Command, Tampa, Florida for General Tommy Franks in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom. So Rush, was Bubp a Marine ON THE GROUND... in Tampa FL perhaps, ya drugged up fuckwit? Check the FACTS and give REALITY a try asshat. And by the way you self bloated drug addict... Bubp is now claiming that Jean the Wrinkled Prune Schmidt got their conversation all wrong, <

http://www.geocities.com/danin04/bio

DANNY BUBP for State Rep. Committee - 307 N. Market St., West Union, OH 45693

Biographical Background of
Danny R. Bubp

>Military Service :
1978 - Commissioned as Second Lieutenant in the United States Marine Corps
1978-Present - Continues to serve in United States Marine Corps Reserve as a Colonel of Marines
1997-Present - Serves on the staff at the National Defense University, Washington, D.C. as Team Leader for the Reserve Component National Security Course
2003 - Graduate of Naval War College, Newport, Rhode Island
2003 - Served on the J-3 Staff at United States Central Command, Tampa, Florida for General Tommy Franks in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom

Issues
Restoring Religious Freedom and Upholding Traditional Values
I helped fight for the right of a school district to post the Ten Commandments against a lawsuit by the ACLU. I stand opposed to expanded gambling in this state, as the economic and moral problems that come with it are far too great. Marriage should be between a man and a woman, and Ohio can and should act to ensure the civil unions now available in Vermont are not recognized in Ohio because of the force of a legal challenge.<

His career "high points" are ones that most folk would not even bother mentioning. And that bit about working for Tommy Franks...sure, pal. He worked for a two star who worked for Tommy Franks, and who knows what his reporting chain was between himself and the two-star. And notice how he avoids mentioning what billet he served in--if it were anything good, he would have placed it front and center--sounds like ACDUTRA to me!

He might as well have said he worked for the dunce, himself. If you are gonna BS, might as well do it in a big way!! Hey, if you are an E-1, you report to the Commander-in-Chief...through a chain of command that stretches on, interminably.

Talk about trying to bullshit your own level of importance!!!

Until she's a withered old hag because the majority of voters in her District like their politicians real Republican and real corrupt.

or to criticize..."

I had no idea.

Wasn't it B-1 Bob Dornan, former Orange Co, CA Congressman who grabbed a fellow congressman by the tie, threatening to beat him up on the House floor?

Perhaps that's how the House rule about criticizing colleagues evolved.

Hilariously, here's her first...

"This House has much work to do. On that we can all agree. We will not always agree on the details of that work. Honorable people can certainly agree to disagree. However, here today I accept a second oath. I pledge to walk in the shoes of my colleagues and refrain from name-calling or the questioning of character. It is easy to quickly sink to the lowest form of political debate. Harsh words often lead to headlines, but walking this path is not a victimless crime. This great House pays the price. "

http://www.first-draft.com/

Of course he made the cut and run/coward statement. Whether he intended to have Schmidt repeat it in the House? Who besides those two really knows. She didn't act alone that is for sure. His words, her delivery. He is a phony hack.

I bet this is the way they talk about anti-* opponents back home.

She let slip the real and very cynical thinking in her district.

I bet he thought her small town rhetoric would play big time in DC and she looked so smug and self righteous as she out shouted the boo'es and hisses her comments generated.

She was in for a rude shock- Murtha is respected on the Hill, while she looks like the wicked witch of the heart-less land.

when he's another politician. I doubt she even talks to just any old constituents, anyway. Whatever. Two Republicans. Two liars.

with her lies.

Jean Schmidt barely won election in what was supposed to be a solidly Rebublican district. I suggest we call her "One Term Jean."

Read another thread talking about how Schmidt won a close race by a hair beating out Hackett, an Iraqi vet, after the vote count was held up by humidity. Whatever it takes, the GOP continues to deliver its benefits to America.

We did get two great memes out of this thread, tho: bullschmidt and schmidthead.

more wasn't made of it, especially in the corrupt electoral state of Ohio.

I thought she said 'Marines don't cut and run'? Looks like her 'stay-at-home' Marine Col. just ran out on her. Unless she was lying on the floor of Congress, that is.

My feeling is that these two are typical of the adoloscent rightwing mindset, dirty tricksters who for years, got away with their stupid smears because the Dems ignored them.

I believe the two of them cooked this up together, including her appearing in a jogging suit that made her look like a giant flag lapel pin, and they probably giggled over how brilliant they were.

The reaction of the Democrats was instant and like a boil that has been waiting to burst for a long time. Too bad their childish pranks did not get a similar reaction the first time they tried them.

Col. Bupb's retreat should be remembered and proves that a quick response to their vile, smear tactics will result in a cowardly 'Oh, I didn't mean it' and would have long ago had they been stopped right at the beginning.

I'm glad it's happening now, but it was ignored for way too long, and has caused so much damage to this country ~ I still wish Kerry had sued the lying Swift Boat Veterans ~ we would have seen very different statements from them had they been under oath and forced to acknowledge the facts.

Should be ashamed at this Craven Ass-Clown

and a pic of her. WTF happened? No other text at all.

Oh no, let's all just fucking die instead!:sarcasm:

What fucking idiots!

It would be a LOT harder to "help" Schmidt win over Hackett if the election were held today instead of earlier.

All that remains is the title. I checked a few hours ago - same problem. Even the 'printer-friendly' version only contains the headline and the picture of hideous Schmidt, :puke:.

Are other folks having the same problem, accessing the article?

Thanks,
Lori

Did Bush bomb their newsroom the way he wanted to bomb Al Jazeera?

She insulted both the marines and Murtha!!!

Kick! Please pass this story along to everyone you know.