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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 12:52 PM
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Bush al-Jazeera 'plot' dismissed (White House official)
Edited on Tue Nov-22-05 12:56 PM by sabra

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/4459296.stm

Bush al-Jazeera 'plot' dismissed

The White House has dismissed claims George Bush was talked out of bombing Arab television station al-Jazeera by UK Prime Minister Tony Blair.

...

A White House official said: "We are not going to dignify something so outlandish with a response."

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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 12:57 PM
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1. In otherwords, we've been caught lying so many times before I'll just
keep my mouth shut about this one.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 12:58 PM
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If I remember correctly one of the responses was to ..
zip a rocket right thru the window of one of al-Jazeera's facilities.
I seem to remember another response that killed one of their reporters on a rooftop.

Maybe the WH line should be "We've already responded to that."
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 12:58 PM
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2. We won't actually deny anything, since that would be lying
We'll just dismiss it as just another conspiracy theory.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 01:00 PM
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3. Well, it's confirmed then.
If they deny it, it happened.

Simple logic.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 01:01 PM
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4. That is the way they've always worked.
Bush wanted al jazeera bombed.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 01:13 PM
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6. They also denied the DSM, Katrina and etc etc etc.
so I guess I should believe them on this.
The fact that this came up so quickly and that Blair's recent statement Guantanamo 'must be stopped', which for political survival tries to separate himself from the WH has no truth either
( Link here:)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1941618

I can't help but think that
the river in Egypt has very wide banks and is running at flood stage.
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MsKandice01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 01:08 PM
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5. Exactly.
If they say it didn't happen, it did.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 01:18 PM
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7. Eh, so what? We already know Bush has invaded sovereign nations
for no good reason, we know he's an evil moron. This might prove that Blair is a better person than Bush after all, but it could hardly prove to me that Bush is more evil. Who doesn't believe he deliberately killed members of the media, anyway? If they release the document, and it says what they say, and it wasn't a joke, it's just one more bit of evidence to demonstrate what we already know, and for the Republicans to pretend just doesn't matter.

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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 01:25 PM
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8. AP Story: Report: Bush Talked of Bombing Al-Jazeera
LONDON - A civil servant has been charged under Britain's Official Secrets Act for allegedly leaking a government memo that a newspaper said Tuesday suggested that Prime Minister Tony Blair persuaded President Bush not to bomb the Arab satellite station Al-Jazeera.

The Daily Mirror reported that Bush spoke of targeting Al-Jazeera's headquarters in Doha, Qatar, when he met Blair at the White House on April 16, 2004. The Bush administration has regularly accused Al-Jazeera of being nothing more than a mouthpiece for anti-American sentiments.

The Daily Mirror attributed its information to unidentified sources. One source, said to be in the government, was quoted as saying that the alleged threat was "humorous, not serious," but the newspaper quoted another source as saying that "Bush was deadly serious, as was Blair."

Blair's office declined to comment on the report, stressing it never discusses leaked documents.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051122/ap_on_re_eu/britain_iraq_2
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 02:39 PM
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9. Ongoing investigation supporting the enemy want to get to the bottom of th
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 04:14 PM
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10. Blair persuaded Bush not to bomb Al-Jazeera headquarters: Daily Mirror rep
From canoe, via CLG:

LONDON (AP) - A British civil servant has been charged under the Official Secrets Act for allegedly leaking a government memo that, according to a newspaper report Tuesday, suggests that Prime Minister Tony Blair persuaded President George W. Bush not to bomb the Arab satellite station Al-Jazeera.

According to the Daily Mirror, Bush spoke of targeting Al-Jazeera's headquarters in Doha, Qatar, when he met Blair at the White House on April 16 last year. The U.S. government has regularly accused Al-Jazeera of being a mouthpiece for anti-American sentiments.

Blair's Downing Street office declined to comment on the report.

In Qatar, Al-Jazeera said it was aware of the report, but did not wish to comment at this stage.

More
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 04:14 PM
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11. Some idiot is trying to say Smirk was joking
Smirk doesn't joke. He was dead serious.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 04:14 PM
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12. If this is true, it proves that he's a war criminal.
This should be a huge story.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 04:14 PM
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13. Didn't we "accidentally" bomb Al-Jazeera's office
in Baghdad anyway?
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 04:14 PM
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14. Yes. we did and there were deaths. Was that related? Good point!
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 04:18 PM
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15. You also fired missiles at the al-Jazeera office in Afghanistan
"accidentally" of course.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 04:22 PM
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17. Not only that, but we also shut down a newspaper during
Herr Bremer's reign in Baghdad...kicked the employees out and locked the doors behind them.

They just cannot stand any media that would DARE to report anything that contradicted what they say (aka, the Truth).
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 07:26 PM
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29. And wasn't someone forced to resign
for stating at a conference that the US military targeted journalists?
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 04:19 PM
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16. I guess the former head of CNN was right. Forced to resign over
such truths, he should speak out.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 04:34 PM
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18. Nondenial dismissal. Methinks they protesteth too much. If it is not
true, why not just say it is not true. If my wife asks me if it is true that I am cheating on her, I am going to say "No!", not "I am not going to dignify that with a response."
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 07:21 PM
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19. Kick
:kick:
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NeoConsSuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 07:22 PM
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20. U.S.: Al-Jazeera bomb story 'outlandish'
LONDON, England (CNN) -- The White House characterized as "outlandish" Tuesday a British newspaper report that President Bush once discussed bombing the headquarters of Arabic-language television network Al-Jazeera with Prime Minister Tony Blair.

Al-Jazeera, based in Qatar, called on the British government to confirm or deny the report, which appeared Tuesday in the Daily Mirror, a London tabloid.

The network has been a frequent target of U.S. criticism, and its facilities have been hit by U.S. bombs in Afghanistan and Iraq. Al-Jazeera said the Daily Mirror report would be "both shocking and worrisome" if true.

<snip>
American bombs struck the network's Kabul office during the U.S. assault on Afghanistan in 2001.

During the 1999 air campaign over Kosovo, U.S. warplanes targeted Yugoslavia's state television network. NATO officials argued it was a legitimate target as the propaganda arm of the Yugoslav government.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/11/22/us.al.jazeera/index.html
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darkmaestro019 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 07:22 PM
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21. How I love the "Nyuh-uh!" defense. (nt)
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 07:22 PM
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22. Of course it's outlandish.
Bushco prefers to take out journalists one at a time. Keeps them all nervous, that way.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 07:22 PM
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23. Oh-oh, hit a nerve there
Usually they never comment on these things.

It must be true.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 07:22 PM
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24. Yeah, the DSM was outlandish, too! nt
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 07:51 PM
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30. Funny you don't read much about that original DSM much in the MSM
these days. Just did a search of the news for Downing Street Memo, and all the recent articles are about this incident. But they're not the same memo, are they? Is someone purposefully trying to confuse the issues? Is this one false and the other true, are they both true and the leakers are out to get Bush and Blair? So many questions, so little time. :shrug:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 08:00 PM
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31. No, they aren't the same, and this revelation is being
swept under the rug, same as the DSM.
There is so much going on with this bunch, so much to defend/deny/lie about, so little time. :)
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 07:22 PM
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25. But true ... nt
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 07:22 PM
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26. Inconceivable!

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Sagan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 07:22 PM
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27. You keep using that word...

I do not think it means what you think it means...

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 07:22 PM
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28. Hmmmm...
in·con·ceiv·a·ble Pronunciation Key (nkn-sv-bl)
adj.

1. Impossible to comprehend or grasp fully: inconceivable folly; an inconceivable disaster.
2. So unlikely or surprising as to have been thought impossible; unbelievable: an inconceivable victory against all odds.
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