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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 08:42 PM
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Official Checks 31 Suspected CIA Flights
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/eu_secret_prisons

PARIS - The head of a European probe into alleged secret
CIA prisons in eastern Europe is investigating 31 suspected flights that landed in Europe and is trying to acquire past satellite images of sites in Romania and Poland, according to a report obtained by The Associated Press Tuesday.

Dick Marty, a Swiss senator leading the investigation for the Council of Europe, presented a first report on his work at a closed meeting of the human rights watchdog's legal affairs committee in Paris.

Marty said he had asked the Brussels-based Eurocontrol air safety organization to provide details of the 31 suspected flights, a list of which was given to him by the New York-based Human Rights Watch.

"I received from Human Rights Watch a list of 31 aircraft alleged to belong to entities with direct or indirect links to the CIA," Marty said in the report, which is to be made public next week. "It is claimed these were used by the CIA to transport prisoners."
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 08:48 PM
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1. Jesus, we're going to be drummed out of Europe.
Edited on Tue Nov-22-05 08:49 PM by aquart
Speaking of schadenfreude, you think the Germans aren't enjoying this?
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 08:54 PM
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2. Torture is wrong. Secret torture is evil
Stop Bush and his torture henchmen from ruining forever the image of America as a fair and decent place. throw the bums out.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 09:12 PM
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3. First, the fundies who blissed out on the passion
have to admit that torture is a bad thing.
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 09:15 PM
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4. Can't you just feel the love ole * has brought...
for our country. OMFG - Somebody please stop this insanity.:grr:
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-22-05 09:23 PM
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5. "... Romania and Poland ..."
A little info after wandering the web for a few minutes...

EU, CIA's Secret Jails:a SCOOP on CIA Prison Planes
http://at.indymedia.org/newswire/display/54697/index.php


CHART, TABLE: CIA Secret Prison-Torture Planes--What the MSM Won’t Tell
http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=9195

Red Cross Seeks Access to CIA Prison
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1103-01.htm

Evidence points to CIA prisons in Poland, Romania: rights group
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051103/ts_afp/usattacksciaprisons_051103195037

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10/24/2005
Romania, United States Nearing Agreement on Military Bases
(Treaty talks to conclude "very soon" for Black Sea sites, NSC's Hadley says) (610)
By Vince Crawley

(snip)
Both Romania and neighboring Bulgaria have allowed U.S. forces to use their military facilities on a recurring basis. Both nations allowed U.S. troops to use their facilities as staging areas for Iraq and Afghanistan operations, and this close cooperation led to President Bush calling for their swift admission to NATO, which took place in 2004.
(snip)

http://bucharest.usembassy.gov/Washington_File/100/05-10-24/eur102.htm

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Background Briefing on Bush Talks in Poland, Russia

........And at the end they spoke about bilateral economic relations and Kwasniewski's desire to increase American investment in Poland and hopes that the F-16 deal -- by which Poland is buying F-16s and Lockheed Martin will help provide American investment for Poland -- Kwasniewski endorsed that, said it was exactly the right kind of arrangement. And the President said he hoped the conditions in Poland would allow for rapid increases of American investment, you know, based on the investment climate.

..............

Q: -- today, meeting with the Polish leader, you mentioned U.S. business investment, and you mentioned F-16s and Lockheed Martin. Fill me out there, walk me through that.

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL: There was a very -- if you want the details, you could go to Lockheed Martin. But as I understand it, the deal for F-16s was a very -- involved a very complicated package of offsets which involved Lockheed Martin.

Q: Is this unusual?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL: Yes, this is a very new deal and it's a very big one. It is the first major American military contract in Poland or any of the new democracies.

MR. FLEISCHER: It's not new as of today. It was earlier --

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL: Right. Yes, that's right, that's correct. That's correct. It was new when it was announced, and it is a couple of months old. Yes, several months old.

Q: What was new today?

SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL: Oh, about that? Nothing. No, no, they discussed the fact that the investment elements of this arrangement might be very beneficial for the Polish economy, for U.S. investment in Poland.

http://www.usinfo.pl/bushvisit2003/briefing.htm


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http://www.manufacturingnews.com/news/04/0707/art1.html

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http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=746
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