Iraqi Official Says He Received Call From Resistance Leader

sabra

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Fri Nov-25-05 02:14 PM
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Iraqi Official Says He Received Call From Resistance Leader

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/25/international/middleeast/25cnd-iraq.html?adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1132945969-d6NAwDhNEVHvq2+9MdzLGw&pagewanted=print

Iraqi Official Says He Received Call From Resistance Leader

BAGHDAD, Iraq, Nov. 25 - A senior aide to Iraq's president said today that some insurgent groups had contacted him to discuss joining in the American-backed political process.

The official, Lt. Gen. Wafiq al-Samarraie, the security adviser to President Jalal Talabani, said he had received calls over the past few days from people claiming to represent bands of guerrillas. The general declined to name the groups or say how many had called. He also declined to discuss any demands that the groups might have communicated.

"I received phone calls from different movements, different groups, some claiming they represent the resistance," he said. "They said they're ready to participate in the political process."

The general added that the people who had called him were Islamists and former Baath Party members, but that none appeared to be loyal to Saddam Hussein. Many of the groups that the callers claimed to represent, he said, are based in the restive province of Anbar, the heartland of the Sunni Arab insurgency.

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Missy M

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Fri Nov-25-05 02:20 PM
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1. Did the caller have a fake Texas accent?

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Bush_Eats_Beef

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Fri Nov-25-05 07:29 PM
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8. Photo of the resistance leader making the call

:evilgrin:

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nadinbrzezinski

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Fri Nov-25-05 02:28 PM
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2. Ah yes flashbacks of '73

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wryter2000

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Fri Nov-25-05 02:38 PM
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4. Refresh my memory

I'm old enough to remember, but I don't. Did the Viet Cong offer to "talk" to the puppet government?

Unless the killings stop, this means squat. If this is *'s idea of saving his miserable butt, it won't work.

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enigma000

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Fri Nov-25-05 03:21 PM
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5. Paris Peace Accords

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Peace_Accords

The Paris Peace Accords were signed in 1973 by the governments of North Vietnam, South Vietnam, and the United States with the intent to establish peace in Vietnam. They were signed in Paris, France.

-snip-

A treaty was finally signed on January 27, 1973. All parties pledged to "respect the independence, sovereignty, unity, and territorial integrity of Vietnam as recognized by the 1954 Geneva Agreements on Vietnam." The United States agreed to continue its withdrawal of troops, which had started in 1969, leading to a complete withdrawal by March 29, 1973.

-snip-
In 1975... the Northern government (supplied and armed by the Soviet Union and Red China) successfully invaded and conquered the South. Wholesale massacres followed the retreat and withdrawal of U.S. forces, spilling over into neighboring Cambodia in what became known as "the Killing Fields".

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wryter2000

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Fri Nov-25-05 03:47 PM
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6. Thanks

Interesting. I remember that now. Do you think this signals we'll withdraw?

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enigma000

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Fri Nov-25-05 04:18 PM
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7. The Iraqis can use withdrawal as bargaining chip

Edited on Fri Nov-25-05 04:19 PM by enigma000

Some insurgent groups are talking to the government

http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/RWB.NSF/db900SID/VBOL-6JDGQ3?OpenDocument

The insurgents know next month's elections can't be stopped. And it looks like Sunni Arabs will participate in this one, which could undercut the support for the insurgents. The new government can use withdrawal as an incentive and as a threat. An incentive as in: stand down and foreign troops will start to leave. And as a threat: once the Americans pull out, we (the Iraqi government troops and Kurdish and Shia militia) will take the gloves off.

This could be the news we have been waiting for - mind you, nothing will be formalized until the new government is sworn in.

There won't be a 2 month withdrawal period like Vietnam. Even if this happens quickly, some international troops will remain at military bases to continue to train Iraqi security forces. Besides, the Middle East is a tough neighborhood, I expect some troops (10,000?) to stay on military bases there for some time - that the Iraqi people will actually agree too.

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democracy eh

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Fri Nov-25-05 02:30 PM
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3. did they use caller ID?

or *69?

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applegrove

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Fri Nov-25-05 07:29 PM
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9. See - all they had to do was start to talk of leaving and boom - the

insurgents have no enemy and nowhere to go but to sign up if they want access to oil at any time in the future.

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