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WearyOne Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 10:21 AM
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Willis film to show diehard GIs 'fighting for freedom'
Willis film to show diehard GIs 'fighting for freedom'
Sarah Baxter, Washington
November 28, 2005

ANGERED by negative portrayals of the Iraq conflict, actor Bruce Willis is to make a pro-war film in which US soldiers will be depicted as brave fighters for freedom and democracy.

It will be based on the exploits of the heavily decorated members of Deuce Four, the 1st Battalion, 24th Infantry, which has spent the past year battling insurgents in the northern Iraqi town of Mosul.

Willis attended Deuce Four's homecoming ball this month in Seattle, Washington, where the soldiers are on leave, along with Stephen Eads, the producer of Willis's films Armageddon and The Sixth Sense.

The 50-year-old actor said he was in talks about a film of "these guys who do what they are asked to for very little money to defend and fight for what they consider to be freedom". Unlike many Hollywood stars, Willis supports the war and recently offered a $US1million ($1.35million) bounty for the capture of any of al-Qa'ida's most-wanted leaders such as Osama bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri or Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, its commander in Iraq


http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,17383054%255E601,00.html
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 10:24 AM
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1. Whoo-hoo! Another nail in the coffin of this talentless hack's career!
You don't have to dislike him intensely (as I do) to realize how ill-timed this is.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 10:24 AM
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2. Was this dipshit even in the military?
Quick, someone send him some enlistment papers.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 10:32 AM
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7. No! He was a party guy who grew up really close to where I lived
Hey, I'm sure some branch of the Armed Forces would take him...
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 12:16 PM
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38. The Armed Forces are probably paying for the cost of making
this class B flick.

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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 02:42 PM
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51. I said the same thing earlier to a friend of mine.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:40 AM
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142. No surprise, the Army has an x-box killing game out.
.
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JWS Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 03:03 PM
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164. Warning: Plot Spoiler!
Sorry, I just had to give away the plot to the entire movie in case some unwitting DU'er were to waste nine dollars.

here goes:

Bruce Willis holding an M-16, running with sweat glistening on his half naked body and the Middle Eastern sun glowing off his bald head.
Occasionally he shoots and swears.

The End
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 10:26 AM
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3. Oh bah-ruther! Another soldier wannabe. I'd love to hear some real
soldiers' opinions of this guy. He sure does love to play military dress up in his filmsl MKJ
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 10:27 AM
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4. I got a better idea willis, why don't you enlist and go over there
and stop playing in you phoney make believe world


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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 10:42 AM
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10. he tried too back in 01-02, but he was too old then, they'd probably
take him today though, recruitment being what it is.....

"I had been looking for an opportunity to serve my country for a long time. I had mentioned to my friends that I wanted to volunteer as far back as the Gulf War to go into the military. My friends laughed at me and told me I was too old to join and the military wouldn't take me. I looked into it and they were right: I was too old. The idea of serving my country remained in my mind.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:51 AM
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31. Bullshit! He's 50 right now that means he was 35 or 36 in '91
IIRC 35 was the max then, and they can certainly grant waivers. Apparently he asked his "friends", not anyone actually involved in the recruiting process.

So, yeah, Bruce you tried real hard to get in didn't you? Your desire to serve was so strong, you asked your friends about it.

SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU FUCKING CHICKENHAWK PIECE OF SHIT!!
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Conservativesux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:51 PM
Response to Reply #31
112. Willis was too busy making "Die Hard II" to enlist for Iraq War I. nt
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I Miss Bubba Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 06:46 PM
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123. Ugh, we're talking WoT
He tried to enlist after 9/11 but was denied due to age. Try and keep up m'kay?

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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 08:38 PM
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131. What part of "...as far back as the Gulf War"
did I fail to keep up with? That started in January of '91, did it not?
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I Miss Bubba Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 09:11 PM
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136. Willis never spoke about the first Iraq War
If you're going to insult the guy, at least get it right. Or do you believe everything that gets written here as fact? Do some of your own research. Why does it bother you if he does something that isn't how you feel anyway? I find it amusing that probably over 90% of Hollywood is on-the-record anti-Bush, but this one guy wants to do something from the other perspective and he's all of a sudden a crap actor. It's so predictable though.

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Tin Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 07:56 AM
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147. let the record show (from BruceWillis.com, BW's own website)
"I had been looking for an opportunity to serve my country for a long time. I had mentioned to my friends that I wanted to volunteer as far back as the Gulf War to go into the military. My friends laughed at me and told me I was too old to join and the military wouldn't take me. I looked into it and they were right: I was too old."

Let's examine the Gulf War timeline and consider BW's eligibility to enlist at various milestones in that war. Operation Desert Shield (the logistical build-up to what would become Operation Desert Storm, the Gulf War) began in August 1990. Bruce Willis was 35 at the time and eligible for service. Operation Desert Storm (the air campaign over Iraq) began in January 1991 - BW was still 35. Operation Desert Sabre, the ground war phase, began in late February 1991 - BW was still 35. In fact, Bruce Willis was still eligible to enlist at the time of Operation Desert Farewell, which began March 1991.

So the evidence shows BW was a classic chickenhawk - all mouth, no action.
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Tin Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 08:11 AM
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150. maybe "I Miss Bubba" needs to "do some research" of his own?
I Miss Bubba wrote "Willis never spoke about the first Iraq War", when the BW quotation in question clearly refers to the Gulf War.

Does IMB not understand that the first Iraq War and the Gulf War (to which Willis referred in the quotation) are in fact, one and the same?
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 10:51 AM
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158. Thanks TinMan!! Apparently IMB doesn't know a paragraph in italics
means that particular block of text is a quote. Hey IMB, try to keep up, m'kay?
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 09:42 AM
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154. He'd be a crap actor no matter what his views on the war were
The guy can't act. His political viewpoints have nothing to do with it.

And if you'd care to search the archives, when the lists of right-wing people who get paid to act even though they can't come out, they traditionally have Arnold Schwarzenegger, Bruce Willis and Sylvester Stallone on them.

And yes, there are plenty of liberals in Hollywood who can't act--Tom Cruise and John Travolta prominent among them.
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 03:14 PM
Response to Reply #136
168. He's always been a crap actor,
he's a Has-Been and quite frankly I'm tired of looking at him.
They wore him out on film years ago!
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 07:57 AM
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148. "I wanted to volunteer as far back as the Gulf War"....B Willis
Edited on Mon Nov-28-05 07:58 AM by Bridget Burke
I had been looking for an opportunity to serve my country for a long time. I had mentioned to my friends that I wanted to volunteer as far back as the Gulf War to go into the military. My friends laughed at me and told me I was too old to join and the military wouldn't take me. I looked into it and they were right: I was too old.

www.brucewillis.com/difference/

He "wanted" to enlist, but didn't really try.

Edited to add: I just noticed someone else had "done the research."

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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 08:41 AM
Response to Reply #123
151. Oooo. In before pizza!
Or, to use a term more familiar to you. in before the ZOT!!!
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 09:55 AM
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155. Bwaaaaaaah!
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 09:56 AM
Response to Reply #123
156. My, what a little smarmy pants for a newbie
Edited on Mon Nov-28-05 09:56 AM by LostinVA
I went to bed too early last night...
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 01:44 PM
Response to Reply #10
49. then he should be come a mercenairy, er, contractor
if he believes in this cause

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JWS Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 02:58 PM
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161. My philosophy teacher is the same way...
He always postures in front of class saying how he would join the military, but he's just a few years to old. Total demagogue bs, makes me sick, I bet the military would accept him now, i should tell him.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 10:28 AM
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5. He should take the money he'd spend on this testosterone trip
and give it to the people in Walter Reed Hospital.

Just because he rubs up against "Deuce Four" doesn't mean he's a badass. :eyes:
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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 06:10 PM
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121. What's next...boob jobs for soldier's widows?
Maybe you should go visit the troops. Tell them they're doing a good job and helping the country. They need that.

Stateside, we don't need another puff piece. Jessica Lynch and Pat Tillman were all the pro-war crowd had, and neither of those stories were anything but fiction. That's the best they could do for a war that's 2000 soldiers deep. Go figure.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 10:30 AM
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6. Great. Thanks a million, Bruce.
And by the way, is Barry Sadler still alive? Maybe he and Lee Greenwood could do the soundtrack.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 10:55 AM
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15. Destined to be a big hit. Bruce's acting talent, their vast musical skills
Has anyone ever had a voice shriller than Lee Greenwood's? "God bless the YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW EEEEEEEEHHHHHHHSSSSSSSS AAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE."

John Ashcroft's "song," "Let the Mighty Eagle Soar" should be in there somewhere. Phil Gramm, who invested in "Truck Stop Women" "Beauty Queens" and "White House Wedding" could handle the financing.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:34 AM
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23. Excellent suggestions.
'Am being told that I forgot to throw in Toby Keith.

I guess he'd be somewhere in this bunch, too.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:57 AM
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32. Good advice. He'd add that uplifting touch of sophistication.
You can't get enough class in these right-wing projects! It's their special gift.

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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:10 AM
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19. Barry Sadler: Dead since 1989
http://www.sizemoremusic.com/sadler_history.htm

Lee Greenwood, unfortunately is still alive.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:35 AM
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24. Thanks for the update & link. I loved the humor of
your 'unfortunately' with Lee Greenwood. Nancy Reagan evidently loved his music.

And there it is, huh?

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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 10:35 AM
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8. Hey, Bruce: the Fight for Freedom is being fought in
the aisles of Wal-Marts from sea to shining sea, over laptops and Toby Keith CDs and such.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 10:37 AM
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9. Three words for Bruce. Just .fucking. enlist.
to quote Lewis Black on the change of enlistment standards, "That's not a bald spot on his head, it's a fucking solar panel for a killing machine".
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 10:43 AM
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11. Bravo on the reward offer ...
too bad your president doesn't care:

"I don't know where he is. You know, I just don't spend that much time on him... I truly am not that concerned about him." - Press Conference, 3/13/02.
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 10:43 AM
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12. Oh Goody! A Hollywood science-fiction movie! I love those!
Edited on Sun Nov-27-05 10:44 AM by brainshrub
Maybe they can make a bunch of CGI Osama Bin Ladins and WMDs.

ON EDIT: I hope it's better than The 5th Element
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:55 PM
Response to Reply #12
138. Here's a set he can use for his movie
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:23 AM
Response to Reply #138
140. Hahahahahahahahaha!
Edited on Mon Nov-28-05 12:24 AM by brainshrub
LMAO!

Perfect.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 10:48 AM
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13. trivia for "Man vs. Beast" fans
this article mentions the contractor Scott Helveston who died in Fallujah...

Yon, 41, went to Iraq after a friend from high school, Scott Helveston, a former navy Seal, was hanged from a bridge in Fallujah in an incident that shocked the world.




http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4651943/

LOS ANGELES - After serving 12 years in the Navy, Scott Helvenston started a career as a fitness instructor and worked as trainer and stunt man for such movies as “Face/Off” and “G.I. Jane.”

He helped prepare actress Demi Moore for her role as the first woman to join the Navy SEALs in “G.I. Jane,” and appeared on two reality series: “Man vs. Beast” and Burnett’s “Combat Missions.”



http://www.ahafilm.info/movies/moviereviews.phtml?fid=7472

The Seal vs. the Chimp:

The traditional obstacle course used to train Army, Navy and Marine professionals was the setting for this race between a Navy Seal and a Chimpanzee. Two chimps, Jonah and Jacob, were prepped for several days prior to the actual contest and were familiar with the sequence and the obstacles involved. The course consisted of a wooden wall, rope climb, balance beam, netting wall, rope swing, crawl tunnel, wooden wall with a rope climb, and monkey bars. All of the obstacles were well-built and chimp-friendly. The chimp most comfortable and agile on the obstacles was chosen for the on-camera race. Trainers were on hand walking near the chimp and signaling encouragement from the finish line. Since many of these “obstacles” are actually behavioral enrichment to a chimp, it came down to a contest of competitive spirit and speed.
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 10:49 AM
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14. This sounds as ridiculous as
the pathetic 1968 John Wayne Vietnam war movie Green Berets.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:27 AM
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21. It's exactly the same kind of thing
I remember when that movie came out, too. I wonder if Willis' will be as awful?
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ugarte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:42 AM
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29. Yeah, as slow as John Wayne moved
and a bullet still couldn't find his fat ass.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 06:16 PM
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170. maybe Takei can hide in this new star's saddle bags
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 10:57 AM
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16. He is a has been isn't he?



Is timing on this film is somehow a few months late considering the sagging poll numbers of Bush.


If it is to support the troops, he should donate his awesome $$'s for some body armor or sit with their families during the sad times.


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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 10:58 AM
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17. This cements my already low opinion of him - what a tool!
nt
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:03 AM
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18. Nobody is saying our soldiers aren't brave. Key phrase:
"These guys who do what they are asked to for very little money"

It's the administration that is a bunch of chickenhawk cowards who refuse to pay the military decent wages because they are too busy giving tax cuts to haliburton.
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:25 AM
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20. Well I liked "The Kid" alot
Maybe he can put some lipstick on that pig. But I think it's still going to look like a pig and smell like death without any reason other than corporate greed, and whole set of mental disorders in a human chimp with a teeny little alcoholic brain.

Gyre
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:31 AM
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22. GOP Dude of the Week
"If you guys vote for Al Gore, you're out of your minds... Gore's a knucklehead... just the lying and the mendacity of the last eight years of the regime that Al Gore was part and parcel of...

...I mean, there is only so much lying the American people will take before they go, 'Uh, this doesn't seem like a good idea.' You have to look at what he does and what he stands for." - BW

http://www.jerseygop.com/GOP-dude5.html





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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:41 AM
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28. Ole Brucy likes to play w/guns...
Isn't that how he's made all his money?

GOP = GUNS Over PEACE

Dems are anti-guns..

and why Willis's career wouldn't exist !
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 07:24 AM
Response to Reply #22
144. Look he's got a turtle head for a head,he's a turtlehead.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 06:17 PM
Response to Reply #22
171. I want to dip your head in warm oil, and rub it all over my body
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:39 AM
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25. I am so sick of gutless wonders who mythologize the military
and the troops that serve.

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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:40 AM
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26. actors just don't make good republicans.
there's always some fatal flaw.

oh yeah, it's the republican part.
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ugarte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:40 AM
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27. Will it be as funny as that John Wayne classic 'The Green Berets"?
Funniest non-comedy I ever saw.
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nguoihue Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 06:50 AM
Response to Reply #27
143. You got that right
Had just returned from 'Nam prior to viewing it. Laughed through the whole damn thing.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:51 AM
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30. I'm sick and tired of hacks who try to make war look clean.
War is NEVER clean. It's a horrible mess filled with violence and death. There is nothing clean and glamourous about it. Just see (God Bless Them) Greenday's music video for "Wake Me Up When September Ends". The last scene shows (graphically) the real horrors of war. You would never EVER see that come out of Nashville (Country "Music"-devolved).

Willis is another GOP pig. A B-Grade 'actor' who made his millions (easy money)selling violence and death to the masses, just like his fellow PARASITES Arnold Schwarzenegger and Sylvester Stallone (both GOP shills).

Again, why I proudly boycott "artists" who's political views I disagree with.


Bruce, ENLIST if you think the war is so good!!!!


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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 12:08 PM
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33. nominated for the top 10 Idiots
what a tool......
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 12:10 PM
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36. How can I nominate him too?
I want him on tomorrows list.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 12:13 PM
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37. sure, just send an email to
mail@democraticunderground.com and make sure the subject line is "conservative idiot"
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 12:10 PM
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34. Methinks Willis needs to look at the numbers for Wayne's "Green Berets"
Bad movie...horrible showing at the box office...considered a joke today
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 12:10 PM
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35. This guy is really a dullard.
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 12:27 PM
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39. Pssssssssssssttttttttttttttt Bruce................
No one thinks the Gi's and Marines et al dying in Iraq aren't doing the dirty work. Where we disagree is no matter how many of them die it doesn't do a thing to a) ensure our freedom here in America or b)ensure the Iraq people will be able to live in peace.

It's not about wrapping ourselves in the flag and proclaiming our patriotism. But you know what? Talking to those who believe like you is pointless. I pray your film does not influence a young person to join the armed forces.

In the end, you are a shill for multi-national corporatism and wrong thinking American foriegn policy.

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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 12:31 PM
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40. If it comes across as a "rah-rah" cheerleader film,...
...it will do very poorly in the theaters. Most people are fully aware that we're not fighting for anything in Iraq except a chance to lose more people and kill more Iraqis.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 12:35 PM
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41. "heavily decorated.." = don't ask don't tell is revoked???? nt
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 12:53 PM
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42. "...who fight for what they consider to be freedom."
I have a problem with that statement beyond my dislike of Bruce. Are the majority of those fighting in Iraq doing so because they consider this a fight for freedom? Are they there perhaps because it is the position that a corrupt government has put them in?
This isn't a John Wayne movie Bruce. This is an illegal and unpopular war being fought by
the sons and daughters of those who pay to support your obscene tax shelters. Make a movie about the dead,injured,deformed and mentally scarred. Don't glorify this obscenity you POS.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 12:55 PM
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43. Read "Operation Hollywood" - David L. Robb
"How The Pentagon Shapes and Censors Movies"

Pretty interesting.
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 12:57 PM
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44. Willis has his head pretty far up Bush's ass. (n/t)
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 01:01 PM
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45. Why can't he be a real man and actually enlist himself?
Wait. He's like ronald reagan was. Better off not being a real man; but showing others how it's done, is that it?
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 02:44 PM
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52. Reagan was in the military during WW II -- but he stayed Stateside
Unlike Clark Gable, Jimmy Stewart, James Arness, etc.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 01:09 PM
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46. When Rumer Willis turns 18 next year
I wonder if Daddy Bruce is going to encourage her to join the Army and see the world?
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 03:00 PM
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162. I suspect Demi will have none of that.
eom
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 01:10 PM
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47. In the tradition of Chuck Norris and Sylvester Stallone Hollywood rewrites
Edited on Sun Nov-27-05 01:28 PM by fishnfla
an American failure of a war.

Now who is rewriting history?
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 01:37 PM
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48. They're fighting for a LIE - this ILLEGAL WAR OF CHOICE has nothing to do
with "freedom".

Never had, never will.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 02:25 PM
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50. Will it show the sun rising in the west?
As the John Wayne movie, The Green Berets, did?

Quite appropriate, really.
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fshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 02:44 PM
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53. It's been a long while
since GI's have fought for freedom, at least with a definition of freedom on which most would agree. "Freedom" has become a knee-jerk word pulled out each time some shady deal is going down. And if there is a place where freedom would be in dire need to be fought for at tbis point in history, that would be right here. Long live to the 101 who went down south to shut up segregationists! Long live to the GIs who fought against the older version of fascism in Europe!
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 02:45 PM
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54. kick
:kick:
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:27 PM
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55. NewsMax: Bruce Willis in Pro-Iraq War Film
Edited on Sun Nov-27-05 12:57 PM by Barrett808
Outraged by the anti-war bias of the U.S. media, Hollywood star Bruce Willis is planning to produce a new film that tells the story of the bravery of U.S. combat troops in Iraq and their success in liberating the Iraqi people.

"I was over there," Willis recently told MSNBC's Rita Cosby. "I am baffled to understand why the things that I saw happening in Iraq, really good things happening in Iraq, are not being reported on."

Willis' film will be based on the exploits of the highly decorated members of the 1st Battalion, 24th Infantry, known as the "Deuce Four," according to the London Times. The Deuce Four has spent the past year battling terrorists in the northern Iraqi town of Mosul.

Along with Stephen Eads, the producer of "Armageddon" and "The Sixth Sense," Willis attended the unit's homecoming ball this month in Seattle, Washington.

Willis has been to Iraq himself and said he intends to return shortly. "What I saw over there is not reflected in the news whatsoever," he told MSNBC.

"You know, the coalition forces there are getting the power turned back on. They`re getting the schools opened up. They`re getting hospitals opened back up."

(more)

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/11/27/91942.shtml



Also:

Willis film to show diehard GIs 'fighting for freedom'
Sarah Baxter, Washington
November 28, 2005

ANGERED by negative portrayals of the Iraq conflict, actor Bruce Willis is to make a pro-war film in which US soldiers will be depicted as brave fighters for freedom and democracy.

It will be based on the exploits of the heavily decorated members of Deuce Four, the 1st Battalion, 24th Infantry, which has spent the past year battling insurgents in the northern Iraqi town of Mosul.

Willis attended Deuce Four's homecoming ball this month in Seattle, Washington, where the soldiers are on leave, along with Stephen Eads, the producer of Willis's films Armageddon and The Sixth Sense.

The 50-year-old actor said he was in talks about a film of "these guys who do what they are asked to for very little money to defend and fight for what they consider to be freedom". Unlike many Hollywood stars, Willis supports the war and recently offered a $US1million ($1.35million) bounty for the capture of any of al-Qa'ida's most-wanted leaders such as Osama bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri or Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, its commander in Iraq. Willis visited the war zone with his rock and blues band, the Accelerators, in 2003.

(more)

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,17383054%255E31477,00.html


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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:27 PM
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56. send the puke to Iraq
what a pretender. He forgot he was an actor and that he hasn't really seen combat. :puke:
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:27 PM
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57. Hope Bruce does not spend a lot of $$$$
on this.... :rofl:
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:27 PM
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58. Bruce Willis - The John Wayne of our time....
may your film meet the high standard of "The Green Berets".

:sarcasm:
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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88. That movie was infuriating
I suppose this one will be too. It's doubtful that many people will pay ten bucks to see pro-war propaganda, though.

John Wayne ducked WWII, as far as I recall.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 06:30 PM
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122. John Wayne did not serve.
... As Garry Wills tells the story in his book John Wayne's America: The Politics of Celebrity (1997), the Duke faced a tough choice at the outset of World War II. If he wimped out, don't be so sure a lot of us wouldn't have done the same.

At the time of Pearl Harbor, Wayne was 34 years old. His marriage was on the rocks but he still had four kids to support. His career was taking off, in large part on the strength of his work in the classic western Stagecoach (1939). But he wasn't rich. Should he chuck it all and enlist? Many of Hollywood's big names, such as Henry Fonda, Jimmy Stewart, and Clark Gable, did just that. (Fonda, Wills points out, was 37 at the time and had a wife and three kids.) But these were established stars. Wayne knew that if he took a few years off for military service, there was a good chance that by the time he got back he'd be over the hill.

Besides, he specialized in the kind of movies a nation at war wanted to see, in which a rugged American hero overcame great odds. Recognizing that Hollywood was an important part of the war effort, Washington had told California draft boards to go easy on actors. Perhaps rationalizing that he could do more good at home, Wayne obtained 3-A status, "deferred for dependency reasons." He told friends he'd enlist after he made just one or two more movies.

The real question is why he never did so. Wayne cranked out thirteen movies during the war, many with war-related themes. Most of the films were enormously successful and within a short time the Duke was one of America's most popular stars. His bankability now firmly established, he could have joined the military...

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_004.html

I settled for the first source that came along because I already knew he didn't serve.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 07:04 PM
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125. It wasn't so much that Wayne ducked the war, as it was his later behavior
He could see the complexity of his own life and choices as far as service goes, but not recognize the same in others (especially around Viet Nam). He became an icon for a lot of war supporters, yet never acknowledged the contradiction of that (as far as I know). I suspect that he might have been a lot more nuanced about things if he had actually been in the army during wartime, and seen what it was like firsthand.

For what its worth, my dad was about the same age as John Wayne when he enlisted during WWII (1941, Canadian Army). He said his reasons for doing so were complex - social pressure on single men, the depression wasn't really over in a lot of places (including Alberta), distaste for Hitlerism, and simple desire for adventure. Like many of his generation, he grew to hate war but had mixed feelings about the actual experience of WWII.
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fshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 07:47 PM
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130. He became like that
precisely because of the guilt of not having enlisted when it was time. And he felt guilty because he knew that he had chickened out and probably not for noble reasons, or there would not be guilt. It's called over-compensation and you can see it at work with Mr. Willis as well, probably for similar reasons.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 08:58 PM
Response to Reply #125
133. Social pressure on single men
is something I hadn't thought about. Makes sense, though.
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MellowOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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59. He's been a ** supporter since **Sr.
Wouldn't be surprised to find them all buddies.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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60. When your career is dead just bury it Bruce
Anyway, the only fans you have left are too cheap to hit the concession stand and when the distributors see that the release will be fruit fly duration.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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76. I DON'T GET AND WILL NEVER GET THE APPEAL OF THIS MAN!
He's been a big question mark to me since the Moonlighting Days --- WHAT ON EARTH DO PEOPLE SEE IN THIS UGLY, UNTALENTED, SELF-GLORIFYING ASS?
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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77. Agreed.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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61. oh man that reminded me of Jon Stewart's thing on Rita Cosby
it was hilarious.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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68. What was that?
Enquiring minds want to know.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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62. Getting the power "back on", Getting the schools "opened up",
getting the hospitals "opened back up"??? So they were open at one time, tsk tsk tsk Brucey.... your choice of words is poor at best.
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kahleefornia Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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66. yeah. all those places just mysteriously
exploded. No one remembers how or why. But it's a good thing the US of A is there to fix it all up again!! Yay!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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63. Much like saint ronnie, don't expect bruce to go enlist himself either...
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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64. Better than a movie about soldiers in Iraq... go to iraq and be one, Bruce
What a tough guy. Instead of actually enlisting, he's making a movie about being in the military. In Bruce's world, it must be the same thing. Just like in RW world, slapping a yellow ribbon on your car and a flag on your window is the same as supporting the troops.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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65. I see dead Iraqis.
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MellowOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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67. Good one! n/t
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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69. Chief Hollywood Chickenhawk.
Fuck you, Bruce Willis.

Idiot.
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PatrioticLeftie Donating Member (909 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
Response to Reply #55
70. And here I thought he could have been a good Republican
Tsk tsk. A shame, a shame.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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71. What you "saw happening in Iraq" is what they wanted you to see.
What you wanted to see.

I wish I had the awesome power of Republican blinders.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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72. That's a real pity
Seems he can't make a flick anymore unless it has military uniforms in it. Regrettable, because I've enjoyed (most of) his movies- I believe him to be a natural actor of great talent. I'm just embarassed for the recent choices he's made in this arena.

Perhaps he and Arnie boy should get together and reopen Planet Hollywood-- nah... on second thought, they'd just fuck it up all over again...

:evilgrin:
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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100. Natural actor of great talent? Well, one of us is out of his/her mind. n/t
Edited on Sun Nov-27-05 02:16 PM by acmavm
edit: to make it non-gender specific.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:44 PM
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111. Well, if you feel that way about it, we can have you committed
until you're back in your right mind....

(Just kidding... :evilgrin: )

NOT edited to make it non-gender specific, because it's not something I worry too much about.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:54 PM
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115. After the past four days I would consider it a much needed vacation.
When do you think you can have the papers drawn up?
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
Response to Reply #55
73. I always thought Demi Moore was a twit
but now I understand why she broke up with the guy. They are political opposites. I remember her reaction when she saw 911 made People magazine for some reason. (not sure why it should have mattered to anyone) but it is kind of interesting.

Let's hope he at least puts some level of complexity in the film?
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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74. One Problem With "Reporting Good Things:" Dead Reporters
Deadliest war for reporters -- they can't even walk down the street and have a cup of coffee much less report on GWBs new happy-happy bombed out Iraq.

What an idiot.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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75. He's pro-murder. Why does he like killing children?
He knows the children are suffering without medicine.
He knows there's depleted uranium in the soil that has caused birth defects.
He knows Saddam was no threat.
He knows we used cluster bombs.
He knows we are torturing people.
He knows he's doing the world a disfavor.

It'll backfire on him.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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78. Which good things, brucie boy?
The torture?
The mass killing of innocent Iraqi's?
The mass extinction of entire villages and towns?
The continual lies on how everything is just peachy?

I stopped watching or listening to this repuke after Moonlighting went off the air.
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:52 PM
Response to Reply #78
113. re: getting schools opened up.
"They`re getting the schools opened up. They`re getting hospitals opened back up."

Assuming this is true, (which is a bigger leap of faith than I'm willing to make), how does restoring what we destroyed become a symbol of progress?
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
Response to Reply #55
79. Hmmm....2 hours of watching people paint schools?
Sounds like a blockbuster in the making.
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INDIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
Response to Reply #79
82. I had no idea
I'm a younger guy so I had no idea Willis was a Repuke, and I consider myself pretty pop culture savvy. It's kinda funny how the conservatives in Hollywood keep a low profile.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
Response to Reply #82
91. Action stars are more likely to be repukes...
Arnie, Sly, and The Rock are.
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INDIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
Response to Reply #91
93. The Rock?
A Latino from Bethlehem PA is a Republican? Man, money changes people.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
Response to Reply #93
104. Many Latinos are Republican
The Catholic/social conservative thing, I guess.
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INDIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
Response to Reply #104
105. Not in PA they aren't n/t
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 06:09 PM
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119. No, I suspect they are
Most Puerto Ricans are Dems, but many Mexicans and Cubans are Republicans. I'm from Southern NJ, right by Philly, and my whole family still lives there, and they are in these Freeper Catholic political clubs that have loads of Hispanics in them... although very, very few Puerto Ricans.

I suspect the same is a true a few miles over the river in PA.
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 09:18 PM
Response to Reply #119
137. Most Mexicans aren't Republicans
At least in CA they're not. Cubans on the other hand...
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Abathar Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 09:32 AM
Response to Reply #137
153. Most Cubans are republicans because
They have seen what happens when any one side gets too powerful and all balance is lost.
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 09:36 PM
Response to Reply #153
174. Wow, kinda like the Republicans now?
Democrats aren't Communists so there's really no comparison
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 09:57 AM
Response to Reply #137
157. Interesting... most I know are GOP
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 09:35 PM
Response to Reply #157
173. That's really not the case with CA
That's kinda weird actually. I wonder why that's the case
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
Response to Reply #93
108. The Rock is Black and Pacific Islander, not Latino.
Which kind of makes it worse, actually.
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INDIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:52 PM
Response to Reply #108
114. No kidding
best in golf and wrestling? What can't half black half pacific islanders do?
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
Response to Reply #55
80. Try telling your feel-good stories to the thousands dead
And explain to us, oh great-and-wise Bruce, why repainting schools, reopening hospitals, and turning the power back on is such an amazing anaccomplishment, WHEN WE'RE THE REASON THE SCHOOLS, HOSPITALS, AND UTILITIES WERE SHUT DOWN IN THE FIRST PLACE! :argh:

And since when have you or anyone else seen Americans not supporting the troops?
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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81. fallujah.
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INDIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
Response to Reply #81
83. Actually on second thought...
I know that Harrison Ford is starring in a movie about the Marine Corps assault on Fallujah. Isn't he a dem?
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
Response to Reply #83
107. Just because it's about the war doesn't mean its FOR the war nt
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INDIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
Response to Reply #107
109. idunno
ill have to wait and see
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 08:08 AM
Response to Reply #109
149. Harrison Ford is a Democrat
Check out his political contributions:

www.newsmeat.com/celebrity_political_donations/Harrison_Ford.php

War has always been a subject for the arts.


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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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84. Ten bucks says it goes straight to DVD.....
Like that silly counter F9/11 movie.
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rivertext Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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85. Open letter to Bruce,
Edited on Sun Nov-27-05 01:52 PM by rivertext
Bruce,

On the off chance that you are reading DU I wanted to say a film about the courage of our soldiers fighting for each other in the midst of war they really can't comprehend the reasons for could be very great. With a little bit of nuance you have the opportunity to confound us here on DU and your smirking left-wing critics everywhere. Cheerlead for Bush and we'll all chortle with loathsome left-wing arrogance. Do our soldiers proud and astonish us.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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90. He should dramatize the 'suicide' of Col. Ted Westhusing
A Journey That Ended in Anguish (Col. Ted Westhusing's 'suicide' in Iraq)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1950262

I'd pay to see that.
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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86. This is financial suicide
Yes, Willis is a * loving twit but by the time he makes this and gets it released we will be half way home understanding we didn't HELP the Iraq's..People are asking NOW...Why did we go in? The man is a moran.I hope the Feds are financing his war film otherwise someone is going to lose their arse
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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99. The Feds are... US!! (Who's payin' or who's gonna pay?!?)
Have-more's?!?

No.

Have-lesses & have-not's (as usual with the "Worst-than-Enron" criminals in charge).

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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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102. True..Whether we like it or not
the feds have money in their budget for the prapaganda machine..it would be a great recruiting tool:sarcasm:
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drdtroit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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87. Will he depict the napalming of the bridges to Baghdad
that melted buses and trains full of civilians? Or how about the firestorms of white phosphorous in Fallujah?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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89. This must be a ploy to get enlistment ratings up, 'eh? Bought
and paid for by the U.S. Service Forces. Another class "B" flick.
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Southsideirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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92. So whose stopping him from enlisting?
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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94. What does the soldiers' bravery have to do with the ethics of an invasion?
Willis sounds like he's losing brain cells with each follicle of hair.
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:59 PM
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116. that's exactly it.
opposition to the occupation has nothing to do with the troops' bravery. Who doubted the bravery of the US troops?

Oh well, I suppose it's best not to pay too much attention to the half-wit movie promotions that emerge. This sounds like the politicization of The Passion of the Christ that emerged during the run-up to the war - it became a "republican" movie.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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95. Bruce knows...
It is more important to be macho than it is to be right.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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96. "Colonel Bubp and The Yellow Elephant Brigade"
When Democrats speak out against the war he's avoiding Colonel Bubp (Bruce Willis) drops his stapler and swings into action, typing a memo he'll later deny to his comrade in non-arms, Mean Jean Schmidt (animatronics by Stan Winston)....

Special appearance by 300 lbs of Smithfield lard as Dennis Hastert....
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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97. why are we "turning the power back on" two FUCKING YEARS LATER?
answer: because we've done a shitty job, and spent billions on corrupt contractors who haven't done anything.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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101. Oh, I disagree
Edited on Sun Nov-27-05 02:17 PM by alcibiades_mystery
We're closing in on THREE FUCKING YEARS LATER...

;-)
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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103. in may of 2003, they claimed to be "making good progress"
and said it should all be functional by the end of the summer.

making good progress. My god, that's one phrase I hope goes down with the Bushies. What empty lies.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 07:43 PM
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128. Note that it actually wasn't/isn't "progress" anyway
they were and are merely RESTORING what THEY had DESTROYED when they were 'shocking and awing' Iraq :eyes:
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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98. Didn't this douchebag recently offer $1 million reward for OBL?
Perhaps never having been told that the US gov't reward is currently at $50 million? :rofl:

He's like DR. Evil: One MILLION dollars!

Yeah, so you can imagine the jihadist who may think about turning on OBL saying...the $50 million from the US government won't induce me to spill the beans, but with $51 million? I have to make a phone call!

Put plainly, the man is a fucking idiot.
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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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106. I can see it now ... Bruce as brave Lt. Johnson, a battle-weary Marine
who single-handedly takes out the entire Iraq cell of AQ. As he slowly pulls the trigger on the last of the terrorists, he hisses "You ain't stoppin' Democracy, pal."

On the way back to base, he stops at the orphanage and hands out candy to the children, who gaze up at him with love and adoration.

Whatta guy that Bruce!


Now every stateside chickenhawk can have the thrill of being there --without the actual danger and everything. Cool!



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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 04:00 PM
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117. You ain't stoppin' Democracy, pal."
:spray:
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 07:44 PM
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129. Well you kid, but uh, that's what it'll really be!
Edited on Sun Nov-27-05 07:44 PM by NYC Liberal
;)
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 03:28 PM
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110. Wanna bet this film never gets made?
Ol' publicity hound Bruce, his career pretty much over...
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 05:37 PM
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118. Tell his fans about it
Edited on Sun Nov-27-05 06:00 PM by guruoo
Edit: Fixed link to Yahoo Movies message board

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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 06:09 PM
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120. OK...let's play the casting game
Since this is obviously "The Green Berets '05", let's run down the cast updates:

John Wayne's role - Bruce Willis
The Vietnamese Orphan - Dakota Fanning in brown makeup and a veil


any others?
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 07:34 AM
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145. David Janssen's role....
...as the reporter - Jeff Gannon.
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 06:57 PM
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172. Haley Joel Osment
As the plucky new recruit killed by the damn godless A-rabs. Oh, and don't forget Michael Clark Duncan as the burly, battle hardened sarge with the heart 'o gold. He carries a minigun for obliterating godless A-rabs.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 06:57 PM
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124. Sounds like they will be focusing on that Deuce Four group only
Edited on Sun Nov-27-05 06:58 PM by rainbow4321
Which doesn't seem like it is very representative of what is happening over there to our troops.
Note this one interview with that blogger mentioned in the Australian article from the OP..saying how the group of soldiers that he used to be hit w/ I.E.D's twice a day and now it has been 2 weeks since the last IED...um, ok..funny how we hear EVERYday about IED related deaths. Hey, let's find a group of soldiers that only gets bombed like twice a month and make people believe all is good, no soldiers are dying every day.


http://www.blogsforbush.com/mt/archives/005194.html

Hugh Hewitt interviewed freelance Iraq war reporter Michael Yon Friday, and Radio Blogger has the transcript. Here's a portion of the interview:

http://www.radioblogger.com/archives/august.html#000926


HH: Are Americans getting a distorted view about how the war is going?

MY: Absolutely. Clearly, you're getting mostly body counts and bombings and that sort of thing, which are very real. I mean, I see those things here. They absolutely occur. We fight here every day. But what they don't see is that we fight less and less here every day. For instance, Deuce 4 has not been hit with an I.E.D. in about two weeks. We used to get hit like twice a day. Now, it's been like two weeks, and we have not been hit at all. So, you know what I'm saying?

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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 07:39 PM
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126. That should make him a ton of money
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 07:41 PM
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127. Our guys - and girls - are brave fighters.
That's beside the point, Bruce.
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fshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 09:01 PM
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134. They're just like anybody else.
Not particularly good, not particularly bad, not particularly brave. I suspect most of them got in it for reasons having nothing to do with Irap, terrorism or whatever. They'll be able to buy themselves a house with what they earned when they come back. The rest is virtual reality.
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evworldeditor Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 08:58 PM
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132. It's John Wayne's 'Green Beret' fiasco all over again.
Would someone please send Bruce a copy of Howard Zinn's "A People's History of the United States"? Maybe it'll tone him down a bit.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 09:05 PM
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135. What negative portrayals?
America is propaganda central.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 12:05 AM
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139. Janice Joplin's definition of FREEDOM?
Let's stop playing child's games. Who here doesn't know what freedom is? I expect Mr. Willis to prance right on down to Main Street, Baghdad, and start living his new life of FREEDOM. If it's so good he wants to make a movie about it, then why not walk the walk. Go, Bruce. Go. Prove to us just how free this freedom is. We want more than words. Phoney words. Twisted words. George Bush words.

Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose.

You empty slob.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 01:35 AM
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141. Al-Zarqawi is the commander in Iraq?
Did he get a promotion?
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 07:47 AM
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146. Didn't this nimrod give $1,000,000 in gifts to boy singer Aaron Carter? I
guess offering more than that to get Bin Laden killed is supposed to make him look like a big manly-man type man man instead of the creepy old pediopheliac-crush guy everyone on Earth knows him to be? Oh,look,Bruce,that soldier over there looks like Aaron Carter in a uniform!Ooh!Ooh!HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
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Bombero1956 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 09:09 AM
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152. Bill Maher nailed him
in his book

“New Rule – When actors volunteer for war, take them. In a gesture of immense emptiness, Bruce Willis called President Bush and offered to go fight in Iraq. President Bush told him it was unlikely to happen, but they’d get back to him if they couldn’t find Vin Diesel.”

I would tell Brucie Boy to put his money where his mouth is, donate every penny after expenses directly to help soldiers injured in Iraq.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:05 AM
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159. Another film that the fundies and the armchair generals
can wank themselves stupid for! Oh joy! :sarcasm:
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JWS Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 02:55 PM
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160. Willis has always been a whack-off anyways...
And he doesn't tip well either.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 03:00 PM
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163. The soldiers ARE brave....
the "leaders" are chicken shits.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 03:03 PM
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165. Another Hack Exposes Himself
He's such an arrogant asshole.
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 03:07 PM
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166. I am gald I am free to NOT go see this...
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 03:09 PM
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167. Bruce Willis, what a Fucking Brown-noser.
Must be because he's in that wealthiest 1%.
Let's call him Tax-Break Willis! :sarcasm:
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Gelliebeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 06:05 PM
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169. Sorry Bruce.
We aren't interested in your over-hyped career so STFU, pretty please.
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