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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 06:09 PM
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(Ted) Turner says Iraq 'no better off' after U.S.-led war

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/local/13277609.htm

Turner says Iraq 'no better off' after U.S.-led war

Associated Press


MANHATTAN, Kan. - Media mogul Ted Turner said Monday that Iraq is "no better off" following the U.S.-led invasion that ousted dictator Saddam Hussein in 2003.

Delivering the 141st Landon Lecture at Kansas State University, Turner said the world is at a "critical juncture" and compared the situation to that of a baseball team down two runs in the seventh inning.

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Turner said the situation in Iraq is serious but not hopeless. He raised concerns about global overpopulation, poverty and hunger.

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Turner said war is an outdated form of diplomacy that has stopped working.

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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 06:11 PM
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1. I wouldn't call war a type of diplomacy, but he's right, it doesn't work
If anything, it's the ANTITHESIS of diplomacy and the method of settling disputes favored by bullies, including the AssHat-In-Chief.
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 06:16 PM
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2. Finally someone is saying that
Iraq and the world are worse off because the US started this war. I'm so sick of people saying everyone is better off without Saddam. Kerry himself said it last year.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 06:26 PM
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3. it's far worse off....
We need to face the truth-- Iraq was MUCH better off under Saddam Hussein's leadership than it is under the American occupation or is likely to be under an Iran style Shi'a theocracy.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 06:32 PM
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4. The total destruction of a country and its people can never lead to......
anything good, specially in the short term.
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bambo53 Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 06:51 PM
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5. Howard Dean said the same thing
basically, during the primaries, and Democratic party leaders divorced themselves from him for it. How dare he...

How long before Donna Brazile, Bob Shrum, Joe Lieberman, John Kerry, Joe Biden and the rest of our wonderful "leaders" savage Mr. Turner for daring to speak the truth?
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 07:01 PM
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6. "He raised concerns about global overpopulation"
Don't worry, Ted, Bush has a plan for that problem :sarcasm:
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 07:43 PM
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7. Help me out here - wasn't Ted Turner
a big Bush supporter during both "elections"?

Or is Ted just a big rat that's surfacing, now that S.S. Bush is sinking?
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 08:07 PM
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8. no - Ted has always supported environmental causes
Edited on Mon Nov-28-05 08:08 PM by xxqqqzme
& has had a hand in over population issues - He was the one who 'gave' one, wasn't it, billion dollars to the UN.

Imagine how different it would be if he still owned CNN!
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joefree1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 11:56 PM
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10. Not likely, read this
Fox News 'propaganda' says mogul
CNN founder Ted Turner attacked US TV network Fox News on Tuesday, labelling it "propaganda" for its stance towards the Bush administration.
Turner also likened the network's current popularity to Adolf Hitler's rise to power in 1930s Germany.
edit ...
Mr Turner also attacked "gigantic companies whose agenda goes beyond broadcasting" for not criticising the Bush administration enough.
more ...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/4211395.stm

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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-28-05 09:16 PM
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9. and CNN is a lot worse since you left
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sleipnir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 01:45 AM
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11. Top 10 reasons why the shit is on the floor today. #8...
Ted Turner relinquishes control of CNN, a once proud bastian of journalistic integrity. Now it is nothing more than the gentler version of Fox News.
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