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Eugene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 05:02 AM Original message |
Venezuelan opposition quit poll |
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ugarte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
1. Picking up their marbles and going home |
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Sandpiper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
2. Of course the result will be biased against you |
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foflappy (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 01:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. How would you feel |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 01:42 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. A "protest" that is more than likely backed by the U. S. NeoCon Junta.... |
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foflappy (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 01:50 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. I was not aware that the US Constitution was negated |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 01:52 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Do your own research. I pointed you in the right direction.... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 12:22 AM Response to Reply #17 |
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foflappy (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 11:42 AM Response to Reply #95 |
102. I am unaware of the negation of the US constitution |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 02:05 PM Response to Reply #102 |
120. Here you go: |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 02:23 PM Response to Reply #120 |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 02:35 PM Response to Reply #128 |
133. Did you check all 1 million links? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 02:46 PM Response to Reply #133 |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 01:47 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. First off, the Constitution was decided upon by a referendum... |
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Kralizec (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 02:14 PM Response to Reply #4 |
24. What are you talking about? Nothing of the sort took place. |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
69. We should pay attention, |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 02:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
150. No, this is an attempt to make legitimate elections look illegitimate. -nt |
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foflappy (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
3. Maybe the world will take a closer look.... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 01:33 PM Response to Reply #3 |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 01:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. I agree with you |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 01:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Pleace cite his court stacking methods and free speech restrictions. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 01:45 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. He wants to expand the amount of Judges on the Supreme Court... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 01:46 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Thanks, Solon... |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 02:11 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. oh, really. what about the "insult" law?? |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 02:20 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. also worth highlighting |
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Flanker (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 02:21 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. I oppose that law but mostly on the puishment side |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 02:29 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. there is no reason for the law period... |
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Flanker (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 02:41 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. Why? |
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smb (761 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:07 PM Response to Reply #37 |
61. WTF?? |
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Flanker (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:11 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Go ahead and and set one up for slander too |
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Centered (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 05:58 PM Response to Reply #61 |
80. LOL |
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foflappy (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 01:46 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. They have been posted before |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 01:48 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. To be honest I wouldn't mind having more judges on the SCOTUS |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 02:02 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. Actually that's incorrect... |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 01:57 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. The problem is that both those sites talk about... |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 02:14 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Here's a good reference to the court reform: |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 02:31 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. here is a better link that does not attempt to sugar coat |
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Flanker (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 02:44 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. That is valid |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 12:26 AM Response to Reply #30 |
96. Ahh - back to the root of your cause - defending bunkerboy & all the other |
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foflappy (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 12:19 PM Response to Reply #96 |
105. Please explain the logic that says |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 02:32 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Okay now I'm bordering on not even bothering checking |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 02:35 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. right, just cherry pick the news you want to hear |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 02:38 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Why read news that's based on lies? n/t |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 02:39 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. you mean you don't believe that Venezuela has insult laws?? n/t |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 02:46 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. First I've heard of them. |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 02:49 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. I posted a link, other latin countries have had them in the past |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 02:50 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Where did you post the link? |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 02:54 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. timely link |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 03:00 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Interesting... |
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Flanker (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 03:05 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. None |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 03:19 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Fascinating. |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 03:33 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. yeah, its odd that the Venezuelan government would waste their |
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Flanker (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 03:36 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Or perhaps they plan to use it to fry the big fish |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 03:47 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. so did a certain president of Venezuela we know |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 03:57 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. So did our founding fathers. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:32 PM Response to Reply #58 |
72. Yep, here's the timeline showing the terrifying, monsterous criminality |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:54 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. God bless you, Judi Lynn. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 03:56 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. Please cite the strengthening. |
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Flanker (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 03:34 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Perhaps because they are absolutists |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:07 PM Response to Reply #52 |
62. Thanks |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 02:30 PM Response to Reply #52 |
130. This IS beyond dispute: |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 02:18 PM Response to Reply #20 |
126. I agree 100%. |
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digno dave (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 03:24 PM Response to Reply #8 |
49. i love it when people come on here and defend Chavez |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 03:55 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. I've never seen one speech. |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:06 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. you are fortunate then |
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Flanker (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:15 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. It might be worse to base opinions on speeches |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 07:12 PM Response to Reply #64 |
85. Plus stupid... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:20 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. Are our stations not required |
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Flanker (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:25 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. I don't think so |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 05:09 PM Response to Reply #68 |
77. Eh, no matter, they all show them anyway. |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:10 PM Response to Reply #49 |
161. I do too |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 12:40 AM Response to Reply #8 |
99. And as for the property issues, he is only returning property that was |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 12:41 PM Response to Reply #99 |
106. Exactly. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:54 PM Response to Reply #6 |
201. Ooops. Your friend is no longer with us. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 01:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Please cite which proposed reforms would form a single party. |
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Flanker (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 01:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
15. Look closer |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 01:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
16. I don't think you have a clue about what you're posting. Questions for... |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 03:15 PM Response to Reply #3 |
47. Haven't you noticed that we are on the brink of a civil war, here ? |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
67. You said you hate Bush foflappy, got any examples of where |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 07:10 PM Response to Reply #67 |
84. Still waiting flappy |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 01:25 PM Response to Reply #84 |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 02:32 PM Response to Reply #109 |
131. Just anything here at DU or a copy of one of your LTTE's |
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loudsue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
19. Good news/bad news: Chavez is learning from the RNC playbook - that's |
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Dark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:45 PM Response to Reply #19 |
75. I'd much rather the Dems start learning a thing or two from the Repubs n/t |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
22. This is tricky for me |
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Flanker (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 02:16 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Not everything is black and white |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 02:36 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. Teodoro Petkoff has been an editor & director of a wildly anti-Chavez |
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Flanker (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 02:52 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. Actually |
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confludemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:28 PM Response to Reply #42 |
70. So with a fraudulent act of that magnitude, you say he's "reasonable"? |
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Flanker (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:37 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. Because Petkoff could be worse |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:31 PM Response to Reply #73 |
182. Yeah, he could be "worse". He could be a leftist. |
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Guy Whitey Corngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:51 PM Response to Reply #182 |
199. Actually the guy (Petkoff) claims to be just that. I think you misread |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 02:33 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. that is good that you are discovering underlying issues |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 02:53 PM Response to Reply #32 |
43. I think most people consider the sources of the anti-Chavez rhetoric.... |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 03:55 PM Response to Reply #43 |
55. Rhetorical question... |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 05:54 PM Response to Reply #55 |
79. Actually, I would slam any domestic group that critisized Bush... |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 06:32 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. As would I... |
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Flanker (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 06:57 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. The election is fair |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 07:28 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. I'm not implying the elections aren't fair |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 07:08 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. They accepted NED money during the recall election... |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 07:42 PM Response to Reply #83 |
89. Yes, clearly this is illegal |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 09:36 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. Actually not senators... |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 11:00 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. Thanks... |
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Flanker (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 12:14 AM Response to Reply #90 |
94. I think there is a misconception here |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 02:11 PM Response to Reply #94 |
124. Actually your right... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 12:17 PM Response to Reply #83 |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 01:04 PM Response to Reply #104 |
107. OK, that's pure idiocy... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 01:23 PM Response to Reply #107 |
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Flanker (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 01:31 PM Response to Reply #108 |
111. There is a major difference |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 01:54 PM Response to Reply #111 |
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Flanker (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:12 PM Response to Reply #114 |
165. Aid money |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 01:52 PM Response to Reply #108 |
113. it does no harm... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 01:59 PM Response to Reply #113 |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 02:09 PM Response to Reply #119 |
122. Please explain how Venezuela has bought the Massachusetts electorate. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 02:18 PM Response to Reply #122 |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 02:15 PM Response to Reply #123 |
125. You seem to think its better for people to freeze to make a political... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 02:29 PM Response to Reply #125 |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 02:36 PM Response to Reply #129 |
135. Coup plotters are democratic? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 02:50 PM Response to Reply #135 |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:01 PM Response to Reply #145 |
154. You mean like the TV news there... |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 02:36 PM Response to Reply #123 |
134. I really don't have a problem with this |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:06 PM Response to Reply #22 |
59. Did she go into detail about the human rights concerns? |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
50. Chavez is practically a dictator now |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:22 PM Response to Reply #50 |
66. How is he "pratcially a dictator"? |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:28 PM Response to Reply #50 |
71. What kind of dictator helps the poor?? What kind of |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 07:33 PM Response to Reply #71 |
88. Castro who says he helps the poor too |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 02:38 PM Response to Reply #88 |
136. Here we go mr. Bacchus. You ignore the hard facts about Cuba |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 02:40 PM Response to Reply #136 |
137. no, I don't agree at all |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 02:47 PM Response to Reply #137 |
143. Are you saying that 45 years of unrelenting |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 02:55 PM Response to Reply #143 |
148. didn't you say the US was responsible for Castro's crackdown?? |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:12 PM Response to Reply #148 |
166. Baccus, Bacchus, Bacchus. Just anwer the question I asked above. |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:15 PM Response to Reply #166 |
168. sure, it "affects" Cuba |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:21 PM Response to Reply #168 |
174. The US doesn't seem to ask that from China, Saudi Arabia, |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 06:51 PM Response to Reply #174 |
226. Excellent point. Fear of Cuba or Venezuela is fear of |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:25 PM Response to Reply #168 |
176. How can the US or you or anybody demand that a country |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:37 PM Response to Reply #176 |
186. so there is no right or wrong and no one has any business |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 06:06 PM Response to Reply #186 |
222. Regime change begins at home. "Put your own house in |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 06:17 PM Response to Reply #222 |
223. You'll never hear these words applied to Bush's legacy: |
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Flanker (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:30 PM Response to Reply #168 |
180. That is pretty naive |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:32 PM Response to Reply #180 |
183. I would say yes. but Castro won't allow that to happen |
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Flanker (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:39 PM Response to Reply #183 |
188. Then you are naive |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 04:22 PM Response to Reply #188 |
209. not so sure, Iraq had an embargo and they have lots |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:44 PM Response to Reply #88 |
192. The poverty rate in Venezuela is in DECLINE. |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 04:38 PM Response to Reply #50 |
74. And I am practically a martian. |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 05:21 PM Response to Reply #50 |
78. Why do you believe Castro is a "bad guy"? Is it because the.... |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 07:26 PM Response to Reply #78 |
86. Or is it because... |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 09:47 PM Response to Reply #86 |
91. I'm not a particular supporter of Castro myself... |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-30-05 11:02 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. Chavez is making a good political move... |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 12:34 AM Response to Reply #50 |
97. Dictator? Really? By what standards, other than Chavez haters such as |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 02:59 PM Response to Reply #50 |
152. How interesting. The opposition has the power to MAKE him a dictator |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 12:36 AM Response to Original message |
98. Boy, they are all comming out of the woodwork today, aren't they! |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 01:39 AM Response to Reply #98 |
100. Must be! |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 04:10 AM Response to Original message |
101. American LTTE concerning William Delahunt's & Chavez's oil deal |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 12:15 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. Deleted message |
Flanker (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 01:29 PM Response to Reply #103 |
110. Wait a second. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 01:34 PM Response to Reply #110 |
112. Deleted message |
Flanker (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:05 PM Response to Reply #112 |
156. You still did not answer |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 01:54 PM Response to Reply #110 |
115. As you recognize, everything about the deal was ethical. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 01:58 PM Response to Reply #115 |
116. Deleted message |
Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 02:01 PM Response to Reply #116 |
118. Please explain how the poor of Massachusetts, who desperately |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 02:34 PM Response to Reply #118 |
132. Deleted message |
Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 02:41 PM Response to Reply #132 |
138. Then why support the opposition in Venezuela? |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 02:44 PM Response to Reply #138 |
140. Chavez did too |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 02:52 PM Response to Reply #140 |
147. Actually, if you want to get technical... |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 02:57 PM Response to Reply #147 |
151. actually it was two party rule |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:05 PM Response to Reply #151 |
155. The point being... |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:09 PM Original message |
besides the ones I posted earlier |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
173. There is no evidence that Chavez encouraged or was personally... |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:29 PM Response to Reply #173 |
178. hah!! are you kidding?? |
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Flanker (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:35 PM Response to Reply #178 |
185. There is a difference between corruption and justice |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:43 PM Response to Reply #178 |
190. From the FAQ of Transparency International themselves... |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:51 PM Response to Reply #190 |
200. So predictable! Wow. This never fails to disgust a person, no matter how |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:55 PM Response to Reply #200 |
202. I don't trust any source about surveys, especially international ones... |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 04:10 PM Response to Reply #200 |
207. travel article on Venezuela |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 04:31 PM Response to Reply #207 |
210. Ah, you've chosen an article by that foremost Venzuela authority, |
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Guy Whitey Corngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 04:35 PM Response to Reply #210 |
211. Whaaaaa? NY Times people acting unethically? Surely you jest. n/t |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 04:40 PM Response to Reply #211 |
213. you are free to do your own research on crime in Caracas |
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Guy Whitey Corngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 04:42 PM Response to Reply #213 |
214. I don't need to do research on the crime in Caracas. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 05:05 PM Response to Reply #213 |
218. If a liar writes an article, it would be silly to read it, obviously. n/t |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 05:28 PM Response to Reply #213 |
220. I don't want to jump to hasty conclusions, but do you think there's any |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 04:35 PM Response to Reply #210 |
212. so you don't think crime in Caracas is a problem??? |
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Flanker (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 04:44 PM Response to Reply #212 |
215. Why do you jump so much from topic to topic? |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 04:57 PM Response to Reply #215 |
217. I've read that the mayor of Caracas is a determined Chavez foe. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 04:54 PM Response to Reply #212 |
216. I know it's bad. Someone there murdered the prosecuting attorney |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 05:20 PM Response to Reply #212 |
219. If crime in Caracas is Chavez's fault, & not the mayor's responsibility, |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 04:08 PM Response to Reply #190 |
205. lets see, business people who must undertake business |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 06:45 PM Response to Reply #205 |
224. Just saying that if it were the farmers who participate in the co-ops... |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
181. The article you mentioned does NOT hold Hugo Chavez's goverment |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:09 PM Response to Reply #140 |
159. Chavez led a coup against a man who ordered his military to massacre |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:16 PM Original message |
120 people killed in 2 coups attempts |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
206. I haven't looked into this, yet, to determine how many were killed, & why. |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:16 PM Response to Reply #140 |
169. Heck, George Washington and rest |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:18 PM Response to Reply #169 |
170. I see, so another self righteous political leader |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:24 PM Response to Reply #170 |
175. LOL, the motives of the opposition was to protect their pocketbooks... |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:27 PM Response to Reply #170 |
177. Proof is in the pudding Bacchus, proof is in the pudding. |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:30 PM Response to Reply #177 |
179. ahh, thanks for fullfilling your promise |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 05:56 PM Response to Reply #179 |
221. Your're welcome. Good to see you getting a little more polite |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 02:06 PM Response to Reply #116 |
121. Wait a second... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 02:42 PM Response to Reply #121 |
139. Deleted message |
Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 02:44 PM Response to Reply #139 |
141. So politicians and volunteer workers shouldn't do anything? |
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Guy Whitey Corngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 02:48 PM Response to Reply #141 |
144. This dude has a very weird fixation with Mr Chavez. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 02:56 PM Response to Reply #144 |
149. The thing that gets me is this... |
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Guy Whitey Corngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:00 PM Response to Reply #149 |
153. At this point from what I've seen in this thread, it's just grasping for |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:10 PM Response to Reply #141 |
162. There is a line of political thought that says helping the poor is evil. |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:21 PM Response to Reply #139 |
171. So politicians should not be chosen based on merit? |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 02:51 PM Response to Reply #103 |
146. Pure politics?? Tell that to the people who keep from freezing |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:07 PM Response to Reply #103 |
157. HOLY. FUCKING. SHIT. |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:11 PM Response to Reply #157 |
163. What does a Brazilian know about South America? |
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Guy Whitey Corngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:12 PM Response to Reply #163 |
164. Yeah no shit. I mean if at least he had a Venezuelan girlfriend, them |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:21 PM Response to Reply #164 |
172. I got into it with a girl once who spoke about her Venezuelan boyfriend |
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Guy Whitey Corngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:34 PM Response to Reply #172 |
184. I used to get into it with them (both Vens and significant others) all |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:42 PM Response to Reply #184 |
189. The have's are afraid of the havenot's |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:39 PM Response to Reply #157 |
187. Deleted message |
ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:44 PM Response to Reply #187 |
191. You are priceles |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:46 PM Response to Reply #191 |
193. Deleted message |
K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:46 PM Response to Reply #193 |
195. Since when do liars fail? EOM |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:47 PM Response to Reply #191 |
196. Exceedingly. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:51 PM Response to Reply #191 |
198. OK, another one down... |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:55 PM Response to Reply #198 |
203. Just doin' our duty! |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 04:07 PM Response to Reply #198 |
204. They don't call me... |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 04:17 PM Response to Reply #204 |
208. You and ChavezSpeakstheTruth just might get audited, or hacked soon! |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 06:50 PM Response to Reply #208 |
225. Hah! |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:46 PM Response to Reply #187 |
194. If only everyone in the world agreed with you eh? EOM |
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Guy Whitey Corngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:49 PM Response to Reply #187 |
197. How about now? |
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:07 PM Response to Reply #103 |
158. Hahahahaha! You make me laugh! Good thinking, Tex |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:09 PM Response to Reply #103 |
160. By that logic, |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 03:13 PM Response to Reply #160 |
167. Maybe they could |
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happydreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
227. What I must know..... |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-01-05 10:41 PM Response to Reply #227 |
228. Kick. We need to hear that answer! |
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