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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 06:17 PM
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‘Iraqis want Saddam to run for election’

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2005%5C12%5C01%5Cstory_1-12-2005_pg4_14

‘Iraqis want Saddam to run for election’

AMMAN: Iraqis have asked Saddam Hussein’s defence team to mull the possibility of fielding the ousted dictator as a candidate for future elections, one of his lawyers said in remarks published on Wednesday.

“Iraqis have asked the defence team to study the legal conditions to present Saddam Hussein as a candidate for elections, first as an MP then as president,” Jordan’s Al-Dustour daily quoted former Qatari justice minister Najib al-Nuaimi as saying.

“If this contradicts the legal system then president Saddam will be nominated simply as a candidate,” he said, without specifying if Saddam could try to run in the December 15 election.


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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 06:23 PM
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1. Who are "Iraqis"???
Could be as few as two Baathists for all I know.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 06:24 PM
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2. indeed, seems kind of like Bush talk....
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domlaw Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 06:30 PM
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4. No I'd believe it:
Imagine if you were a Sunni under Saddam and life was O.K., not great but livable (you don't give a crap about the Kurds or Shiites) and then along comes the US and blows the Sh**t out of your country, kills your friends and relatives and pretty well makes a bad situation a hell of alot worse. Saddam aint looking so bad anymore

Yep I believe it, that's what it's come to. When you know Saddam looks better than you, you've got some explaining to do.

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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 04:32 AM
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11. These days even some Shiites would vote for him.
Saddam didn't manage to kill anywhere near as many of them than have
died under the tender protective care of the "Coalition for Democracy".
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 10:48 AM
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13. Not to mention the majority had (a) running water; (b) electricity;
(c) serviceable medical facilities; and (d) civil calm and general order. Iraq is NOT better off under US rule. It's an undisputed fact. I guarantee in a free, fair, country-wide election, saddam would win.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 11:07 AM
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15. " I guarantee in a free, fair, country-wide election, saddam would win."
Based upon what? The 75% of the country that aren't Sunni hate Saddam. Hell, even some of the Sunnis hate Saddam (he wasn't universally nice to them.)

And even if Saddam were to somehow be elected at this point, the violence wouldn't stop. He's lost the network of operatives that kept him in power. He was barely keeping a lid on the racial tensions in Iraq before the war, and you can't put that genie back into the box just by electin Saddam.

If what you meant to say is that, given the choice between "the way things used to be" and "the way things are now" then I think the former would probably win. But that option doesn't exist any more.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 11:21 AM
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16. I do think saddam would win
Yes, the choice should probably be the way things used to be versus the way things are now. However, I believe the US now is hated as much or more as saddam. They knew he was a murdering despot. We came in liberator's clothing. It is painfully obvious to EVERYONE that our intentions were not entirely honorable and our rationale was a sack of lies. And no longer can the traditional battle/religious lines be drawn between Shia and Sunni. Remember the neocons thought they could never be united and that would be a key to our maintaining power. Boy were they wrong. The Shias and Sunnis have been able to agree and unite somewhat behind one common cause: the hatred against the American imperialistic invaders.

And I never said the violence would stop. You're right, that genie was not only let out of the bottle, the bottle was smashed against a brick wall.

I say let saddam run. I think we'd all be shocked.

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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 11:35 AM
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17. Run against whom?
He's probably the first or second most hated man in the country (Bush being the other.) A toad could run against him and win.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 11:55 AM
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20. sign that toad up
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StrafingMoose Donating Member (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 11:38 AM
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18. I'd say "Iraqis" may be some of these old Reaganites

Who liked Saddam so much...

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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 06:26 PM
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3. Can you imagine?
Such spinning from BushCo would shake the very planet off its orbit and into the sun.
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Hyernel Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 06:30 PM
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5. Saddam could run as the anti-torture candidate....
...compared to what Bushco "democracy" has given them. Karl Rove would launch "Torturing Dictators for Truth" to swiftboat him!!

:evilgrin:
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 06:36 PM
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6. That sounds like a campaign strategy doomed for failure.
:eyes:
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cureautismnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 06:42 PM
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7. I dare any reporter to ask ...
... anyone in this misadministration if they would allow SH to be on ANY future Iraqi ballot.

:rofl:
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Sweet Pea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 06:50 PM
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8. Be kinda hard to
run a campaign when you are either a) in the docket or b) swingin' from a yardarm, which is where I think ol' Saddam will be in about 6 months or so.
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ovidsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 07:10 PM
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10. There's precedent. Sort of.
A West Bank Palestinean won a local election in Israel's West Bank last weekend. He was on the ballot even though he's serving a life sentence. This is from al-Jazeera's web page:

Marwan Al-Barghuthi, 46, is seen as a potential successor to Abbas even though he is serving five life terms in an Israeli prison for involvement in attacks that killed five Israelis, a role he denies.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/A37509B7-B895-485E-A8EE-70C288F7660F.htm

I'm not endorsing the Saddam Hussein for Parliament campaign quite yet, but wouldn't it be interesting if he were allowed to run?
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 07:07 PM
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9. He could run a "chicken in every pot" campaign..except he'd
promise regular electrical service ....
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cosmicone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 10:44 AM
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12. Saddam was certainly
a better administrator for Iraqis than the chimpenführer!!
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 11:04 AM
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14. If by administrator you mean oppressor.
One thing I've learned from this whole charade is that the US just isn't very good at being opressively autocratic. Well, not as good as Saddam, anyway.
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demobrit Donating Member (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 11:50 AM
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19. Now isn`t that just the mother of all news
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