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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 05:07 PM
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White House calls Democrats irresponsible on Iraq



http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051201/pl_nm/iraq_usa_dc;_ylt=Au1Ew7rccz.0EXqpvoO1azys0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3b2NibDltBHNlYwM3MTY-

White House calls Democrats irresponsible on Iraq

By Steve Holland 23 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House called irresponsible on Thursday those Democrats who said that President George W. Bush lacked a strategy on Iraq, as Sen. John Kerry said a policy shift was needed to reflect realities on the ground.

Some partisan squabbling was heard the day after Bush laid out his "plan for victory," although Democrats were not as uniformly dismissive of Bush as they had been.

............

"Those Democratic congressional leaders who try to suggest that we don't have a plan are deeply irresponsible," said White House spokesman Scott McClellan, who reiterated it was possible to bring some troops home next year.

A snap poll by CNN/Gallup/USA Today after Bush's speech said 55 percent of respondents believed Bush did not have a plan to "achieve victory for the United States in Iraq."
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Dem Agog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 05:08 PM
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1. Brick house in cul-de-sac calls * a "war criminal"
Film at 11...

What else is new?
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PittPoliSci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 05:09 PM
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2. cause they've got so much room to point fingers...
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 05:09 PM
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3. "MISTAKES ADMITTED" ?????
Edited on Thu Dec-01-05 05:10 PM by rodeodance


MISTAKES ADMITTED

.......A sharp Bush critic, Delaware Democratic Sen. Joe Biden, told CNN he did not hear a solid plan from Bush but that he appreciated that the president "leveled with the American people" by admitting mistakes had been made in Iraq and that much remained to be done.

"He laid out the goals, said it's going to be hard, said give him time, but he didn't tell us how he was going to change the game plan to accomplish that," Biden said.

Marine Corps Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said in a speech military leaders had not adequately explained progress in that country to Americans worried about the rising cost in casualties and money.

"Guys like me have not articulated well enough what is happening in Iraq and in Afghanistan," Pace said. "Every place I look in the (Iraqi) political and economic realm I see progress. And clearly inside the security realm I see enormous progress."........
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 05:11 PM
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4. it was Scott McClellan who said this.
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Dem Agog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 05:17 PM
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5. Speaking of...
speaking of "batshit crazy"... and pig faced as well.
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 05:19 PM
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6. I call the WH illegitimate
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 05:25 PM
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7. AND irresponsible!
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 05:25 PM
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8. Condition upgraded from "reprehensible" to "irresponsible."
I suppose that when the last Marine leaves on a stretcher, the White House will consider us to be "slightly misguided."
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 05:37 PM
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9. 'irresponsible' seems to the mantra coming from Repugs lately (about
anyone they disagree with).
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 05:38 PM
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10. it is like Scotty is scolding anyone who disagrees with him/WH. sickening.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 05:40 PM
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11. White House calls Democrats irresponsible on Iraq
White House calls Democrats irresponsible on Iraq
Reuters

Dec 1, 2005 — By Steve Holland

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House called irresponsible on Thursday those Democrats who said that President George W. Bush lacked a strategy on Iraq, as Sen. John Kerry said a policy shift was needed to reflect realities on the ground.

Some partisan squabbling was heard the day after Bush laid out his "plan for victory," although Democrats were not as uniformly dismissive of Bush as they had been.

The president, seeking to bolster Americans' support for war in the face of rising casualties and to restore confidence in his leadership, said in his speech on Wednesday that time and patience were needed for training Iraqi forces.

He held out the possibility of a reduction in U.S. troop levels eventually, once Iraqis are able to fight the insurgency on their own and if progress is made on the political front looking ahead to Iraq's December 15 elections.
(snip/...)

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=1363751





Irresponsible on Iraq?
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 05:40 PM
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12. So Bush said >>>
"He held out the possibility of a reduction in U.S. troop levels eventually, once Iraqis are able to fight the insurgency on their own and if progress is made on the political front looking ahead to Iraq's December 15 elections".

Which Translates to>>

"If my handlers think that I'm going to fuck things up again"
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 05:40 PM
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13. As we all know
The White House is occupied by complete idiots.
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 05:40 PM
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14. Invasion of a disarmed country.
Rounding up and Torture of local population.
No armor for the troops.
Use of phosphorous weapons on women and children.
Rotten food served to troops by Halliburton.
Gouging on gasoline by Halliburton.
Eight billion dollars in CASH goes missing.
No Exit Strategy.

Yeah, those Democrats are REALLY IRRESPONSIBLE.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 05:41 PM
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15. Move over Slobodan Miloševic,
Edited on Thu Dec-01-05 05:29 PM by 0007
ya can't hog the Hague all by yourself. We got a big crew coming in to keep ya company.

Miloševic's defense is, he was defending his country from terrorism.

junior's defense is, he is defending his country from terrorism.
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 08:18 PM
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23. The are going to need to replace their electric chair
with electric bleachers to handle *'s crew....
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 08:21 PM
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24. The Hague has a large soccer stadium.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 05:41 PM
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16. bushco is positively pathological.
they attack Democrats for everything they've f*&^ed up.
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melissinha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 05:41 PM
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17. here's the one unrefutable argument to beat that crap...
We don't have enough troops, we can't ask them to go on 7th or 8th tour, we just can't. We don't have the physical means to carry out Bush's ambiguous plan. Never mind that China OWNS us.

So long as our party GETS ON BOARD before they do .. the inevitable conclusion will be that the plan will nevereb carried out...
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 05:41 PM
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18. Headlines are Truth. No need to read further or look for more info. nt
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 05:44 PM
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19. Uh, okay, Scotty. Then what is the plan?
Explain it. Right now.

*sound of crickets*
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madmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 07:25 PM
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20. Going to war without a reason and an exit strategy is deeply
irresponsible.
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 08:00 PM
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21. "deeply irresponsible"? Are we allowed to use profanity here?
Reading this Orwellian BS makes me so mad anything less than a slew of F's and GD's and B's and every other F'n word in the dictionary of swear won't satisfy me.

Those pukes are the "deeply irresponsible" ones.

I'm so tired of seeing these A-holes in the WH shovel thier S on the world. American democrats should be so incredibly angry. If they're not up in arms over this kind of accusation then someone should check thier collective pulse.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 08:02 PM
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22. He lays out a "plan for victory" 31 months after engagement?
:wtf:

Tell me again, Scotty, who exactly is "irresponsible on Iraq" ? :eyes:
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 08:25 PM
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25. His plan consists of "We win"
He doesn't have a plan. He can't comprehend what is going on. He says that we have to stay to prevent further attacks on America.

The only part of America that the group of people formerly known as insurgents (Rummy's "EOTLIG") can attack are those parts that the dumbass in chief has put in harm's way. They STILL don't have WMD, mobile labs or drone airplanes...

*'s circular logic of we have to fight because people are fighting our occupying troops needs to called the bullshit that it is.
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mandomom Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 09:10 PM
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26. Ever count how many times Bush folks use the term "deeply"?
Waaay overdone. In fact, it is deeply overdone.
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