Bush Caught the 'Feaver,' Computer Detectives Find, in Big Speech on Iraq

In the past, Bush has used the "repeat over and over" routine with success. Lately it seems that his credibility isn't as strong as it used to be.

Here's what he said to Clinton what victory means. Maybe he should take his own advice??? "Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is."
-Governor George W Bush (R-TX)

A "Find" search of "National Strategy for Victory in Iraq" ( at http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/iraq/iraq_strategy_nov2005.html )reaveals zero uses of the word "exit". Here's the definition of victory now written by polling expert Dr. Feaver ("Strategy for Victory, p.3):

VICTORY IN IRAQ DEFINED

As the central front in the global war on terror, success in Iraq is an essential element in the long war against the ideology that breeds international terrorism. Unlike past wars, however, victory in Iraq will not come in the form of an enemy's surrender, or be signaled by a single particular event -- there will be no Battleship Missouri, no Appomattox. The ultimate victory will be achieved in stages, and we expect:

In the short term:
An Iraq that is making steady progress in fighting terrorists and neutralizing the insurgency, meeting political milestones; building democratic institutions; standing up robust security forces to gather intelligence, destroy terrorist networks, and maintain security; and tackling key economic reforms to lay the foundation for a sound economy.
In the medium term:
An Iraq that is in the lead defeating terrorists and insurgents and providing its own security, with a constitutional, elected government in place, providing an inspiring example to reformers in the region, and well on its way to achieving its economic potential.
In the longer term:
An Iraq that has defeated the terrorists and neutralized the insurgency.
An Iraq that is peaceful, united, stable, democratic, and secure, where Iraqis have the institutions and resources they need to govern themselves justly and provide security for their country.
An Iraq that is a partner in the global war on terror and the fight against the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, integrated into the international community, an engine for regional economic growth, and proving the fruits of democratic governance to the region.


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So, now we know what the president means when he says our soldiers will be there “as long as they need to be, and not one day longer.":
FOREVER (and not one day longer).

has nothing to do with Iraq

While it will work with his base, what's that maybe 20% of the people now, this will ring hollow with the rest of people.

For one, he already declared victory about 10 times. People can see that this is a lame attempt to say what Democrats are advocating is defeat.

Personally it is sad to me the politicians aren't just working on what makes the most sense for Iraq. To do that they would actually have to have defined goals and objectives people agree upon. Unfortunately in war they still don't do that. If they did they may actually have to define "victory". They want to claim victory (and will) regardless of what happens.

... whatever he must to control his base. I'd like to think the masses of sheep have learned not to just listen, but to listen and question bush. Not that he will answer, but that should show them something.

There is no such thing as victory in Iraq. Or, if so, I haven't heard a satisfactory articulation of it from anyone with the power to change our course toward "victory." bush just reads what is put in front of him. He has no idea what he is doing.

That's what they always say but we can all clearly see from their actions that they do.

......Feaver, the Times’ Scott Shane writes, “was recruited after he and Duke colleagues presented to administration officials their analysis of polls about the Iraq war in 2003 and 2004. They concluded that Americans would support a war with mounting casualties on one condition: that they believe it would ultimately succeed."

According to some before the war, eliminating the WMD would be a win...

As far as I can tell, we've accomplished precisely nothing over there (unless you happen to own a lot of shares of Kellogg, Brown & Root)--what precisely would constitute success???
Elimination of insurg--er, um, freedom-haters? (can't see that happening as long as we're there)
Institution of democracy? (what's your definition of democracy?? We're doing a bang-up job supporting a free, or maybe that should be cut-rate, press....)
Eradication of the WMDs that we've already established weren't there to begin with?
WHAT????
We've opened this ugly-ass Pandora's Box, what's it gonna take before we can turn around and LEAVE????

Sort of like when he didn't have invasion plans "on his desk"

Image, power, influence, (oh) and money ----these are the important things to them.

for bush and his entourage, the Victory pamplets, meals, security?
anyone wanna guess?

I'm sure it's outrageous. I remember during the last year's campaigning the Bush team had some galla event on a boat and it was VERY VERY expensive and the town had to pay for it!

They are great at poltical campaigns--and they suck at leading. The whole presidency has been one continuous campaign of spin and propoganda.

paper form.

successful outcome to this imperial oil driven war! Even if Bush says Victory a thousand times, we'll find out if people actually believe him.

:bounce:

but that doesn't mean it is happening or is going to happen.

Never know how much I love you
Never know how much I care
When you put your arms around me
I get a fever that's so hard to bear
You give me Feaver (BRRRRRROOOMP!) when you kiss me
Feaver when you hold me tight...
Feaver! (BRRRRRROOOMP!) ... in the mornin'
Feaver all through the night

Sun lights up the day time
Moon lights up the night
I light up when you call my name
'cause I know you're gonna treat me right
You give me Feaver (BRRRRRROOOMP!) when you kiss me
Feaver when you hold me tight
Feaver (BRRRRRROOOMP!) ... in the mornin'
Feaver all through the night...

(I'm sorry, Ms. Lee. I couldn't resist... http://www.lyricsdepot.com/peggy-lee/fever.html )

From an Administration which repeatedly dismisses polls as a factor in its behavior.

While I'm not Shocked!, here's a blunt example of what a con game Bush is willing to play as President and as Commander in Chief.

What a scam.

(Oh, and it's Clinton's fault, again.)

or do they just need to know that we will ''win''?

for example -- building schools in iraq -- well there were schools in iraq BEFORE we blew them up -- but does it mean ''winning'' once fox news starts blaring bushco's propaganda that we are building schools in iraq?

is all america needs to hear is that here is an election in iraq-- the fact that it means diminished rights for women -- is that a distinction that has meaning?

and so on...

seems to feel that he has the pulse of the American people. He's probably got a doctorate in political science. He's studied lots of books on American battles, how the public was "convinced" to fight the good fight. He knows all about whipping people up patriotically.

Well, I've got news for Mr. Beaver. PhD's are sometimes so introverted, so deep in their books that they don't really know what's going on in the world around them.

Maybe Mr.Cheater doesn't really know how Americans think. Bush could have asked me. I would have told him for free: THE AMERICANS ARE TIRED of this Cul-De-Sac war in Iraq. Our wounds from VietNam are still too fresh for many of us.

peace.

Feaver would define success only in terms of accomplishing military objetcives. US casualties, much less Iraqi civilian casualties, are not his priority. But let's just say this pre-emptive war, launched on false pretenses "succeeded" by the terms of his criteria.

It would be vindication for a morally reprehensible foreign policy. Who is next? Syria? Iran? North Korea?

I'll pass on that, and if it comes to that I may have to hand in my citizenship.

If the people of those states want democracy, then they have to make the sacrifices to bring it about. We cannot, and should not do so.

This distraction was not in touch with reality - only TeeVee and poll results.

With jazz hands dancing to the song Fever!

-Hoot

is more cowbell!!!



Victory via cowbell in Iraq, Bush's Ultimate Solution

tell them what they want and help them sell their lies.

Fascist enabler.

Even if he did his poll without cynical motives, his actions afterward reveal his agenda as clearly as they reveal the Bush Administration's.

You are a dumb ass. YOu don't know the first thing about crowd control. YOu made the pResident look even more stupid.

Maybe you didn't notice that Bush is already considered liar by 65% of the American Public already?

And I hope you didn't design that set he spoke from which looked like either a cross between the Jeopardy Game Show or the Captain's Quarters on the Titanic.

Yours Truely,

The Psyops Corp.

More PR propaganda...I'm sick of this corporate bullcrap. We are dealing with real deaths, they sell it like a marketing campaign.
Cold hearted bunch of bullies.:grr:

The entire mainstream U.S. media continue to try to protect and support Bush by repeating his propaganda.

Every paper I've picked up in the past few days has a headline that talks about Bush's "Plan for Victory". Of course if you read the article, you see that there's no plan, but the headlines don't reflect that.

How do you suppose they make that happen? It can't be coincidence.

The "ignorance is bliss" segment of the public (that actually believed Saddam had WMD) might have seized on the victory pacifier and sucked on it till their eyes popped out.

No more. The majority of the public has dropped its warrior persona. We know we're screwed in Iraq. Mission Accomplished has morphed, tortuously and inevitably, into Mission Impossible. There will be no victory. And the longer we stay there, the more ignominious our defeat will be. The very best we can hope for now is to attain some version of mutual political stalemate between the U.S. and Iraq, and even that is rapidly slipping from our grasp.

So the "unclassified version of their super secret master plan" was written by a public opinion/polling expert.


As Frank Luntz has said, "I'm not going to let you twist the words, because if I say to you that you can sell a politician the way you sell soap-and it may even look that way from the outside-that says to Americans that they shouldn't respect politicians."

"So the "unclassified version of their super secret master plan" was written by a public opinion/polling expert."

Don't worry, the free press will be all over this!

:hi:

but cut to the chase with this antiwar piece from 1999 in which the writer is criticizing Dr. Expert. (This piece is about Taiwan.) Note that this is probably also where "cut and run" came from.



From 1999. Sounds prescient.

http://www.antiwar.com/chu/c111299.html

It's not about telling the American people what's happening in a war, it's about research and then telling them what they want to hear.

I know it goes on all the time at some level. But these guys seem to have completely discarded any connection to the truth.