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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 05:49 PM
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US official in talks with Iraqi insurgents
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. ambassador to Iraq is holding talks with Iraqi nationalist insurgents and the Sunnis they represent, Time magazine reported on Sunday.

Time quoted U.S. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad as saying "We will intensify the engagement, interaction and discussion with them." He said reaching out to Sunnis regarding their "legitimate concerns" makes sense because of rifts between the nationalist and al Qaeda camps in the insurgency.

Asked about the report on CNN's "Late Edition," National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley said U.S. officials are "not going to have contact with people who have blood on their hands." But he said the officials have had contacts with Sunni groups for some time.

Hadley said the ambassador was trying to convince Sunnis that democratization will succeed and that "the Sunnis have a place in a democratic Iraq and they need to step forward now, to take that place by participating in the elections."

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyid=2005-12-04T223328Z_01_KWA477752_RTRUKOC_0_US-IRAQ-USA.xml&rpc=22
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 05:53 PM
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1. Excuse me?
U.S. officials are "not going to have contact with people who have blood on their hands."

Mr. Hadley, in case you haven't noticed, it is the U.S. officials who have blood on their hands. Maybe they should all stop having contact with each other - we'd probably be out of Iraq a lot sooner if they did.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 05:56 PM
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3. That got me too--no blood on our hands, nosiree
Would there be any negotiations if the "insurgents" laid down their arms and were good little puppets?
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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 05:55 PM
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2. There is no insurgent group without blood on their hands
In fact there is no US ally in that country without blood on their hands, no one in the Iraq War doesn't have blood on their hands.

What a stupid statement.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 06:31 PM
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4. Not only do we have blood on our hands...
We are also the ones who started the bloodbath in Iraq. After Abu Ghraib, and the killing of tens of thousands of innocent civilians there, we have no right to claim the moral high ground. We lost any pretense of that when this administration went ahead with this criminal war.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 04:33 AM
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5. US official in talks with Iraqi insurgents: report (Khalilzad)
Edited on Sun Dec-04-05 06:49 PM by Barrett808
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. ambassador to Iraq is holding talks with Iraqi nationalist insurgents and the Sunnis they represent, Time magazine reported on Sunday.

Time quoted U.S. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad as saying "We will intensify the engagement, interaction and discussion with them." He said reaching out to Sunnis regarding their "legitimate concerns" makes sense because of rifts between the nationalist and al Qaeda camps in the insurgency.

Asked about the report on CNN's "Late Edition," National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley said U.S. officials are "not going to have contact with people who have blood on their hands." But he said the officials have had contacts with Sunni groups for some time.

Hadley said the ambassador was trying to convince Sunnis that democratization will succeed and that "the Sunnis have a place in a democratic Iraq and they need to step forward now, to take that place by participating in the elections."

Hadley said Khalilzad is also authorized to have "very low level" talks with Iranian officials in Baghdad "for the very limited purpose of making clear to the Iranians that we are seeing Iranian equipment and technology showing up, in Iraq, in the hands of people that are attacking the coalition, and that this is unacceptable." He is not dealing with the full range of U.S.-Iranian issues, Hadley said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051204/ts_nm/iraq_usa_dc


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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 04:33 AM
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6. So, yet another Republican administration is negotiating with terrorists

I guess we can expect to see them signing contracts with them next.

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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 04:33 AM
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7. Oh please...
Do not mischaracterize what they are doing as negotiations. Don't lower the dialogue to that level. They clearly are not engaging in "negotiations" in any legitimate meaning of the word.
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 04:34 AM
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9. After all that has happened and the lies that have eminated from

this administration, why would you choose to believe how they characterize anything ?

And how would YOU know exactly what they are doing ?
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 04:34 AM
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8. More likely, a political ploy
Find some malleable Sunnis, who claim to speak for the resistance, and sign an accord. That will provide cover for a policy of slaughtering anyone else they choose to, on grounds that the "legitimate leadership" has come on board. It won't work, though, because they will not be able to find anyone with any legitimacy with whom to deal.
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