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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 07:42 PM
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Some oil executives worry prices may fall
NEW YORK Hold on to your gas guzzlers: Cheap oil may once again be just around the corner. Even as consumers worry about high gasoline prices and rising heating bills, oil executives in London, Texas and Saudi Arabia seem to be concerned about a prospect of falling oil prices.

In a recent speech in Singapore, John Browne, the chief executive of BP, spoke of a possible sharp drop in prices and called current levels "unsustainably high."

John Hofmeister, head of Shell Oil in the United States, said during an interview, "This high price cycle is artificially inflated."

Today, producers are again under pressure to step up production and refining, and to increase investments to get more oil to the markets quickly. But oil executives and government ministers are concerned that if demand slowed down, even a little bit, those investments might create a large oversupply in two to three years, pushing prices down again.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/12/04/business/outoil.php
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 07:47 PM
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1. Is that why they blew the Venezuelan pipe line?
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Pam-Moby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 07:50 PM
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2. bahrbearian
You read my mind. That is what I was thinking also. :rofl:
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 10:37 AM
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14. What do you mean?
I think I missed that one.
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M155Y_A1CH Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 11:11 AM
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17. Recent news item link
see here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1967762


CIA-4 explosives used to keep cheap gas from impoverished Americans, if you ask me.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 11:57 AM
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18. sounds like the work of moron*....
He's pissed off at Chavez for giving low priced oil to the poor here.

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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 07:52 PM
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3. this pigs make me
:puke:

Oh.My.God! Prices might fall! My bonus is in jeopardy!

:puke:
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Sir_Snooze Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 08:00 PM
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4. Yeah, I Wonder how that happened?
Hmm...who "artifically inflated" prices, I wonder?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 08:06 PM
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6. Love that sign! Do you mind if I paint it?
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 08:04 PM
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5. Shell is and has been a bit player.
The cost of oil a barrel is about 20% of what we pay at the pump.

Refining, distribution costs are pretty fixed for us.

We really are screwed here. Pains me to say it.

And we do not have "2-3" years, in any event.


Joe
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 12:31 PM
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20. Thanks for posting my very favorite song. n/t
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 12:32 PM
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22. De nada.
It just popped into my mind when I read this horseshit.
:hi:
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 08:30 PM
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8. Greedy basta__s!
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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 10:19 PM
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9.  "This high price cycle is artificially inflated."
They admit it? Shows how brash they are. If we had a President with as much sack as bravado, we'd take them to task on this.

There's no mercy being shown here. They're getting afraid that too many people are going to adjust their habits, that's all. They know that SUV's are tanking and they have been driving demand in the last decade. The price is an artificial figure anyway. WTF?--they think we believe it costs 2-3X as much to produce than 5 years ago? Gimme a break.
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 10:49 PM
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10. Doesn't do much for the peak oil argument
I guess time will tell.

Peace.
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westcoastbias Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 11:05 PM
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11. Would an Oil exec say "We are short on oil."
I think an oil executive would say prices are going to fall
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 12:30 AM
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12. If you understand it, it does
Edited on Tue Dec-06-05 12:31 AM by depakid
the peak oil models all anticipate instability and price fluctuations- major peaks and valleys.

What you look at over the long term is a line called the moving average. That most assuredly will rise steadily over the next decade and perhaps faster than most of the current projections, based on rapidly increasing demand in Asia.
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 01:25 AM
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13. OK, that makes some sense n/t
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Texifornia Donating Member (399 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 12:17 PM
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19. 'Zactly!
Near the top of the peak and all the way down the back side of the curve prices will be most sensitive to demand. As the article says, even slight reductions in demand, or perhaps more accurrately, reduction in rate of increase in demand, will effect prices.

This is why the big five are not investing significantly more in E & P (Exploration and Production) than they were at $26/bbl.

It is also important to know that the "Big 5" of Shell, Exxon-Mobil, BP, Chevron-Texaco, and Conoco-Phillips are not so very big in the grand scheme of things. Most of the World's oil and gas reserves and production capacity belong to national oil companies like Saudi Aramco, PDVSA, Statoil, Petronas, ADNOC, etc.

On the upside of the curve production had the dominate influence on price. I think we are seeing the beginning of the domination of demand on price that is characteristic of the downside of the curve.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 10:54 AM
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15.  worried because their monthly profits will be in millions not billions?
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 11:06 AM
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16. They make so much money now, they seriously do not know
what to do with it all. This must just be theater.
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12345 Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 12:31 PM
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21. So feel free to spend, spend, spend for Christmas...
Gas prices aren't going to go up ;).
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 01:35 PM
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23. Gas went up here from $1.94 to a $1.99 today....N/T
Edited on Tue Dec-06-05 01:36 PM by Tippy
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 02:03 PM
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24. Oh,
my heart bleeds for them!:nopity:

:sarcasm:
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