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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 12:39 PM
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Bush agrees mistakes made in Iraq (also cites Lieberman)

http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=84799

Bush agrees mistakes made in Iraq

WASHINGTON - In a rare acknowledgement that Iraq has not gone as planned, US President George W. Bush agreed Wednesday that mistakes had been made but warned that a US withdrawal now would be "a bigger mistake."

"Reconstruction has not always gone as well as we had hoped, primarily because of the security challenges on the ground," he said in formal remarks on Iraq ahead of that war-torn country's elections next week.

Bush cited opposition Democratic Senator Joseph Lieberman's support for his Iraq strategy following the lawmaker's trip to see US-led reconstruction and stabilization efforts first-hand.

"The senator says that mistakes have been made. But he goes on to say that he's worried about a bigger mistake," namely a hasty withdrawal, said Bush. "Senator Lieberman is right."


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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 12:47 PM
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1. We admit mistakes have been made, but
everyone knows we lie and, even better, hide the truth to delay the lies if possible. So--how big are the mistakes really?
Seems like top admin. people--* and C*ndi are out there doing the admitting. Of course, Ch*neyHawk won't admit a mistake. Something peculiar is going on.
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:38 PM
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14. beware the passive voice
It is a weasly way to avoid saying, "I made a mistake" Saint Ronnie was good at this, too. Admit someting is fucked up but not take responsibility, even when the responsibility should be yours.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 12:49 PM
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2. OK, who doesn't think Joe is headed for the Pentagon?
The Wolf needs a new puppet in the big, five sided building.
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:56 PM
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17. Joe Can't Go to the 5-gon
Lieberman was never in the military. It would be a total travesty to put him in. Might as well put in Anna Nicole or Elvis. The military people would never accept him. Old saying--you can dress 'em up, but you can't take 'em out.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:59 PM
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18. Did you see Stephanie's post of Cheney pinning Purple Hearts on GIs?
Too many military leaders have already been purged. I put nothing past the neocon and their enablers.
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 02:12 PM
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21. Actually, I saw it a couple of times yesterday and that miscreant
should be banned from touching a purple heart. F friggin deferments does not make him worth the skin that covers him.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 04:26 PM
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26. Elvis Unlike the CHIMPANZEE was in the military
On active duty
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 04:34 PM
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27. Didn't intend to imply he
hadn't been in the military--but being "in the beyond" limits his ability to serve as Secy. of D.--IMHO.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 05:02 PM
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29. I know I didn't take it that way
Edited on Wed Dec-07-05 05:03 PM by saigon68
Actually Elvis for all of his faults


---never was a War Criminal or killed another person
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Maggie_May Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 12:57 PM
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3. Bush is a idiot
I am so sick a tried of his speeches. We have our Gulf states hit by Katrina that are still a mess and he's talking about the progress in Iraq. Bush and our Representatives are so out of touch with what the American people need and its not rebuilding Iraq!
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Pam-Moby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 12:58 PM
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4. Every word that come out of Mr. Fudwackers
mouth seems to be repeated by good ole Joseph Lieberman. Joseph Lieberman is just a mouth piece to Fudwacker. :puke:
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 04:36 PM
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28. Josef Losermann dino (conn) is a Corporate tool and apologist
For the Bush War Criminals and Mental Deviant Cheney
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:01 PM
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5. I love the passive voice
"I fucked up because I am a dangerously stupid moron who got buffaloed by a bunch of wacked out warmongering geeks and got thousands and thousands of people killed for nothing, absolutely nothing" would have been a more gracious way of putting it.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:06 PM
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6. It's "Who Wants to be a Millionaire"
and Joe Lieberman is the pretzledents "phone a friend" lifeline.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 02:44 PM
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24. until he's not and then monkey boy
will screw him like he does everyone else. Ole Merkel got a wake up call her second day in. We are great friends, see they admit they made a mistake...big slap down came her way! Loserman doesn't have far to fall to hit the bottom of the barrel. Drop out Loserman. Take your lifetime pension and get the hell out of our senate.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:14 PM
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7. Dupe -- just missed it
Edited on Wed Dec-07-05 01:00 PM by Barrett808
WASHINGTON (AFP) - In a rare acknowledgement that Iraq has not gone as planned, US President George W. Bush agreed that mistakes had been made but warned that a US withdrawal now would be "a bigger mistake."

"Reconstruction has not always gone as well as we had hoped, primarily because of the security challenges on the ground," he said in formal remarks on Iraq ahead of that war-torn country's elections next week.

Bush cited opposition Democratic Senator Joseph Lieberman's support for his Iraq strategy following the lawmaker's trip to see US-led reconstruction and stabilization efforts first-hand.

"The senator says that mistakes have been made. But he goes on to say that he's worried about a bigger mistake," namely a hasty withdrawal, said Bush. "Senator Lieberman is right."

The comments came in the second of a series of speeches aiming to reverse a steady slide in support from the US public for his administration's efforts in Iraq, where a deadly insurgency has claimed the lives of some 2,100 US troops.

(more)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051207/pl_afp/usiraqbushmistakes

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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:14 PM
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8. Two things.
First, fuck off, George. "Mistakes" are things like forgetting to pass in a paper or dropping your car keys in a puddle. This is a fuck-up of monumental proportions. You have gotten NOTHING right. There WERE no WMDs, there WAS no connection to al Qaeda, and the Iraqis did NOT greet us with sweets and flowers. You have LIED about everything, even the shit you didn't have to lie about. Just fuck the fuck off.

Second, fuck off, Holy Joe. Your cowardice and willingness to carry water for the Asshole-In-Chief makes me sick and ashamed to say you're a Democrat. How you can still support trying to "fix" Iraq now is beyond me. Fuck off.
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SIU_Blue Donating Member (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:17 PM
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11. gospel
absolute gospel.

:yourock:
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:19 PM
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12. *takes a bow*
Thank you, thank you...I'm here all week. :D
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 02:25 PM
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23. Well said...
I agree with everything you said.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:14 PM
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9. Ah, the passive voice is a wonderful tool...
... for evading responsibility. So much easier to say, "mistakes were made" than "I made a mistake." Especially for narcissistic sociopaths like Bush.

Nothing like having a president that channels Ted Bundy.
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mazzarro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:14 PM
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10. No, no, no! * is not acknowledging any mistakes
Edited on Wed Dec-07-05 01:16 PM by mazzarro
When read carefully; * is saying that by other peoples' judgments (i.e. Lieberman's in this case), mistakes may have been made BUT if *'s present policy is abandoned then "a bigger mistake" will be made.
This guy will not directly take responsibility for any mistakes. This is not the first time he has tried to slyly avoid take ownership of his failures, and it will not be the last either.
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:28 PM
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13. the man is fucking insane read this part of his speech:
Tell me this

Large public works projects undertaken initially after the overthrow of Saddam Hussein ``were not meeting the priorities of the Iraqi people,'' he said. ``The most urgent needs were smaller,'' such as sewers and roads.

``The terrorists and Saddamists have slowed progress but they haven't stopped it,'' he said.

What are larger public works than the roads and water? What the fuck is he talking about?
No mention of power but roads and water are thought by him to be "smaller public needs".
He's such an idiot.

"Saddamists and terrrorists"?

HOW CAN JUST TWO SENTENCES BE PACKED WITH AS MUCH BLITHERING IDIOTIC NONSENSE??!!

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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 02:16 PM
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22. MercyCorps Apparently Has Learned
that putting the money into local hands is far more effective than sending their own people in to try to learn how to work effectively somewhere where they don't even know local customs. Probably that would have been best in Iraq. They have a very highly educated population. I'm sure they can figure out their own engineering problems. Or hire experts of their choice to do it. Cheaper in terms of lives all the way around.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:42 PM
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15. He's still not admitting any mistakes!
At least in the part that is quoted here, I don't see Dub admitting a mistake or accepting any responsibility at all.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 02:00 PM
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19. responsibility
LOL - it will never happen.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 01:55 PM
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16. Too bad Al Gore made Lieberman famous
The war whore should have been kept in obscurity.
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Texifornia Donating Member (399 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 02:02 PM
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20. The thing about Joementum...
is that while slow, it has great inertia. Also, the suction created when Joementum passes near Bush's ass can keep it going for months on end.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 04:24 PM
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25. Pitiful, this is what criminals say at sentencing
They call intentionally wrongful actions mistakes. Does anyone believe that crap?

Next we're going to hear his mother say he just got mixed up with wrong crowd.

How about, I was just at the wrong place at the wrong time?
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 05:12 PM
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30. None of the other mistakes woud have occurred

if the fraudulent act of going to war had not occurred first.

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