Most Americans Say Bush Has No Plan for Iraq

<snip> Polling Data

So far, do you think the George W. Bush has developed a clear plan for getting American troops out of Iraq, or hasn’t he developed one?

Dec. 2005 Sept. 2005 Feb. 2005

Has 25% 24% 21%
Has not 70% 72% 75%
Don’t know 5% 4% 4% <snip>

When George W. Bush talks about how things are going for the United States in Iraq today, do you think he is making things in Iraq sound better than they really are, making things sound worse than they really are, or is he describing the situation in Iraq accurately?

Dec. 2005 Aug. 2005

Sound better 58% 57%
Sound worse 4% 5%
Describing accurately 33% 29%
Don’t know 5% 9%

Source: The New York Times / CBS News
Methodology: Telephone interviews with 1,155 American adults, conducted from Dec. 2 to Dec. 6, 2005. Margin of error is 3 per cent.

http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/fuseaction/viewItem/itemID/10182

The only plan is to stay there forever. There are several reasons for this.

Profits for defense contractors, in which the Bush family, and their cronies are heavily invested.

Iraq possesses capital, namely energy resources which we have seized by force. This was the energy plan that the bush regime sought to conceal from the outset of their oil company/ defense contractor administration.

A sovereign independent Iraq is an Iraq opposed to Israel. This plays into the hands of defense contractors which sell excess military production to Israel at US taxpayer expense and depend on the Israel nexus to keep unit costs down and government payments up. It is also a domestic play for the bonehead christian fundamentalist vote.

Our military position in Iraq is a staging ground for the takeover of Iranian oilfields and if necessary Saudi Arabia. Although this is stupid and impractical, this is what the oil government plan is.

Machiavelli 101: as long as there is a war going on, the opposition will divided by irrational patriotic impulses. All domestic opponents can be characterized as defeatists and unpatriotic.

The existence of an interminable guerilla war in Iraq lends credence to the phony war on terror which is largely a construction of the intelligence agencies of Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, England, and America. This provides an excuse to dismantle the constitution, and construct a repressive police state in favor of the corporate rich.

talking about how in 50 years history will look back and decide this was the greatest thing to happen in the ME, making some insane comparison to Japan.

Edit to add link

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1977717

Bush Likens Iraqi Action to Transition in '40's Japan
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/10/national/10bush.html

worth framing. It took me 5 years to finally figure it out, but I finally came to the same conclusions.

I've been posting the same thing: when people ask, "why are we there?", I usually tell them, "we opened up a police station in Iraq".

They look at me sorta funny, then I wait for them to ask me "why did we do that?". Usually they don't, but at least now I have the answers.

This plan scenario does seem to fit the facts so far. I think you've nailed a good part of it.

The war profitteers are making billions from this war, and they will not give up their prize easily.

While OUR sons and daughters continue to die in this war, the super-rich are kicking back, laughing, and raking in the dough.

When will we learn?? When will we ever learn??

Money truly is the root of all evil.

More proof of a significant national problem.

Imbecility.

He sent Paul Bremer over there to facilitate the largest armed robbery in the history of the planet.BushCo. has been setting this fiasco up for the last 30 years.They saw their mark they set him (Saddam) up they demonized him and then they took him out.The media is totally complicit in this endevour to disinform the public or these idiots that answer these polls would know as much as the editors of the NY Times and the Washington Post do.And the Editors know.If they had any guts they would be singing like canaries

The proof of my point(liar)is in the fact that what the the Coalition Provisional Authority did to control Iraqs assets and natural rescources during this fiasco is pure corporate theft.Forget what they say,watch their hands.The american public is not being shown their hands.

If we were leaving anytime soon why would Bremer be offering foreign corporations 40 year leases,and privatizing all of the infrastructure?Why would we have 14 bases there,and god knows how many jails and torture pits.
Who will be around to protect these foreign investors assets if we leave? The Iraqis? Not a chance,american troops will have to do it until we cow a new generation of locals into being good corporate subserviants sometime in the next 25 to 40 years.

The real problem here is that the american public is being deflected from the truth of the matter by the White House and their minions in the press.
Here is a link that pretty well points out how the corporate kleptocracy is doing their dirty work in Iraq.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_Provisional_Authority

These public opinion polls are usless because the public can't make an informed decision if they refuse to educate themselves to the truth of the matter.So who cares what someones uninformed opinion is,it is just as wrong as the next uninformed guys opinion.
And if you don't like wiki google is your best buddy...

and show how tough the US is.

But all that will really happen is hundreds of thousands of lives will be ruined and we'll waste unknowable amounts of resources.

That's the question. http://icasualties.org :cry:

That, and "when?"