Torture may be necessary: former W.House advisor

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Full article: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051213/us_nm/iraq_usa_blackwill_dc

We don't do it, but we might do it, and we sometimes might have to do it, but we don't do it, but we better continue to be allowed to have loopholes so we can get away with it in a roundabout way, but we don't do it, but the laws condemning it are quaint. We might do it. We don't.

Sound about right?

I think it actually goes we don't do it unless of course we do, in which case we outsource or subcontract it to the lowest bidder or maybe just buy a country to subcontract the deed for us.Not that that's any clearer than yours, but the whole country's got their heads up theirs on this thing.IMO It ought to be a matter of national outrage that we'd even discuss such a thing.

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and, is that all muslims that would welcome torture, or only Arabs? And, also are there any other truly evil religions?

...would disagree.
They are fine neighbors, condemn terrorism and worry more about crabgrass than jihad.
anyone tries to harm them, i am at their side.

DU really has changed since 2001. Your statment is backwards, hateful, ignorant, racist, and worthy of the GOP. I completely reject and repudiate your statement.

And no, I don't expect you to care. I'm making a point of very publicly going on record to say that statements like yours are reprehensible and I won't in any way be associated with them. You bring shame.

...then they aren't a very good Christian. A Christian should not fear death either. So therefore, by your reasoning, we should torture Christians AND Muslimes. Hell, by your "logic", the only people we should REFRAIN from torturing are atheists. Those we can just threaten with death.

wow...

"Islam is a truely evil religion."
There are some that might say all religions are evil. And others that might say that any religion can be perverted by wicked men to evil ends.

"I think it will destroy us."
A religion is going to destroy us? Or the followers of that religion? I'd be awfully shocked if I were chased down the street by a giant Koran.

That is nothing but evil. They are PEOPLE. Human beings.

Like Jack Abramoff's visit with the 9/11 terrorists.

Or Karl Rove's inclusion of Sami al Arian in a White House Briefing.

Or Grover Norquist's palling around with Abdurahman Alamoudi.

Is any one of those associations more tenuous than the justification being used against some of our current gulag quests? What's more, they are all members of a secretive political organisation known to support terrorism.* They all have a track-record for dishonesty which might require... firmer methods of persuation... to get them to talk.




* Jack Abramoff, Karl Rove, and Grover Norquist were all members of the College Republicans, a group which has produced known supporters of terrorism such as Jack Abramoff, Karl Rove, and Grover Norquist.

the 2000 elections and TAKING CAMPAIGN money from him !!!
There are pictures out there of it too.

You torture, they torture.

Back away from the conference table, Mr White House Aide. Back away slowly. You have become poisonous.

This is a joke right?

Advocate of war with Iraq also advocates torture. But we knew that already. This was Cheney's publicly anounced policy. Agreeing with Cheney makes you a brilliant analyst. Who is ruining the US military and the country in a futile and fruitless war? Brilliant analysts?

shining so brightly like a Christmas tree under the most brilliant star, W The Moron.

He's one scary SOB -an under-the-radar Baker type. He must give good access to the press in order to avoid greater coverage.

I read up on him at one point -he was the senior US official in Iraq for a time but his name was rarely mentioned in the media.

And if so, isn't that a violation of the Patriot Act?

United States Code
TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I - CRIMES
CHAPTER 113C - TORTURE

Section 2340A. Torture

(a) Offense. - Whoever outside the United States commits or
attempts to commit torture shall be fined under this title or
imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both, and if death results to
any person from conduct prohibited by this subsection, shall be
punished by death or imprisoned for any term of years or for life.
(b) Jurisdiction. - There is jurisdiction over the activity
prohibited in subsection (a) if -
(1) the alleged offender is a national of the United States; or
(2) the alleged offender is present in the United States,
irrespective of the nationality of the victim or alleged
offender.
(c) Conspiracy. - A person who conspires to commit an offense
under this section shall be subject to the same penalties (other
than the penalty of death) as the penalties prescribed for the
offense, the commission of which was the object of the conspiracy.

soldier gets captured and tortured?

I'm sure Mr Blackwill might have something to offer under torture as the former national security advisor under Dubya.

is out of power and we're trying to find out where all the money went.

You know, the one that begins deep in your belly, that maybe is telling you America is over? I wonder if citizens of the Republic of Rome had that same feeling when the Empire began? Makes you think maybe PK Dick was on to something with the Black Iron Prison concept....

and all of the other liars till they tell the truth to America.

often the wrong results