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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 09:29 AM
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Lynne Cheney Offers Democracy Lesson (compares Iraq to US)

http://www.heraldnewsdaily.com/stories/news-00111255.html

Lynne Cheney Offers Democracy Lesson

WASHINGTON - Lynne Cheney had a history lesson for elementary school children Tuesday, likening this week‘s parliamentary elections in Iraq to America‘s own early struggle for democracy.

"Two hundred and seventeen years ago, we held our first vote under our Constitution," Vice President Dick Cheney ‘s wife said. "We started then on the path the Iraqis are walking now."

Cheney said it was important to talk to school children about Thursday‘s elections, in which Iraqis are electing a 275-member National Assembly, which will legislate in the coming four years and choose the first fully constitutional government in Iraq since the overthrow of Saddam Hussein in the U.S.-led war which started in early 2003.

"We did much the same thing in terms of our Constitution," Cheney said in an interview on CNN. "Many were reluctant to ratify (it) until they were told there would be amendments. ... So there are indeed many parallels and I look forward to talking with kids about it."


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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 09:39 AM
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1. How sick and evil is an administration...
...when Lynne Cheney is the humanizing PR vehicle?

Our Constitution, by the way, Lynne, wasn't written to order by/for an occupying foreign army.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 09:44 AM
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2. Yes, I clearly remember how the United States was a sovereign nation....
....in the hands of dictator and a foreign government invaded the US, toppled its dictator and gave us a deadline to create a constitution while occupying the country.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 01:28 PM
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12. Yes, Lynne seems to have missed that VERY
important point.

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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 10:02 AM
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3. Lynne, Have You Seen Dick?
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fshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 10:10 AM
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4. You can't find more condescending patronizing than that.
That's typical colonial discourse as well, by the way. The woman indeed speaks from the vantage point of a ruler indeed a few centuries ago.
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second edition Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 10:13 AM
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5. This is there new spin, history the Bushie way.
Makes me mad they dare to equate our independance from England to the invasion in Iraq. Those people didn't ask to be thrust into a bloody war. Why don't the Dems give the Repubs a real History lession? Where are our Dems by the way. I've not heard much from them in over a week or two except for Kerry and Murtha and Dean.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 10:14 AM
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6. DINO LIMPMANN
Is elating the Neocons


oops forgot the "f"
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 10:15 AM
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7. she forgot the lesson about how the colonials got rid of natives who were
in the way of founding this great country
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 11:04 AM
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8. I would there would be a second coming of...
the founding fathers to kick lying lynnes ass and the rest of these revisionist assholes.

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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 11:14 AM
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9. yes, i do seem to recall white people coming to this country and killing
and killing and killing and killing... and refusing to leave. there are similarities. we might have learned from our mistakes.

there was no justification for this Iraq war. it was premised on pure and hateful lies, and Lynne's husband was at the heart of those lies.

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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 12:39 PM
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10. Except she is all wrong the people didn't vote.........
only electors appointed by the states got to vote. They didn't trust the people to select the president. The election was held in 1789. 10 states participated in the election. The New York legislature chose no electors, and North Carolina and Rhode Island had not yet ratified the Constitution. So therefore she is wrong.


(The electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by ballot for two persons, of whom one at least shall not be an inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a list of all the persons voted for, and of the number of votes for each; which list they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates, and the votes shall then be counted. The person having the greatest number of votes shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such majority, and have an equal number of votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately choose by ballot one of them for President; and if no person have a majority, then from the five highest on the list the said House shall in like manner choose the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by States, the representation from each State having one vote; A quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two thirds of the States, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. In every case, after the choice of the President, the person having the greatest number of votes of the electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal votes, the Senate should choose from them by ballot the Vice President.)
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 12:55 PM
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11. Lynne Cheney offers "proof" of parity between U.S. & Iraq Founding Fathe
George Washington and Ahmad Chalabi, both "founding fathers" according to Lynne Cheney, a world-wide recognized expert in such things:

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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 01:44 PM
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13. This was on CNN this morning...
Lynne Cheney was quoting polls in Iraq that said most of the people wanted a democratic society.
The Miles O'brienn mentioned the poll that said that 58% of US citizens did not believe that the Smirk has a plan for Iraq.
Her answer?
We don't look at the polls.
Then :wtf: was she talking about????
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