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considering that they have a 'secret' nuke program and reportedly quite a collection of their own and have had them ever since they crossed the point of no return quite some time ago.

Both JPost nd Haaretz are purposely misquoting ElBaradei:

Overview to the disinformation provided by Raw Story:

From the Independent source:



So ElBaradei actually said 'at least two years' and then a few months response is consistent; he doesn't KNOW if they are developing a bomb.

Now if the head of Israel's nuclear programme could be even this candid, then we would be getting somewhere.

But since the UN 'stretcher of mass destruction' incident, I don't think anything attributed to the IDF is useful other than propaganda.

to weapons grade, once you have the materials and equipment in place and start the process.

that you mention? Sounds like one I want to add to my collection. (See some others in my post downthread.)

The deliberate fearmongering and lies about Iran constitute an exact parallel for the leadup to the Iraq war. Even apart from the bogus "Iran will nuke you" hype, the Bush administration has been moving in this direction for some time. For example, see this VIDEO PRESENTATION comparing the language used before the Iraq war and later with Iran:
http://www.bushflash.com/signals.html

That the Israelis and the Bush Administration are lying about the Iranian nukes is clear. Will they be allowed to start another war of choice?

Shark music, please.

What I don't get is the U.S. has lived with nuclear missiles pointed at us every day for 50 years, and the dirty Commies used to saber-rattle as much as the Iranians. Indians, Pakistanis, Chinese, Americans, Russians, Europeans, all live under a nuclear umbrella.

I'm not saying it's great to have nukes pointed at you, but what makes Israel so different?

and Hans Blix say it is many years away:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4252778
thread title (Aug 3, 2005): Three extremely important threads on Iran nukes & the Bush agenda

One of those threads is on the US National Intelligence estimate, which says that Iran is 10 years away from a nuclear bomb:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1980753
thread title (Aug 3, 2005): WaPo: National Intelligence Estimate says IRAN AT LEAST 10 YEARS FROM BOMB

Hans Blix also says they are years away from a bomb:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1574781
thread title (June 23, 2005): Blix: Iran Years Away From Nuke Weapons

And a US expert has pointed out that "evidence" put forward to claim Iran's nuclear capability is more advanced is faulty:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5363050
thread title (11/15/05): U.S. atomic expert doubts report of Iran weapons

Israel has been threatening pre-emptive strikes in iran for some time and, like the PNAC neocons, its government really, really wants regime change in Iran. But not because Iran is a nuclear threat. Like the Iraq war, the stated reason is a cover for more selfish motivations that would not be accepted by the public.

Are we going to fall for these lies again? Israel itself is believed to have nuclear bombs, has had for years, but it's allowed to keep its secrets in a don't ask/don't tell policy. Pakistan also has nuclear bombs - but gee, they're another Bush Administration ally, so that's apparently OK too. But despite the evidence that Iran is years away from nuclear bombs, the media have been filled with saber rattling and more recent statements that point to a pre-emptive strike on iran in March:
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/080305E.shtml
article title (8/03/05): Media Flagstones on page to war on Iran

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5569421
thread title (12/11/05): SHARON: Ready by the end of March for possible strikes on IRAN

The fact is, the Bushies and the Israeli hawks WANT an attack on Iran aimed at regime change. This is OFFENSIVE, a pre-emptive strike, and the best available evidence says that it would be based on LIES. Again. And the consequences of another war of choice could be even more disastrous than the last one.

I have lots more links but no time to post them. This is very, very serious, and report after report shows that the fear-mongering about Iranian nukes is a LIE to justify another unjustified war.

They will supposedly hit "no return" in three months.

In four months, they plan to start selling oil in Euros instead of dollars. Do you think somebody does want them to sink the US dollar?

Follow the money! Way to go markham.

dupe

Becuase now bush will have an alibi.

But it DOES have everything to do with the coming Iran Bourse, or oil trading market, which will deal not just in dollars, but in euros and other currencies.

This is exactly what Saddam did in 2000, and it's also why we invaded Iraq. Now the Bush Neocon Empire is drumming up the same trumped up charges against Iran. But all we get in the news is stories about nukes. Ain't it about time we reminded the media that the truth will inform better than lies?

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cop".....

The bush cabal KNOWS they can't be "responsible" for starting another war in the mideast, but their buddies in the LIKUD government in Israel sure can. And, of course, GUESS WHO would SIMPLY HAVE TO come to Israel's aid?

They're already doing the preliminary "selling war on Iran" tactics to the American people via the press.

AND, YET AGAIN, THE AMERICAN PRESS IS COMPLICIT IN SELLING ANOTHER WAR TO AMERICANS!!!

This is what happens when we have DEFENSE CONTRACTORS (General Electric) owning MEDIA OUTLETS!!!! We get PROPAGANDA!!

Israel is doing the bidding of the U.S. by starting this war on Iran. They've already set the first week in March as the target date to bomb Iran's nuclear plants. So....the first week in March is when World War III actually begins.

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bastards' money! It's not a war for OUR benefit! Why in the HELL should ordinary American soldiers be ONCE AGAIN forced to die to protect the investments of the super-rich???????

As someone said here on another thread, that's the REAL reason we're being urged to invade Iran.

They'll be trading oil futures in euros, not dollars. At least, that's what they plan for down-the-road. And, I gather, a lot of really rich people are just not happy with that.

Too bad. Those of us who are (cough) not QUITE so rich have, comparatively, nothing to lose. So why should OUR people carry out another invasion for the benefit of these rich people? Answer: we shouldn't.