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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 09:47 PM
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Bush's Fumbles Spur New Talk of Oversight on Hill
Edited on Sat Dec-17-05 09:51 PM by cal04
After a series of embarrassing disclosures, Congress is reconsidering its relatively lenient oversight of the Bush administration. Lawmakers have been caught by surprise by several recent reports, including the existence of secret U.S. prisons abroad, the CIA's detention overseas of innocent foreign nationals, and, last week, the discovery that the military has been engaged in domestic spying. After five years in which the GOP-controlled House and Senate undertook few investigations into the administration's activities, the legislative branch has begun to complain about being in the dark.

On Friday, after learning that the National Security Agency was eavesdropping on conversations in the United States, Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) said that the activity was "wrong and it can't be condoned at all," and that his committee "can undertake oversight on it." That same day, the House approved a resolution that would direct the administration to provide House and Senate intelligence committees with classified reports on the secret U.S. prisons overseas. Democrats have long complained about a dearth of congressional investigations into Bush administration activities, but their criticism has been gaining validation from others after the botched response to Hurricane Katrina, problems in Iraq and ethical lapses.

Lawrence B. Wilkerson, former chief of staff to Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, said this fall that "the people's representatives over on the Hill in that other branch of government have truly abandoned their oversight responsibilities and have let things atrophy to the point that if we don't do something about it, it's going to get even more dangerous than it already is."
In an interview last week, Rep. Thomas M. Davis III (R-Va.), chairman of the House Government Reform Committee, said "it's a fair comment" that the GOP-controlled Congress has done insufficient oversight and "ought to be" doing more.

"Republican Congresses tend to overinvestigate Democratic administrations and underinvestigate their own," said Davis, who added that he has tried to pick up some of the slack with his committee. "I get concerned we lose our separation of powers when one party controls both branches." Democrats on the committee said the panel issued 1,052 subpoenas to probe alleged misconduct by the Clinton administration and the Democratic Party between 1997 and 2002, at a cost of more than $35 million. By contrast, the committee under Davis has issued three subpoenas to the Bush administration, two to the Energy Department over nuclear waste disposal at Yucca Mountain, and one last week to the Defense Department over Katrina documents. Some experts on Congress say that the legislative branch has shed much of its oversight authority because of a combination of aggressive actions by the Bush administration, acquiescence by congressional leaders, and political demands that keep lawmakers out of Washington more than before. "I do not think you can argue today that Congress is a coequal branch of government; it is not," said Lee H. Hamilton, president of the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars. Hamilton, a former Democratic congressman and vice chairman of the Sept. 11 commission, told reporters this month: "It has basically lost the war-making power.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/17/AR2005121700992.html
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Champion Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 09:51 PM
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1. I 'll believe it when I see it
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 09:55 PM
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3. What else do you do with a Shadow Government
You shadow all your political enemies and anyone else you don't like.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 09:52 PM
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2. Wilkerson has more guts than Powell


If he knew this, you know Powell knew.

For shame on all the crooks.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 10:04 PM
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4. In other words,
Congress is thinking about maybe doing it's job after 5 years.

Term limits are needed, NOW.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 10:18 PM
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5. This is an interesting stat :
"Democrats on the committee said the panel issued 1,052 subpoenas to probe alleged misconduct by the Clinton administration and the Democratic Party between 1997 and 2002, at a cost of more than $35 million. By contrast, the committee under Davis has issued three subpoenas to the Bush administration, two to the Energy Department over nuclear waste disposal at Yucca Mountain, and one last week to the Defense Department over Katrina documents."
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 10:26 PM
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6. Well, Yeah! You know how we hate
that peace and prosperity. Clinton and his damn progressive ideas.

(Not that I thought he was really progressive at all...he gave away our national forests, gutted our social welfare programs and although there are fewer people on the rolls, there are lots more that are hungry every day and night)

Whereas when one is stealing everything in sight, there should never be any oversight or everyone will know.
:sarcasm:
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MO_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 11:11 PM
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7. Yes, it's absolutely scandalous!
And Davis claims his committee is trying to pick up some of the slack! Just how stupid does he think "the American people" are?




:crazy:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 07:58 AM
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16. blowjobs are the moral priority for Repugs.--
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 02:34 AM
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8. Recommended!!! Here's my favorite quote from the article:
Edited on Sun Dec-18-05 02:34 AM by grytpype

"Republicans have made a mockery of oversight," said Rep. Henry A. Waxman (Calif.), the committee's ranking Democrat. "There was nothing too small to be investigated in the Clinton administration and there's nothing so big that it can't be ignored in the Bush administration."



Ain't it the truth. Someone moves furniture around in the White House and it gets its own investigation. Bush grants himself dictatorial powers and no one can be bothered to look into it.

At least the cracks are finally starting to show.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 08:00 AM
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18. agree--GREAT Waxman quote!!!
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 08:10 AM
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20. mine too!
It is staggering what has happened in the last five years. Who knew it could get this bad?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 07:33 PM
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22. I certainly hope we can take down these rotten bastards
while we still have a country. 'Tis going down fast and time is running out.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 02:38 AM
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9. It's nice that Rep. Thomas M. Davis III (R-Va.) is criticizing this,
but Rep. Dennis Hastert (R-IL) is Speaker of the House.
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Theduckno2 Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 03:47 AM
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10. Bush fumbles? He has been hiding the ball under his jersey!
Now, the hometown referees may be starting to wake up. As an aside I was startled when Bush expressed his anger over the leak regarding the NSA domestic spying activities. Where is all that anger concerning Plamegate? Just no comment while there is an ongoing investigation.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:45 AM
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11. these guys have to be re-elected. bush doesn't
so i'm expecting 'em to be all of a sudden really concerned about peoples 'rights'.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 07:56 AM
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15. Frist will stall any "oversight"
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 06:00 AM
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12. Yep
TRANSLATION:

Republicans scared shitless that they will all lose their jobs and that the Democrats will sweep the House and Senate, and that 4 days later the Impeachment proceedings will begin.

WIthout Rove and Delay these guys all run around like a bunch of chickens with their heads chopped off..

(THAT was a METAPHOR for you NSA assholes, and Mr Gonzales.. yeah, you're an asshole too.)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 07:54 AM
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13. gee -Congress is 'considering' doing its job!!--what a concept!




...After a series of embarrassing disclosures, Congress is reconsidering its relatively lenient oversight of the Bush administration. Lawmakers have been caught by surprise by several recent reports, including the existence of secret U.S. prisons abroad, the CIA's detention overseas of innocent foreign nationals, and, last week, the discovery that the military has been engaged in domestic spying. After five years in which the GOP-controlled House and Senate undertook few investigations into the administration's activities, the legislative branch has begun to complain about being in the dark.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 07:55 AM
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14. "the legislative branch has begun to complain about being in the dark"
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 07:59 AM
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17. nominated
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 08:02 AM
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19. this Hamilton quote is scary and sad.


....."I do not think you can argue today that Congress is a coequal branch of government; it is not," said Lee H. Hamilton, president of the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars. Hamilton, a former Democratic congressman and vice chairman of the Sept. 11 commission, told reporters this month: "It has basically lost the war-making power.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:10 AM
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21. Saved this little factoid.
"In an interview last week, Rep. Thomas M. Davis III (R-Va.), chairman of the House Government Reform Committee, said "it's a fair comment" that the GOP-controlled Congress has done insufficient oversight and "ought to be" doing more.

"Republican Congresses tend to overinvestigate Democratic administrations and underinvestigate their own," said Davis, who added that he has tried to pick up some of the slack with his committee. "I get concerned we lose our separation of powers when one party controls both branches."

Democrats on the committee said the panel issued 1,052 subpoenas to probe alleged misconduct by the Clinton administration and the Democratic Party between 1997 and 2002, at a cost of more than $35 million. By contrast, the committee under Davis has issued three subpoenas to the Bush administration, two to the Energy Department over nuclear waste disposal at Yucca Mountain, and one last week to the Defense Department over Katrina documents."

Nice to see some hard facts on the Republican rubberstampers in Congress. They are the true cowards. They have the majority control and are either too compromised, too afraid, or in bed with this administration to do their job of oversight. That's OK...their abication of their responsibilities to do their job on investigating this administration so as to provide short term cover for the criminal enterprise known as the Republican Syndicate, will hasten their demise.
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