CNN: Bush attacks paper for jeopardizing national security

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/12/17/bush.nsa/index.html

In acknowledging the message was true, President Bush took aim at the messenger Saturday, saying that The New York Times jeopardized national security by revealing that he authorized wiretaps on U.S. citizens after September 11. The president said he allowed the NSA "to intercept the international communications of people with known links to al Qaeda." Publishing details of the program "damages our national security and puts our citizens at risk," Bush said.



Der Fuhrer will blame the American People and their institutions for his failures (starting with the first admendment...). A warning from history.

The New York Times has repeatedly shown a Republican bias since 1980. Time and time they lied any lie about Democrats, while covering up any crimes committed by Republicans. They SAT on this story for over a year to cover for Bush.

They can go to hell.

and when did they know it?

i keep thinking they threw the election! by jamming this little tidbit up their butts and look who was able to steal the election -- in part due to the narrow margin.

in performing illegal, unconstitutional acts against the citizens of this country.

I could almost forgive them for Judith Miller for this one.

This is is what really got Nixon impeached. He was using the CIA illegally against his "enemies," and some very powerful men in Congress realized they were counted among them.

Impeach. Remove. Try and sentence. Imprison. Nothing else will do this time. If we don't do it to him, then others will follow in his footsteps.

and how many members of congress are among those for whom these secret wiretaps were authorized?

Any politician who is not a complete idiot knows what it means to have a secret police agency collect dossiers on politicians.

attacks on Democratic leaders of Congress, what could they expect?

because he was put on a "no fly" list.

I have every idea that THIS is the type of NSA action that was behind that little episode, and if I was Senator Ted Kennedy, I'd be all over this little trick of george's like a chicken on a june bug.

:kick::kick::kick:

charlie do u copy.....

not natsec.....the usa is 230 years old, and national security has never depended upon lawlessness on part of the government (in fact, the us constitution thinks it's government itself which by its nature to accrue power illegally jeopardizes the people's freedom etc, not arabic camel jocks)

I just re-read your post and I still don't undertand what you're trying to say. Seriously, I'm just curious; I'm not against your post or anything.

The 'enemy' is we the people, who must be stroked carefully to achieve certain ends. The ends are 1st in CNN's mind in this piece, not just truth. The story culprit is defined by bush - it's the nytimes's sin of publishing a detail best kept hidden, for nat security's sake! As president, bush defines the terms. period! This is what CNN is saying; the nytimes has jeopardized natsec informing the people, and the reason for this jeopardizing natsec? to sell books (the knowlegable consumer then fills that part in) This is trickery, sleigh of hand posing as news, and it's corrupt and criminal (it's defrauding the 'consumer) in order to assist bush, who's the real sinner before the nytimes, and cnn knows it (otherwise they'd report 'Bush attacks paper for reporting news')

manipulated, lied to, controlled.

The government (including half of Congress), corporations and their media subset, use the public to acheive their goals. And here all along we thought we had a bit of power.

........jeopardizing national security at least in bushes own mind.

Anything that shines light on to the coruption of this putz administration also does the same.....again in his own lack of mind.

I don't remember * being upset at the Chicago Sun Times and Novak for outting a CIA agent working for National Security to track down the sale of WMDs to terrorists?

Why is THIS so different?

Did they know about it during the campaign last year? If so, then Bush ought to be very grateful that the Times sat on the story, and only released it during the holidays. Everybody in Washington knows that people's attention is not really on politics during the holidays.

WARNING! They Are Attempting To Shift Focus!

Pat on MSNBC tried to portray the leaking of the President's crime to the NYT as the bigger crime and drew analogies to the Plame affair. He went on to advocate for another Fitz type Justice Dept. investigation of who leaked this classified information to the NYT and predicted subpeonas for a slew of NYT reporters. He tryed to draw analogies to the Plame investigation (Funny, I bet it won't take Bush long to finger the leakers of the Spy story, although here we are years later and he still claims he has no idea who the Plame leaker(s) is/are.

Pat said this would be the big story of 2006, all the while playing down or refusing to discuss anything about whether the President has committed legal and constitutional crimes. Folks, we cannot allow this "switcher-roo" tactic to succeed. The Dem. on MSNBC did a shitty job of countering Pat's argument and the MSNBC News Bunny seemed to be buying it. We need to portray this for what it is, a diversion away from the real story that Bush has likely used and continues to use powers he does not have under the constitution, and therefore, has/is breaking his oath and the law period.

They want to string up those who witnessed and reported Bush's crime, while letting him skate claiming he abviously has the power to issue these secret (or now, not-so-secret) orders, while those who informed the press are the only real criminals. In other words, "Let's shoot the Messenger(s)!" We need to stop this ded in its tracks! Spread the word!

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/12/17/122930/60

and Alex Twit was the news bunny. I watched that segment and it was awful. Pat buchanan has sold his soul to the devil. Oh, and epstein said that this would never approach impeachment hearings. Never. Thanks you asshat!

was his own.

<http://bushforking.blogspot.com/>

I mean, really.

done his job. He had plenty of warning before 9-11 and could have set the right priorities to prevent the attack.

Instead he gets a pass. Just more evidence that he MIHOP or at least LIHOP.

Thank you for acknowledging the story, commenting, and making sure it gets the attention it should! Nothing like an ape attacking a NY Landmark to get attention from the media!

and was thinking 'TOO perfect!"

Tsk, tsk. :popcorn:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will
support the Constitution of the United States." ...

High crimes and treason, now both are being brought to light. When does this stop?

watched these people, these people who feel they should (no will) dominate the World because they can, because they think they have more weapons and power than God. They never thought that Iraq would fight back. They never thought that the terrorist would then group there and pick off our young men and women like they have a big bullseye on their backs. They never thought that the rest of the World would turn against us because after all, we had the whole World willing to help us if we needed them to. They never thought they would lose the World's support 9/11. They never thought they could actually lose this war. They never thought that countries that use to be strong allies would joined together against us. The real ones running this nightmare, they never thought Dumbya would be as stupid as he is. They never thought he could make them all look so foolish. They never thought that we, now the majority of the American People, Right or left, would ever turn against them. They never thought . . .

I think right now the religious right is getting their due. I blame them, and they need to get from behind their bully pulpits and look at what they have done. They wanted Armeghedin . . . I think what we are getting now is going to be worse. All in all, the Right used the name of our God that they claim they love so much to get this bunch of war mongers in office. Well, they think they did and the Right constantly tells them they did.

I watch/record Falwell every Sunday. What is on that website of his "messages" does not include his political ad libbing. This man has some major issues considering he is a mininster that preaches hate toward a group of people because of their political affiliation. One minute he will say that the Muslims hate us because WE LOVE ISRAEL. Then on the talking-heads' shows, he will stand and tell another person who is Jewish that they will go to Hell because the only way to Heaven is through Jesus Christ. They brought this Hell on this Earth. They brag about they were the reason Bush got s(e)elected. They are the reason there is diginity and "values" in this country again. I don't know about you all; however, my values were not tarnished because of what Clintin did. It was none of my business but the people who have stolen our religion as well as our rights, the true fammily values people seemed to think it was their business as well as tell it to the American People as well as the World. I have to say that I have lost a lot of my religious faith because of this bunch who constantly do everything bad in the name of our God. Remember when the Right was soooooooooooo concerned about Jimmy Carter because he was a Southern Baptist? Bunch of lying ass hypocrits. Also, now we have all of these congressmen who tend to use God in their speeches now. Hey, it worked for Bush!!!!!!!!!

If they can wire tap our phones, keep files on us, obviously watch sites such as DU, and now since they didn't get this particular little paragraph through on the Patriot Act due to a Sunset Clause, yet Bush stands and, basically, says "Hell yeah we did it morons, and we will continue to do it whether it is legal or not, and there ain't a friggin thing you can do about it," they are pretty much doing what they had planned in the first place.

When they start building the internment camps for those of us that may be suspicious, anti-war, anti-Bush, etc., do you think we can get 100,000 people organized to do something? But what could that be???

Surely, I would be disappointed if it wasn't. Uhhhh, helicopters are landing... --uhhh rgqn. grammmdsadf, <keyboard error>..

they cannot read our minds. Well, they do that on science fiction movies on TV. I figured it was true?

if his response is to publicly attack the messenger, the new york times no less, the nations' 'newspaper of record'. funny thing too, i don't see the usual suspects jumping up to defend him this time.

.. urge.. to.. mention... Valerie Plame - oh shod it. Seriously, he whines when a newspaper reveals an illegal method for spying on American citizens, yet is eeringly silent when the talk comes to the outing of a working CIA operative.

I got into a fight with my father about this (I'm home for the holidays- wee!) and he said to me "If you're not doing anything wrong you have nothing to fear." I argued that it was hypocritical at least for a (Bible Belt) Republican to be arguing for government oversight as a mean to protect the citizenry as that's exactly what they've been fighting *against* for years. He honestly buys into the "it's making us safer" argument, and believes that "the only people who would be watched are people doing things that are dangerous." In case this ever comes up again, what's a good response or sources?

during the Cold War.

In other words, Reagan is lauded for fight against exactly what he now says Republicans want to do.

If that doesn't work, tell him that the main goal of any terrorist act is either to exact revenge, alter the society you're attacking, or both. By that measure, he's arguing to grant the real, legitimate terrorists victory on a silver platter.

House Un-American Activities Commission, McCarthy Hearings, Watergate Break-in Victims, Nixon's Enemies List, even the Clinton Impeachment involved evil prying eyes.

Maybe your dad is just a kid and doesn't know about these. He should.

DNA evidence that proved otherwise?

I wonder how many people this country has put to death that were actually innocent?

Just because they "claim" someone is dangerous does not make it so. They have to prove it.

There is to much injustice and prejudice still in this World to let your "peers" judge anyone, or allowing judges to make this an only option for certain crimes in some states.

We have more government now then we every have had. Our current government seems to do anything they want to, even if goes against the Constitution. I don't think any of them have read it.

the gov works for us, we are the boss, if we wanna ass chk, they MUST bend over and spreadem.....period!
what's the bushies got confused is they think they're the boss (yet they cash their salary cheques)

ever they want?

Bush feels entitled to bitch.

That is the usual evolution of dictatorship. We could be headed for a critical, defining moment.

the pResident is shameless!

All I have to say is, "Dissent is the HIGHEST form of patriotism." (Thomas Jefferson)

But since everything is so secret with these fools who would notice or care anyway :shrug:

On Sat. Dec 17, 2005 the president of the United States of America admitted that he authorized illegal wiretaps of U.S. citizens. This is a blatant violation of my civil rights as expressed in the Constitution of the United States. This is the same Constitution that every president has sworn on the bible to uphold and defend.

With his admission, he arrogantly disdains my rights, your rights, and the rights of the very soldiers that he commands this day. His irrational thought process seems to say that “In order to preserve your freedom and privacy, your freedom and privacy must be covertly taken from you.”

Our president cries out that in reporting on his heinous activities, the free press aids terrorists and other enemies of this country. I do not see how this is possible. Enemies of the United States should always fear her and expect her full, focused and purposeful attentions. What I do not understand, is how the erosion of precious freedoms and privacies can be construed as contributing to the defense of our country.

The president’s outrage at having his covert activities exposed is self serving and duplicitous. His claim that disclosing these activities may harm national security seems oddly incongruous in light of the allegations that someone on his senior staff was directly involved in disclosing the identity of a CIA agent for political hay making. Indeed. The vice presidents chief of staff has been indicted for lying to a grand jury about this disgusting affair.

This president has committed multiple impeachable offenses. The only reason that he has not been impeached is that he happens to belong to the same party that enjoys a majority in both the congress and the senate. And now, the president has given the members of his own party reason to pause and question.

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin

I thank them for telling us the truth!

Now, impeach bush!

Dap

George W. Bush's fault.

He breaks the law and blames the institution that brought his crimes to light.

AGREEING with it or CONSENTING to it. they were told. thats it. but some would have us believe that because some dems knew they were a PART of the decision making process. nothing could be farther from the truth.

The president said he allowed the NSA "to intercept the international communications of people with known links to al Qaeda."

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7625.shtml

White House insiders tell disturbing tales of invasion of privacy, abuse of government power and use of expanded authority under the USA Patriot Act to dig into the personal lives of anyone the administration deems an enemy of the state.

Those on the list include former Ambassador Joseph Wilson and his wife, former covert CIA operative Valarie Plame, along with filmmaker and administration critic Michael Moore, Senators like California’s Barbara Boxer, media figures like liberal writer Joe Conason and left-wing bloggers like Markos Moulitsas Zúniga (the Daily Kos) and Ana Marie Cox (Wonkette).

Rove started the list while Bush served as governor of Texas, compiling information on various political enemies in the state and leaking damaging information on opponents to friends in the press. The list grew during Bush’s first run for President in 2000 but the names multiplied rapidly after the terrorist attacks of 2001 and passage of the USA Patriot Act. Using the powers under the act, Rove expanded the list to more than 10,000 names, utilizing the FBI’s “national security letters” to gather private and intimate details on American citizens.

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Your assistance is required.

My guess is he's already at Nixonian levels of madness.

Artists, as a group, tend to be fairly liberal.

Bush in particular has already jeopardized it. What was the Aug 6 PDB all about? How about the 50-plus warnings the FAA had. How about the FBI agents trying to search warrents through existing means, but were rejected.

Bush has already jeopardized our national security, as demonstrated by Sept 2001.

Blame the NYT? Me think the boy doth protest too much

A whole f-in' year to get what they needed on the "terrorists" BEFORE this item was printed. If anything, I'm pissed the NYT held this information at all. IMO, Bush and his cronies should be kissing the NYT editor's collective asses in thanks.

More lies from the liar in cheif.had enought shit yet?

"You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time."
-A. Lincoln

it is time for the Times to come clean and once again become the News paper for the people, and not the agenda of junior's crime cabal.

It is about gaining back the respect of the people who have been duped because of their trust in the NY Times.

besides, i thought bush didn't mess his mind by reading newspapers and such.

continue in arrogance to PROJECT on others domestic/foreign/off world entities....any group they choose-the fear of National Security (that raggedy fig leaf)FROM THEIR OWN MAJOR SCREWUPS and NEGLECT??!!

Keep publishing the truth. Don't back down!

Notice how he said nothing near this serious when the whole Plame outing affair got steamed up. Talk about risking national security and putting citizens at risk, that shoulda qualified. But no... when he's caught illegally spying on American citizens, he holds 2 prime time talks, back to back. Unprecedented by Bush and Presidents over the last 30 or so years.

Watch how they react when poked. He is really riled up this time. Could it be that if the illegally spying party game is over, so is the party?

too late.

wow, just wow...

colossal delusional racist failure*

I hope the media cover this story with some depth. The intelligence law that was violated has provisions to address emergency situations. Federal agencies can start a wiretap if there is an immediate threat, and then can retroactively go to the special secret court to get approval after the fact. The retroactive approval is supposed to happen within 2 days. This special court has approved almost every single request for a wiretap that has been requested by the Feds - it is not a burdensome process. Bush just choose to ignore it.

This post is based upon an NPR interview Friday afternoon with an author of a book about the NSA. He said his friends in the NSA are particularly angry about these illegalities. He said the rank and file Federal employees pride themselves on following the law. Bush's illegal wiretaps were only known to a small cabal of people, not the rank and file of NSA.

It's that they were caught. It's the old boy's school "never squeal" mentality.

Do you know why King James paid for the writing of a new version of the Bible? It was because the version of the Bible that was common at the time frequently used the word "tyrant" when referring to rulers. King James had those references re-written to "King."

thinks he's above the law! I CAN'T FUCKING STAND IT! He's got a Napoleon Complex or something...DAMN HIM! Damn him to Hell for what he's done to this country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(deep breaths...):argh: :nuke: