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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 03:41 PM
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Morales to nationalize Bolivia oil, gas
Wednesday, December 21, 2005 · Last updated 11:53 a.m. PT

Morales to nationalize Bolivia oil, gas

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

LA PAZ, Bolivia -- The winner of Bolivia's presidential elections has repeated his vow to nationalize oil and gas and said he will void at least some contracts held by foreign companies "looting" the poor Andean nation's natural resources.

Indian coca farmer Evo Morales said he will not confiscate refineries or infrastructure owned by multinational corporations. Instead, his government would renegotiate contracts so that the companies are partners, but not owners, in developing Bolivia's resources, he said.

"We will nationalize (Bolivia's) natural resources," Morales said at a news conference Tuesday in La Paz.

"Many of these contracts signed by various governments are illegal and unconstitutional. It is not possible that our natural resources continue to be looted, exploited illegally, and as the lawyers say, these contracts are legally void and must be adjusted," Morales said.
(snip/...)

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/1310AP_Bolivia_Oil_Companies.html
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NoAmericanTaliban Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 03:50 PM
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1. Guess he wouldn't be getting an X-Mass card from Exxon
Morales needs to be careful - otherwise he'll end up being couped or assassinated like what happened in Iran - when the CIA put the Shah in charge. That worked out really well. :sarcasm:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 03:50 PM
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2. As we should.
Clearly, the behavior of our oil companies is not in the best interests of the American people.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 03:51 PM
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3. Sniff, sniff...
Is that a coup I smell a-brewing?

:evilfrown:
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 05:16 PM
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11. do we have any 3rds-in-command at Bergen-Belsen we can call
and direct another coup--like Barbie!
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 03:52 PM
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4. That damned leftest trying to mess with the multinationals' lucrative
contracts might just have to be taught a lesson or two. ;)
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 03:58 PM
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5. Rummy may have a plan to protect his buddies interests there
Would the United States try to destabilize Bolivia's economy while training people how to use military force to insure Enron, Shell, British Gas, Total, Repsol, and the United States continues to get Bolivian gas for pennies on the dollar? You bet your sweet bippy they will.



Dark Armies, Secret Bases, and Rummy



by Conn Hallinan


November 24, 2005

Foreign Policy In Focus - 2005-11-21



It would be easy to make fun of President Bush's recent fiasco at the 4th Summit of the Americas in Mar del Plata, Argentina. His grand plan for a free trade zone reaching from the Artic Circle to Tierra del Fuego was soundly rejected by nations fed up with the economic and social chaos wrought by neoliberalism. At a press conference, South American journalists asked him rude questions about Karl Rove. And the President ended the whole debacle by uttering what may be the most trenchant observation the man has ever made on Latin America: “Wow! Brazil is big!”


But there is nothing amusing about an enormous U.S. base less than 120 miles from the Bolivian border, or the explosive growth of U.S.-financed mercenary armies that are doing everything from training the military in Paraguay and Ecuador to calling in air attacks against guerillas in Colombia. Indeed, it is feeling a little like the run up to the ‘60s and ‘70s, when Washington-sponsored military dictatorships dominated most of the continent, and dark armies ruled the night.


U.S. Special Forces began arriving this past summer at Paraguay's Mariscal Estigarribia air base, a sprawling complex built in 1982 during the reign of dictator Alfredo Stroessner. Argentinean journalists who got a peek at the place say the airfield can handle B-52 bombers and Galaxy C-5 cargo planes. It also has a huge radar system, vast hangers, and can house up to 16,000 troops. The air base is larger than the international airport at the capital city, Asuncion .


Some 500 special forces arrived July 1 for a three-month counterterrorism training exercise, code named Operation Commando Force 6.

<snip>

The base is crawling with U.S. civilians—many of them retired military—working for Military Professional Resources Inc., Virginia Electronics, DynCorp, Lockheed Martin (the world's largest arms maker), Northrop Grumman, TRW, and dozens of others.


It was U.S. intelligence agents working out of Manta who fingered Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia leader Ricardo Palmera last year, and several leaders of the U.S.-supported coup against Haitian President Bertram Aristide spent several months there before launching the 2004 coup that exiled Aristide to South Africa.


“Privatizing” war is not only the logical extension of the Bush administration's mania for contracting everything out to the private sector; it also shields the White House's activities from the U.S. Congress. “My complaint about the use of private contractors,” says U.S. Rep. Jan Schakowsy (D-IL), “is their ability to fly under the radar to avoid accountability.”

<More>

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=HAL20051124&articleId=1322
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 04:21 PM
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6. Kick. n/t
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 08:31 PM
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24. Some serious swindling went on between American countries and Bolivia
It was a shock reading in your great article the following:
A major focus of the unrest in Bolivia is who controls its vast natural gas deposits, the second largest in the Western Hemisphere. Under pressure from the United States and the IMF, Bolivia sold off its oil and gas to Enron and Shell in 1995 for $263.5 million, less than 1% of what the deposits are worth.(snip)
This is GROTESQUE. Doesn't it remind one of paying Manhattan with some beads? You'd think they'd be decent enough to have offered an honorable price. They were undoubtedly able to get around that lapse in decency by bribing a few well-placed European-descended Bolivian officials.

Also, concerning the military/mercenary build-up in the area, from the same article:
Paraguayan denials that Mariscal Estigarribia is now a U.S. base have met with considerable skepticism by Brazil and Argentina . There is a disturbing resemblance between U.S. denials about Mariscal Estigarribia, and similar disclaimers made by the Pentagon about Eloy Alfaro airbase in Manta , Ecuador . The United States claimed the Manta base was a “dirt strip” used for weather surveillance. When local journalists revealed its size, however, the United States admitted the base harbored thousands of mercenaries and hundreds of U.S. troops, and Washington had signed a 10-year basing agreement with Ecuador .

The Eloy Alfaro base is used to rotate U.S. troops in and out of Columbia, and to house an immense network of private corporations who do most of the military's dirty work in Columbia. According to the Miami Herald , U.S. mercenaries armed with M-16s have gotten into fire fights with guerrillas in southern Columbia, and American civilians working for Air Scan International of Florida called in air strikes that killed 19 civilians and wounded 25 others in the town of Santo Domingo.
(snip/...)
Sure hope Latin American is developing the power it will need to get its honor and freedom back from the bullies in Republican administrations who stole everything, and killed so many, many people to do it.

History should be corrected in THIS replay, by God. Instead of getting a SuperNixon in the White House, we need to see the scum defeated every way possible, leaving not even the chance for a discreet early retirement.
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 04:34 PM
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7. Wow! Kinda like Alaska
Sharing the profits generated by the oil sucked from the Alaska underground.

180
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 05:20 PM
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12. I Don't Think So
Edited on Wed Dec-21-05 05:20 PM by stepnw1f
And nobody should be allowed to extract anything from protected lands.
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 05:30 PM
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13. You misunderstand
I am referring to the 'leasing' of Alaska oil deposits to the oil companies and those monies being shared with the citizens of Alaska via the Alaska Permanent Fund. It is (shhhh)sort of a socialistic program and it is why Stevens is hot to extract the oil.

Nationalize the natural resources.

180
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 06:19 PM
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15. It Is Not Going to Be Shared with Anybody
And no it is not a sort of a "socialistic program". What a lie!
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 06:43 PM
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17. Google 'Alaska Permanent Fund'
See for yourself how Alaska oil revenues are shared with the state of Alaska creating an annual dividend check for every man woman and child resident of the state of Alaska.

Yes and it is sharing the wealth generated by harvesting natural resources. Socialist by any standard. Too bad all the states do not have such a progressive idea.

Not a lie at all. Hee hee hee

180
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 06:49 PM
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18. hee hee.... Yes It Is
It's destroying something more valuable than a couple years of oil.

Hee hee
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 07:08 PM
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19. I fail to understand
why you deny the existence of the Alaska Permanent Fund. It might interest you to know that the same Socialistic program was suggested for the people of Iraq. (But quickly scrapped)

How progressive it is to be actually sharing mineral wealth with the people.

It is a great idea and on further searching I see the idea is spreading to other states in the USA. Bravo I say.

180
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 07:21 PM
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21. Yeah... I Bet You Are Hoping We Destroy All Public Lands Too
just so the rich can get richer. Sharing my ass...

All you want is to drill or mine on public lands..
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 07:34 PM
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22. Nonsense
You are not listening.

I do not wish to have any drilling in ANWAR.

Fact: Harvesting oil in ANWAR benefits the citizens of Alaska because by law they get a piece of the action through partial funding of their Alaska Permanent Fund in turn guaranteeing all Alaskans an annual dividend check. Socialism.

That is the reason Stevens wants to have the drilling commence ASAP.

180
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 07:46 PM
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23. So Dishonest it Really Is a Waste of Time
If they allow companies to mine or drill in Park, all parks will be in danger. There is a grander agenda here and you and I know it.

more like 15%. Enjoy talking to yourself!
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 11:56 PM
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30. I think you two are talking past each other...
180 mentioned that Morales' program is similar in structure to Alaska's CURRENT system of "profit" sharing, and that both are socialistic in nature. This is a simple fact. You took that to mean that he was for drilling in ANWR, I don't know how you made that leap.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 04:50 PM
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8. But the oil companies invested a lot of money into this!
They had the forsight to bury the dinosaurs in the ground many years ago, and now they are rightfully reaping the profit! Darn those bolivians!
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 05:12 PM
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9. The CIA Is Going To Run Out Of Cruise Missiles . . .
oops, i mean 'accidents', at this rate.

Venezuela, Bolivia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Nigeria, Azerbaijan, Uzbekistan, etc etc . . .
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 05:14 PM
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10. Excellent!
I hope this happens in all places in the developing world.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 05:53 PM
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14. Good -- wish we would
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 06:23 PM
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16. as resources SHOULD be.. Natural resources belong to the PEOPLE
of that country. they should not be in "private" hands , to be bought and sold for personal profit.

What do the local Bolivians gain when their natural gas is sold off to rich countries, and the result is that their land gets ravaged, their rivers polluted, and then THEY have no access top the natural gas themselves.

Every country should guarantee its populace a modicum of comforts.. heat, clean water, land to grow food, access to education & medical care..
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 07:09 PM
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20. Good for Marales.
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cire4 Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 08:40 PM
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25. I sure hope this guy travels with alot of bodyguards....
I'm sure there are quite a few hits out on him already. And it wouldn't surprise me if at least some of those hits were traced back to Washington...
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 10:11 PM
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27. Or traced to SOA or WHINSWC or whatever the hell they call it today
What is the SOA?

The School of the Americas (SOA), in 2001 renamed the “Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation,” is a combat training school for Latin American soldiers, located at Fort Benning, Georgia.

Initially established in Panama in 1946, it was kicked out of that country in 1984 under the terms of the Panama Canal Treaty. Former Panamanian President, Jorge Illueca, stated that the School of the Americas was the “biggest base for destabilization in Latin America.” The SOA, frequently dubbed the “School of Assassins,” has left a trail of blood and suffering in every country where its graduates have returned.

Over its 59 years, the SOA has trained over 60,000 Latin American soldiers in counterinsurgency techniques, sniper training, commando and psychological warfare, military intelligence and interrogation tactics. These graduates have consistently used their skills to wage a war against their own people. Among those targeted by SOA graduates are educators, union organizers, religious workers, student leaders, and others who work for the rights of the poor. Hundreds of thousands of Latin Americans have been tortured, raped, assassinated, “disappeared,” massacred, and forced into refugee by those trained at the School of Assassins.

http://www.soaw.org/new/type.php?type=8
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 09:59 PM
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26. Damned Commies!
Good for him. Taking care of his people.
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hollowdweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 10:45 PM
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28. Having lived my whole life in a coal producing state


It is refreshing to see some countries taking steps to see that the natural resources of the area are benefiting the greatest number of citizens.

From what I have seen firsthand natural resource companies contribute very little in the way of jobs or wealth for the majority of people who must share the land with their operations.

Also most coal, oil, gas production is dirty and causes a degradation of living conditions for an area that really offsets any boost it gives to the area economically. Also the work is very hard and wears peoples bodies out and they get broken down and have to be subsidized by the taxpayers.

In addition since they DO generate a LOT of money for a FEW people, that allows those people to have excess money that they can use unfairly influence the political system in the areas they operate on.

The areas that are the richest in natural resources should be the most affluent, with the most educated people and best quality of life due to the money generated. However it is usually the exact opposite.

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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 11:40 PM
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29. Morales to face difficulties at home and abroad
Morales to face difficulties at home and abroad
By Jan-Uwe Ronneburger Dec 19, 2005, 19:09 GMT

La Paz, Bolivia - Exit polls showing a victory for Evo Morales in Bolivia's presidential elections also confirmed a Latin American trend: leftist-nationalist governments.

Feeding the trend has been the experiment with neoliberalism, which brought economic reforms such as privatizations and opened markets and has proven unpopular in Latin America. Criticism of it was a backbone of Morales' campaign.

'The people have defeated the neoliberals,' Morales said Sunday night in a victory speech. '... We want to change the neoliberal model. Starting next year, we're going to change the history of Bolivia, with peace and social justice.'

Morales' target was not only conservative politicians at home but also what he calls U.S. imperialism abroad.
(snip/...)

http://news.monstersandcritics.com/southamerica/article_1070012.php/Morales_to_face_difficulties_at_home_and_abroad
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 12:30 AM
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31. Countdown for a USA-sponsored coup-de-etat in Bolivia
Edited on Thu Dec-22-05 12:30 AM by Julius Civitatus
Wasn't this way how it all started in Chile?

I'm depressed already. You know Cheney won't stay idle. We are talking oil here!

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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 02:16 AM
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32. Boliva has oil, but natural gas is the plum the robber barons want
Huge proven reserves of natural gas, and the game is on. The object of the game is to get a pipeline built to the Pacific coast so they can ship the compressed nautral gas to California. Oh, China wants a bit of it, too, so the rules might get a little dicey. Buckle up for the South American Gas Wars in the coming years.

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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 03:59 AM
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33. Good on him!
Hopefully the parliment elections to occur soon back him up!
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