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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 05:43 PM
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House passes a one-month extension of the Patriot Act
Edited on Thu Dec-22-05 05:54 PM by seemslikeadream
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/12/22/patriot.act.ap/index.html

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The House passed a one-month extension of the Patriot Act on Thursday and sent it to the Senate for final action as Congress scrambled to prevent expiration of anti-terror law enforcement provisions on December 31.

Approval came on a voice vote in a nearly empty chamber, after Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wisconsin, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, refused to agree to a six-month extension the Senate cleared several hours earlier.

House passage marked the latest step in a stalemate that first pitted Republicans against Democrats in the Senate, then turned into an intramural GOP dispute.

It was not clear when the Senate would act on the one-month bill, but approval was possible by evening.

Without action by Congress, several provisions enacted in the days following the 2001 terror attacks are due to expire. President Bush has repeatedly called on Congress not to let that happen.

Sensenbernner (R-WI) Holding Up Patriot Act Extention
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5670782
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 05:46 PM
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1. So - now we will see if his heinous veto's the extension. n/t
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Geoff R. Casavant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 05:49 PM
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2. Now this is odd
Edited on Thu Dec-22-05 06:03 PM by Geoff R. Casavant
The Patriot Act is set to expire on December 31, okay I get that.

So Sensie-boy wants a one-month extension, which I assume means that, if passed, the Pat Act will now expire on January 31.

Here's what gets me -- isn't that the same day the House starts up again after the recess? Is Sensie planning on having committes meetings, hearings, and votes on the first day back, and just hope the Senate does the same?

What an ass.

On Edit: Okay, I see reports now that the new expiration date will be February 3, so there's at least some time to actually work before voting.

Sensenbrenner's still an ass, tho.
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 07:16 PM
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8. I think it is a loss for us. They are trying to prevent hearings.
They probably don't have anyone to testify that the Patriot Act actually accomplished anything. They want it as a symbol. Hearings would make that impossible.
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 05:51 PM
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3. I'll see your month and raise you a month! Your turn!
Edited on Thu Dec-22-05 05:51 PM by MadisonProgressive
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 05:52 PM
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4. Sensenbernner is NOT from Washington State!
Please change it... He is from WI.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 05:55 PM
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5. Sorry I changed it but it was not my thread title
:hi:
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 05:58 PM
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6. Thanks!!!
:hi:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 07:13 PM
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7. sorry to say that Stenny boy is from my homestate!
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bpyatt Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 09:17 PM
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9. Congress has sent President Bush a one-month extension of Patriot Act
www.cnn.com

Breaking News

I thought it was 6 months earlier in the day....
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 09:17 PM
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10. It was six months when the Senate..
.. voted for it.

But the House changed it to six weeks.

hehheh

Sue
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bpyatt Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 09:17 PM
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11. more info
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bpyatt Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 09:17 PM
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16. Not sure how it's a dupe
It was breaking news as in finalized 2 minutes ago :)

I don't post much but have been lurking for awhile now, thanks :)
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 09:17 PM
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21. Welcome to DU, bpyatt!
Sometimes different news sources get the news out earlier, so that might be the problem here. So someone else may have had a link to a different, earlier source. No biggie (it's the thought that counts, imho).
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 09:17 PM
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12. Will Chimp sign it?
I heard the whacko filling in for Insanity say today that Chimp won't sign a short extension. He wants it permanent.
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 09:17 PM
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22. I'm pretty sure I heard on MSNBC that this is a deal worked out with Bush.
He had to back down from his earlier statements about not signing a short extension!

And what do you want to bet that it was realizing that 6 months would put them right in the middle of campaign season that got them to shorten the time from the 6 months that the Senate wanted?
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 09:17 PM
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13. dupe
welcome to DU. Be sure to do the search button before you post so that you won't create a dupe thread.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 09:17 PM
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15. OP is not a donor, thus can't use the search function unless the
features have changed without me knowing.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 10:15 PM
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26. thanks ET...I didn't look for the star
I keep thinking that everyone wants to keep DU going and contributes...silly me...this economy is killer for so many things. When you post without the star, does the list of recent posts pop up? Just wondering.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 09:17 PM
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14. How nice
And welcome to DU, bpyatt........... :applause:
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 09:17 PM
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17. You really have to wonder what this bullshit is about.
One month, six months, things done in the dead of night by chicanery, little spats among the Congresspersons. Somehow I don't think this is about fending off terror.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 09:17 PM
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18. Sadly true
I'm quite sure this is all about power and a bunch of little boys spitting and punching. Too bad they are playing with big boy toys.
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MrTriumph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 09:17 PM
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19. MSM hides the story. Today's events have left Bush naked & looking foolish
Were this a Democratic House, Dem. Senate & Dem. Pres., the MSM would be producing special features about government in disarray, about a failed presidency, about leadership crisis.
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 09:22 PM
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23. This AM, Bush more or less claimed victory for this deal he didn't want!
And nobody, after the address he gave, called him on it!e

I've never heard such spinning! Even later in the day a lot of what I heard on MSM didn't mention what a big loss this was for Bush. I guess a lot of the media were fooled by the spin? (Although Andrea Mitchell, filling in for Tweety, to her credit, did call it accurately.)
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existentialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 12:17 AM
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32. Maybe MSM isn't covering it that way
But we KNOW those things about a government in disarray, a failed presidency and a leadership crisis are true, and so do increasing numbers--continually increasing numbers-- of people. One online poll today had 85% voting that Bush's wiretaps constituted an impeachable offense.


OK, the poll wasn't scientific, OK, so it got DUed, but 85% with over 100,000 people voting means something.
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 09:17 PM
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20. Bad link...here's a good one. It was the Senate that voted earlier.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 09:27 AM
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34. The workings of the House & Senate have become a mystery to me.
I used to think I knew most of the rules, but the Republicans have been adding and subtracting pages from the rulebook and now I'm completely confused. Can anyone provide a link for the list of House and Senate rules?
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 09:31 PM
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24. hmmm
this is so the republicans won't have to face a 'civil liberties' issue during the midterm election campaigns?
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 09:37 PM
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25. I bet when they go home, they're going to get ears full from the people
about voting for this bill! Majority of America don't want this shit!
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 12:03 AM
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27. Congress Extends Patriot Act for One Month (Senate just went with House)
WASHINGTON - Congress on Thursday approved a one-month extension of the Patriot Act and sent it to President Bush in a pre-Christmas scramble to prevent many of its anti-terrorism provisions from expiring Dec. 31.

The Senate, with only Sen. John Warner (news, bio, voting record), R-Va., present, approved the Feb. 3 expiration date four hours after the House, with a nearly empty chamber, bowed to Rep. James Sensenbrenner's refusal to agree to a six-month extension.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/patriot_act
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 12:03 AM
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28. This is uncalled for and should be illegal!!
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existentialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 12:03 AM
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29. That's going to be interesting:
1) McClellan stated earlier to day that while the 90 day extension was an unacceptable "short term" extension that the six month extension was acceptable because it was not "short term" and thus was acceptable to the White House .

2) Last I knew the Senate was going to reconvene Jan. 15, 2006, but the House of Representatives was not going to reconvene until January 31, 2006--this scheduling courtesy of Hastert as an apparent courtesy to DeLay who had hoped that his legal troubles would be behind him by then and he could return to being House majority leader--looks like that isn't going to work so well either . . . .
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 12:03 AM
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30. only Warner present?
:wtf:

dp
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 12:03 AM
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31. Delaying the inevitable.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 09:20 AM
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33. Mods, this is a different story from the one it was combined with.
This is a later breaking story on the SENATE going with the House. The other story is an earlier story about the HOUSE passage.

but, whatever. who needs details.
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