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Thom Little Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 08:29 PM
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God and country bills could dominate election-year session
With the regular session scheduled to begin Jan. 10, lawmakers from both sides of the political aisle are pushing bills that would require the teaching of a Bible class in Alabama schools, place the words "God Bless America" on car tags, post the words "In God We Trust" in public school classrooms and post the Ten Commandments on classroom walls.

These types of bills, sometimes called "God and country legislation," are introduced during every session of the Legislature, but some experts say two factors could give the bills a greater presence in the upcoming session - the re-election legislators face in 2006 and the shadow of Ten Commandments Judge Roy Moore, who has announced plans to run for governor. Moore was ousted as chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court in 2003 after he refused a federal court order to move a Ten Commandments monument from the rotunda of the Alabama Judicial Building.

"I think Roy Moore getting so much mileage out of Ten Commandments controversy has encouraged other politicians to say `I need to do that too,'" said Jess Brown, political science professor at Athens State University.

While Republicans have traditionally introduced bills dealing with prayer in schools and other religious issues, "Godly" bills prefiled for the upcoming session seem to know no political boundaries. The bill to allow school boards in Alabama to offer high school courses in Bible literacy is sponsored by the top two Democrats in the Alabama House, Speaker Seth Hammett, D-Andalusia, and Rep. Ken Guin, D-Carbon Hill, the House majority leader.



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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 08:39 PM
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1. For the x-millionth time...
Can't an "omnipotent" god-critter speak for Its Almighty Self?

Why the f!ck does Its Awesome Omnipotence need the help of the Alabama legislature? Has their been an outbreak of rampant Commie atheism in Birmingham or something?

Usual Disclaimer: I'm a grumpy atheist, and I grew up 40 miles from Bob Jones University.
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Agnomen Donating Member (420 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 08:49 PM
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4. I suspect the omnipotent god-critter is too busy
laughing his/hers divine ass off at human critters idiocy (free will, remember?)
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 08:39 PM
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2. hypocrites
how many of these boobs actually read and follow the 10 commandments?
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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 08:42 PM
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3. I can't believe the Dems are pitching that class in Alabama
and that some people here are actually supporting them.
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 02:08 AM
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7. Meet the "New Democrats"
A Republican by any other name would smell as, er, sweet.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 08:52 PM
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5. So which version of the ten commandments will they post?
The Jewish version?

The Catholic version?

of the Protestant version?

Posting one religion's version of the ten commandments IS government establishment of religion.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 08:56 PM
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6. I can't respond as I'd like to
Edited on Sat Dec-24-05 08:57 PM by kgfnally
because every christian (SIC) on this board would take offense.

Allow me to only say that I have come to beileve all religions are mostly fictional, with only fractional parts of the truth, and none hold the whole truth, no matter how desperately (and I use that word very specifically and intentionally) they claim otherwise.

I'd like to say how I REALLY feel, but I may be banned for doing so. Unless I'm asked to do so, therefore, I will hold my peace.

Be advised, though: I have come to take a VERY dim view of both christians and christianity. I used to think differently, but I'm an adult now, and I now know better.
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 02:14 AM
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8. "Bible literacy" is to literacy as Intelligent Design is to science.
Shame on the oafs who are sponsoring this idiocy. Could the Democratic Party exercise a little quality control, eh?

You'd think a nation mired in a losing war, swamped in debt, reeling from moral and legal crises in its governance, and slipping behind the world in every metric of education would seriously undertake to educate its young so that they don't turn out to be as stupid as their parents!
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 02:31 AM
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9. well, if they're going to do it
then it should be directly from the aramaic translation. If you read the aramaic translation of the Beatitudes, you'll find a very different translation from the King James Bible. Are the classes elective or will students be forced to participate? I am so glad that my children are grown, I'd be in school everyday with the crap that's going down now in the school system.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 03:45 AM
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10. Good. I mean, it's not as if this country has any REAL problems
to worry about. I'm glad they're at least focusing on the important stuff.:sarcasm:
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 09:19 AM
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11. even after this stuff gets shot down by courts repeatedly ?
they really are sad people, obsessed about forcing their 'faith' upon others.
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