Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

NYT: Illegally in the U.S., and Never a Day Off at Wal-Mart

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:06 AM
Original message
NYT: Illegally in the U.S., and Never a Day Off at Wal-Mart
Edited on Wed Nov-05-03 12:43 AM by rmpalmer
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/05/national/05WALM.html?hp

They came from Russia, Poland and Lithuania, and their tales of washing and waxing Wal-Mart's floors for seven nights a week sound much like Pavel's.

Last February, Pavel responded to an intriguing Web site that boasted of cleaning jobs in the United States paying four times what he was earning as a restaurant manager in the Czech Republic. He flew from Prague to New York on a tourist visa and took a bus to Lynchburg, Va., where a subcontractor delivered him to a giant Wal-Mart.

Pavel immediately began on the midnight shift and said he soon learned that he would never receive a night off. He said he worked every night for the next eight months. In this way, Pavel, who refused to give his last name, became one pawn among hundreds employed by subcontractors that clean Wal-Mart stores across the nation, paying many workers off the books.

Pavel's unhappy stay in the United States ended with a shock when federal agents raided 60 Wal-Marts on Oct. 23 and arrested him and 250 other janitors as being illegal immigrants. Yesterday, the company acknowledged that it had received a target letter from federal prosecutors accusing it of violating immigration laws and saying that Wal-Mart faced a grand jury investigation.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:10 AM
Response to Original message
1. Wal-Mart: The new slaveholders...
I wonder if they'd shoot you if you ran away...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 12:40 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. And lethal to democracy
Agreed completely.

Already Bush's speeches are piped over the PA systems. And as the SF Chronicle reported the other day, Wal-Mart's hiring tele-flaks at $10/hr to campaign against local ordinances in order to keep Wal-Mart wages frozen at $8/hr. How is that for an FU to its virtual prison labor?

Orwell warned us to imagine the future as a place where a boot stamps a face, forever. Orwell hadn't seen Wal-Mart.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 07:59 AM
Response to Original message
3. Virtual slave labor in Asia supplies Walmart
...with much of their goods. Many of these workers get 18 cents an hour. While Walmart has american flags everywhere over 90 percent of what they sell is imported, usually from countries with no unions or protection for labor of any kind. No unions in Walmart either.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 08:23 AM
Response to Original message
4. God, I hate this company soooo much!
They are sheer evil.

:evilfrown:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
progressiverealist Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 08:26 AM
Response to Original message
5. my staunchly repug in-laws refuse to shop anywhere else
and, they tell my wife and I that not buying at Wal-Mart, we are subverting, more or less, the american free enterprise system, since Wal-Mart does have the lowest prices.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 09:07 AM
Response to Reply #5
6. Yes, I hear that too
My mother claims that WalMart keeps the prices at other stores down. Plus, people around here say, "But those workers wouldn't have any jobs at all if it wasn't for WalMart." The ignore all the employers that WalMart has put out of business.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 09:23 AM
Response to Reply #5
7. Geez, that's stupid.
Isn't it quintessentially American to be able to *choose* where one shops?

I know how you feel--my best friend refuses to stop shopping there. For so many people, "the lowest price" is their bottom line.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 10:13 AM
Response to Reply #7
8. Hand copies of this article to your friends and family who still. .. .
. . .. shop at that pit of despair.

As I've mentioned in a couple of other threads on this subject, people can be turned toward the light. My husband has gently but persistently plied one of his co-workers, a notorious defender of Wal-Mart, with news and views on the evils thereof. It took about a year, but this guy and his wife now no longer shop there.

Hubby will be taking a copy of this article with him tonight, just as reinforcement. Can't have any backsliding!


Tansy Gold, ex-Wal-Mart associate who knows the evil from the inside
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 10:37 AM
Response to Reply #8
10. Actually, I emailed them
your post from last week about working at Wal-Mart. Unfortunately, my best friend told me she would never stop shopping there, I would just have to get over it.

On the bright side, another friend responded and we are having a very civilized discussion about it.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mumon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-03 10:26 AM
Response to Reply #5
9. If't that's "subverting" "free enteriprise"
then it's time we ditched the "free" enterprise system (or should we say "enslaving" enterprise system) altogether.

We certainly have to ditch the Walmart method.

They should be FORCED to use the following slogan in all their advertisements:

"Cheap junk made by slave labor sold to you by underpaid, overworked, workers."

You know those workers in their ads in the Sunday paper?

The first time I saw that I did a double-take- "These are the fatest, ugliest, models wearing the shoddiest clothing I ever saw..." Then I realized that they were employees and that what they were really saying is working at Wal Mart makes you look like this!

The idea of "models" for Walmart clothes etc. makes me shiver.

They sell diamond engagement rings at Wal Mart for $50.

That sums it up for me.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 18th 2024, 02:20 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC