Australian Jews worry they could be next

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It's always worth remembering that freedom is indivisible and hatred is fungible.

even a rightwinger like PM John Howard had to sent mass police force to take control of the beaches.

I'd like to hear another side of this one.

And here it is:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=199

Consider this posted.

leader (Iran this time) has informed us the holocost never happened.

All those people are just on long vaccations, I guess.
:sarcasm:

that every country with a squarehead leader is having vermin coming out of the woodwork. Poor Oz. Hang in there.

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Did you forget the sarcasm tag, or did you mean to spew this filth?

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First They Came for the Jews

First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.

Pastor Martin Niemöller

Kristallnacht

Almost immediately upon assuming the Chancellorship of Germany, Hitler began promulgating legal actions against Germany's Jews. In 1933, he proclaimed a one-day boycott against Jewish shops, a law was passed against kosher butchering and Jewish children began experiencing restrictions in public schools. By 1935, the Nuremberg Laws deprived Jews of German citizenship. By 1936, Jews were prohibited from participation in parliamentary elections and signs reading "Jews Not Welcome" appeared in many German cities. (Incidentally, these signs were taken down in the late summer in preparation for the 1936 Olympic Games in Berlin).

In the first half of 1938, numerous laws were passed restricting Jewish economic activity and occupational opportunities. In July, 1938, a law was passed (effective January 1, 1939) requiring all Jews to carry identification cards. On October 28, 17,000 Jews of Polish citizenship, many of whom had been living in Germany for decades, were arrested and relocated across the Polish border. The Polish government refused to admit them so they were interned in "relocation camps" on the Polish frontier.

Among the deportees was Zindel Grynszpan, who had been born in western Poland and had moved to Hanover, where he established a small store, in 1911. On the night of October 27, Zindel Grynszpan and his family were forced out of their home by German police. His store and the family's possessions were confiscated and they were forced to move over the Polish border. Zindel Grynszpan's seventeen-year-old son, Herschel, was living with an uncle in Paris. When he received news of his family's expulsion, he went to the German embassy in Paris on November 7, intending to assassinate the German Ambassador to France. Upon discovering that the Ambassador was not in the embassy, he settled for a lesser official, Third Secretary Ernst vom Rath. Rath, was critically wounded and died two days later, on November 9.

The assassination provided Goebbels, Hitler's Chief of Propaganda, with the excuse he needed to launch a pogrom against German Jews. Grynszpan's attack was interpreted by Goebbels as a conspiratorial attack by "International Jewry" against the Reich and, symbolically, against the Fuehrer himself. This pogrom has come to be called Kristallnacht, "the Night of Broken Glass."

More:
http://www.mtsu.edu/~baustin/knacht.html

Kristallnacht Aussie Style

Australia's Fueh... er... Prime Minister John Howard has refused to attribute the race riots to racism. Hmm... Anyway, below are some highlights of Howard's career, which may shed some light on the current events. He predicted, in 1985, that "The times will suit me." Not that the times do suit him, but that they will. He has made his self-fulfilling prophecy come true by pursuing policies such as:

* Opposition to multiculturalism
* Promotion of "a shared national identity"
* Claims that the rate of Asian immigration was too high
* Repudiation of any accommodation with Asia or the Aborigines
* Turning away Asian asylum seekers on the high seas
* "Border protection" issues
* Enthusiastic participation in the war on Iraq

Obviously, the race riots have nothing to do with racism. If they did, John Howard would know... http://alse.blogspot.com
Submitted by Al S E on Tue, 2005-12-13 10:19.

More:
http://pbahq.smartcampaigns.com/node/1769

* crushing Student campus life (VSU legislation)
* Creating draconian sedition and counter-terrorism laws (but mainly the sedition laws are what's draconian)
* Crushing 1930's-style Industrial Relations reform (destroying unions)

And the best bit about your post was the bit that you got wrong, which allows me to make Howard even worse:

The time he turned away asylum seekers to win an election: they weren't Asian, they were Middle-Eastern, and he said "We have unconfirmed reports that there might be terrorists on those boats."

This was in November 2001.

Maybe The Gay and Lesbian Kingdom of The Coral Seas can offer them assylum.

you're gonna write off 20 million people?

The "election" of George Bush, the disenfranchisement of 50,000 people in Florida, the completely inept response to Katrina, the levels of working poor etc etc aren't exactly things to be proud of either.

if you can think of a country with that harbours no racists, sexists, bigot etc please let me know, I'd love to live there.

Back on the OP, the fuckwits in Cronulla made anyone of non anglo-australian backgrounds nervous, so naturally this is reflected within the Jewish community, however the Jewish community is relatively small and also not noticably "different" (excepting the small orthodox community around St Kilda/Elsternwick) so generally aren't the focus of our homegrown rednecks.

That's not to say that there is no anti-semitism, but most incidents tend to be cases of young, impressionable and stupid kids spray painting swastikas because they think they're hardcore, rather than any organised or institutionalised victimisation - not saying that makes it fun, but with a larger and more visible "target" I think the Jewish community have little to worry about in the main. While we do have small "whitepower" type groups our racists are mostly of the the unorganised yobbo variety and right now with the visibility of the Arab/Islamic community and the dog whistle racism emanating from Canberra I think the focus is going to stay with that group for now.

The riots had nothing to do with Australia's Jewish community. In fact, thiskind of thing will only make things worse.

This kind of thing REALLY annoys me - "Older members of the Australian Jewish community still vividly remember some of the pogroms suffered by Eastern European communities and the scenes of unrest in Sydney vividly reminded them of the riots in which Jews were attacked and killed and Jewish property set alight."

Why in feck are decades-old incidents from another continent being brought up in a completely different context?

Yes, the Jewish people have had a terrible history - but not in Australia. In fact, the Jewish peopl;e have prospered in Australia and as an Australian, I find this tendency toward victimhood vastly frustrating.

You don't see the Timorese linking the riots with the Indonesian invasion slaughtered a third of their population, or Irish-Australian comparing it to Orange marches to Chinese-Australians comparing to Tienanmen, so why this angle?

and paid Jewish?israeli lobbyists. Many Jews would have shivered to see the Cronulla Nazi's on the prowl and you can't fault them for that - it was highly disturbing, but as a general rule very very few Jewish Australians would have viewed in it a forthcoming rise in anti-semitism.

the link to the orig J-POst article is broken so I can't tell which "leaders" were interwieved/quoted for the article but I could take a pretty acurate guess and they'd be the usual suspects that not one Jew I know beleives speaks for them, let alone "leads" them.

these people are rent-a-quotes, and you come up with any subject AT ALL and they'll find an angle for their own media whoring satisfaction.

we should fall for thinking a carefully crafted line coming from pro-likudnik organisations - funded by your Gutnicks et al - pass for real opinion.

that 'rent a quotes' come from all organizations including Muslim ones as well.

I get the impression that many liberals are easilly willing to point out to the ADL or some such organization, but at the same time are perfectly willing to gloss over similar statements made by CAIR. I've seen enough media whoring by them as well.

Jews have learned, through tough experience, that when other minority groups get persecuted, Jews are usually next. When haters start breaking out the swastikas, Jews know that, sooner or later, there will be anti-semitic violence. It follows as night follows the day. Jews know the hard truth in the saying, "If they come for you tonight, they'll come for me in the morning."

Tucker

It sounds like a nation full of racist, rabid freepers. Is that correct or no?

Australian jews are some of the most powerful and influential people in the country. Frank Lowy, who is the chairman of Westfields AND chairman of the Football Australia (Australian soccer federation) just happens to be John Howard's BEST FRIEND.

The right wingers who went after the minorities in Sydney were displaying an anti-muslim and anti-arab brand of racism. Hardly the types who make the pro-Likud Mr Lowy nervous...

...in the country." So they could never be a target. :eyes: