White House denies Bush actions contradict earlier remarks

convoluting the truth. I've heard that quote, and others, where Bush said one had to get a court order before snooping would begin. I'd say that back then he wasn't sure he could get away with spying-after all, this was before the election- and now he thinks he can.

weren't listening. Turns out to be untrue?

On his Dec 19 news conference, I was shocked to hear him say this. But he slipped it in none the less. I thought sure this statement would raise eyebrows and warrant further questions but nobody seemed to notice:

...these calls are not intercepted within the country, they are from outside the country to in the country or vice versa.
George W Bush - Washington DC December 19, 2005

Seems all anybody paid attention to was that he was saying these calls that are intercepted are ony from outside the country. That quick little "or vice versa" was in and of itself a confession to his treason.

The little mug is sittin' there in 'is bed raving mad like a monster.

WHERE are the priests!!

'all your phone calls are belong to us' is :eyes:

what is constitutional and what isn't. The people pulling his strings, they know, and they know that he doesn't know, so they can get him to say anything they tell him to say. That's why it is so easy for him to explain away an obvious lie. I'm not absolving him of responsibility for what he says but to look at him as anything but a puppet is giving him more credit than he deserves.

"I did not contradict my earlier remarks on the spy program; not a single time! These allegations are false, and I need to go back to spying on the American people!"

denies actions contradicts

What a great headline.

:)

The scumbag is clearly on record as saying that a wiretap requires a court order.

And now we learn he hasn't been acquiring those court orders before wiretapping.

FLIP-FLOP. FLIP-FLOP!

:rofl:

"That statement is no longer operative."

"I am not a crook!"

government agencies that are doing the listening? Not directly of course - probably through massive corporate tax breaks and corporate welfare checks.

He doesn't draw any distinction between
foreign and domestic wiretaps here.
Neither does Cheney (see the video)

"Any time you hear the United States talk about wiretap,
it requires, a wiretap requires a court order.
Nothing has changed, by the way"
"The government can't move on on wiretaps, on roving wiretaps
without getting a court order"
"everything you hear about requires court order, requires there be permission
from a FISA court."
-President Bush. Just a few of many similar statements he made
during last year's election campaign touting the FISA court oversight.
Video compilation here:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/12/23.html#a6451

a legal wiretap requires a court order. That is true.

However he just left out that an illegal wiretap does not require a court order. That's classified, see.

and he repeated it. Again and again, if it was really him talking. He has to repeat and repeat and repeat.

Do you think he could just be a robot that gets stuck and someone has to give him a shove from the back to get him going. Maybe that is what that little box really is - it gives an electrical shock that keeps him moving.

out of context at times. No one is asking, it isn't the subject.

Reminds me of a lying boyfriend years ago. He kept bringing up out of the blue how I was the only woman he was seeing, how this one or that one was just a friend. I wasn't asking, it wasn't the topic and so I knew he must be lying. He was.

And it reminds me of bush's assertion "You forgot Poland". Well bush, we don't forget it now with the nice secret prison there.

bush's box needs rewiring. Or disconnection.

None of the good guys will get wire tapped without a warrent, just the bad guys.

Where is my GI Joe doll....

"The 4th Amendment of the Constitution demands it... oversight committees within all three branches of the U.S. government ensure it... and NSA employees, as U.S. citizens, have a vested interest in upholding it. Respecting the law is only a part of gaining Americans' trust."

It's what I said cancelled all his pretenses that he was entitled. If you are entitled, you don't hide about it reassuring people you aren't doing it

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/04/20040420-2.html
"Secondly, there are such things as roving wiretaps. Now, by the way, any time you hear the United States government talking about wiretap, it requires -- a wiretap requires a court order. Nothing has changed, by the way. When we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're talking about getting a court order before we do so."

You see, that was about the abusive Patriot Act, but W found a way (legal. I tell ya) to abuse even that one.

As for the title of this article, it's so delicious, it's my new signature

" White House denies Bush actions contradict earlier remarks"

Fer Christ's sake...........:shrug:

Really don't know up from down
and right from wrong.

And what's worse... they insist
in forcing their corrupt and criminal
ways down the gullet of every American
(including our children).

What kind of moral example is that ????

Just say no! Right?

http://www.nsa.gov/kids/
NSA Santa wants to know..
have your parents been naughty,
or nice?

...in the "rabbit hole" where "up" is "down" ... and nothing IS as-is. Ho-hum.

"Who ya gonna believe - me or your lyin' eyes" (Note to Bush: that train has already left the station.)

Amazing to see how the whore press still kisses Bush ass no matter what!

actually. It's not perfect, but I don't think Bush is getting the pass like he used to.

There was an earlier thread on this, here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x180942

Here's a snip of what Barron's had to say:
"AS THE YEAR WAS DRAWING TO A CLOSE, we picked up our New York Times and learned that the Bush administration has been fighting terrorism by intercepting communications in America without warrants. It was worrisome on its face, but in justifying their actions, officials have made a bad situation much worse: Administration lawyers and the president himself have tortured the Constitution and extracted a suspension of the separation of powers . . .

Certainly, there was an emergency need after the Sept. 11 attacks to sweep up as much information as possible about the chances of another terrorist attack. But a 72-hour emergency or a 15-day emergency doesn't last four years . . .

Willful disregard of a law is potentially an impeachable offense. It is at least as impeachable as having a sexual escapade under the Oval Office desk and lying about it later. The members of the House Judiciary Committee who staged the impeachment of President Clinton ought to be as outraged at this situation. They ought to investigate it, consider it carefully and report either a bill that would change the wiretap laws to suit the president or a bill of impeachment.

It is important to be clear that an impeachment case, if it comes to that, would not be about wiretapping, or about a possible Constitutional right not to be wiretapped. It would be about the power of Congress to set wiretapping rules by law, and it is about the obligation of the president to follow the rules in the Acts that he and his predecessors signed into law.

Far too soon to use that O word when talking about the US press. If the press were truly objective, half the stories on air wouldn't be. Much more needs to be done regarding the objective selection of what news goes to press.

Not perfect? Often not even the real news....

Genocide in Africa is not a leading story?

Did you hear 'em talkin' 'bout it on the radio
Did you try to read the writing on the wall
Did that voice inside you say I've heard it all before
It's like Deja Vu all over again

Day by day I hear the voices rising
Started with a whisper like it did before
Day by day we count the dead and dying
Ship the bodies home while the networks all keep score

Did you hear 'em talkin' 'bout it on the radio
Could your eyes believe the writing on the wall
Did that voice inside you say I've heard it all before
It's like Deja Vu all over again

One by one I see the old ghosts rising
Stumblin' 'cross Big Muddy
Where the light gets dim
Day after day another Momma's crying
She's lost her precious child
To a war that has no end

Did you hear 'em talkin' 'bout it on the radio
Did you stop to read the writing at The Wall
Did that voice inside you say
I've seen this all before
It's like Deja Vu all over again
It's like Deja Vu all over again

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from all of the other investigations going on?

and I won't do it again."

:eyes:

(or you need protectin' or whatever)

:evilgrin:

and no, this is not that axe in my hand.

Move along now.

Peace.

Apologies to Jim Carrey from "Liar, Liar"