Clark - on Bush Signing Ban on Late Term Abortion Bill

http://clark04.com/press/release/064/

Press Room

For Immediate Release
Date: November 5, 2003

Clark Responds to President Bush's Signing of the Late Term Abortion Bill

"I am deeply disappointed that President Bush has chosen to make a political statement by signing an anti-choice bill which contains no exception for the life and health of the mother. This bill is unconstitutional, and it sacrifices the health and safety of American women. We should not stand for President Bush's attempts to return this country to the dark days before Roe v. Wade. I stand with the United States Constitution, the United States Supreme Court, and the majority of the American people in believing that our government has no right to come between a woman, her family, and her doctor in making such a personal and private decision."

Wes Clark also excelled in his performance last night with CNN in the debates.

"Father Knows Best" - "Ward Cleaver" thing going on. He should stick with that. It works!

Thank you General, for using the right words! It is ANTI-CHOICE, not Pro-Life!

:bounce:

Bastard!

Nice try, though. :eyes:

I am deeply disappointed that President Bush has chosen to make a political statement by signing an anti-choice bill which contains no exception for the life and health of the mother. "

As said above, "nice try though."

I am more and more impressed weith General Clark.

"partial birth abortion." If a baby is viable outside the womb it should not be destroyed.... except if the life of the mother is at risk. We democrats should not make this a litmus test. The repukes are laying a political landmine out there for us.

A month ago on Keith Olberman, they showed a video image of a 26 week old fetus/baby in the womb. It was not an ultrasound. It was a video. You could see the baby's expressions, smiles and movements. It actually looked like a regular baby outside of the womb but the baby was 26 weeks.

The repukes are going to trot this video out again and again during the election cycle. They are just trying to entrap our guys on hard stances that they can use against them later. Be very careful.

And no thank you, I will not refer to it with the loaded "partial birth" bullshit phrase that the repukes use to smear this particular operation.

The repukes have essentially declared that if a late-term fetus is hydro-encephalitic, the pregnant woman has to go through an extended life-threatening pregnancy and eventual stillbirth to get it out of her. This is what they've legislated, and candidate Clark has taken an admirable stand against it. He can make his case on the basis of women's health.

The notion that women are pregnant for 8 months and suddenly requesting a dialate-and-extract procedure for cosmetic reasons is laughable.

Balla...what would you have said? This is the Age of Spin you know. What he did was point out that Bush does not give a shit about a womans life. Something wrong with that?

...for the health of the mother, health which would be imperiled under forced childbirth of a severely disabled child which would consume all family resources and prevent the birth of a healthy child in the future, something the rightwing jackasses don't understand.

Yes, this is a political ploy, a sop to the antichoice, proslavery goofballs in wingnut churches. I think we'll see it struck down.

They picked this procedure because of the "ick" factor. It's a pretty horrific procedure done early enough that the fetus is not viable, but late enough the fetus looks remotely human. It's just a power grab by the government, taking power away from the doctor to decide a course of treatment with his or her patient.

Yes, it's disgusting. I also think it's temporary. Even the lunatics on the supreme court don't want a bunch of old fart lawyers trying to practice medicine.

NOPE

We are talking "partial birth abortion". A partial birth abortion, by it's very definiton, ONLY happens in the third trimester. Third trimester abortions are only legal when the health of the mother is at risk. See: Roe v Wade.

Go to a medical journal and look it up. The name "partial birth abortion" is not related in any way to the timing of the procedure. It refers to the fact that the fetus is pulled into the vaginal cavity prior to the abortion. Unfortunately people are intellectually lazy and they assume that it refers to "late term" abortions.
The type of procedure outlawed may or may not be preferable to terminate pregnancies in later terms. It may also be prefereable for certain abortions in the first or second trimester. This puts women at risk by limiting options in complicated pregrnancies. That's the intent. We're on our way to the dark ages. I hate it when pro-choice people serve as partners in crime by not finding out about this stuff before trying to discuss it.

what a weak shot. Come on now...the RNC certainly gave you better ammo then that.

Interesting how concerned Bush is with life before birth but he doesn't give a damn about young adults who die because of his insane decision to go to war.....the strutting little hypocrite!

Clark to all things the Bushie is screwing up day by day :bounce:

It certainly makes me feel a little better on those deeply cynical and pessimistic days to see this happen.

rather than PBA. Now that's someone who knows the value of wording!

over this one.

profession. No kidding! I know one personally.

I believe Nebraska already has an injunction on the bill and the U.S. appeals court is looking into a more sweeping injunction. Let's hope the courts uphold the prior law.

One very interesting thing - ABC news said the bill impacted pregnancies which were beyond 12 weeks. I thought it was post-5 months. What is the real deal here?

it could well be applied to *many* abortions, not just one specific procedure. Try reading this...

"When Opponents of Legalized Abortion Dream"

(don't know if I setup link correctly...)

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

Every day I become more solid in my support!

I find it kind of suspect that Bush has a major foreign policy speech announced last minute when Clark's foreign policy speech is tomorrow as well...

Cuz I know the Bushisms will make him look like an ASS.

Shrub

Our Stratigification of Policy is circumspect on the events of 9/11. With clarity I see parlimentarianizm on the part of Iraq. When we contribulate to the rest of the world we are sayin "We're gonna get you dead or alive."

In other words call yourself a patriot.

Let's put it this way......Bush will be outmatched in 2004 if Democrats come to their senses and pit Clark up against Mr. Lightweight (Bush).
"IT'S YOUR ECONOMY AND YOUR WAR, STUPID!"
A REAL MILITARY HERO TELLS A GENUINE INTELLIGENCE FAILURE

that photo contrast IS HILARIOUS

Can you imagine both Military records during the debate?

from clark

At Clarkes in Boston.

Clark relayed the story of visiting two soldiers at Walter Reed who lost legs in Iraq war. Clark is friends with their fathers.

Clark said one soldier said they didn't have the proper equipment to defend themselves. You say war path -- well if you could have heard the steel in Clark's voice and seen his face and hand expressions when he told this story - the room of 100+ was still. He is so protective of the men and women of the armed forces -- not as military fighters - but as people, human beings.

Or a digital camera recording him? This would be great on our grassroots website...

Thanks!

HOW ABOUT THIS

ELECT A WAR HERO
NOT A WAR ZERO

ON A WAVING FLAG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This American Woman thanks you

this guy more all the time. Great response.

a temporary measure has already been taken by a judge today which protects 4 doctors that work around the country, as well as any associates of theirs (anyone who consults with them) for an indefinite period, so the bill has no teeth as of today.

the other candidates as the one to be beaten. Good for Clark!

Notice that last night Clark did not go after other candidates on the air?

Notice when Clark had an issue with Dean he went to Dean during commercial?

Clark says he would go talk to North Korea - if he has a problem with you, you know it - but he is respectful in terms of coming to you straight and not talking to the press/other people.

The guy has class.

The General just called for Universal Daycare.

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/webcast/

Clark gets raw in this one....Clark unplugged

http://www.nhpr.org/view_summary/3/ interview/call-in from New Hampshire NPR 11/05/03 Wes Clark Interview (a must listen!)

Nevermind that he is smart, accomplished and decent.

He has kept his promise not to jump on the other candidates.
He's a gentleman and thoughtful and kind to people who ask
questions of him in meet ups, which is wonderful considering
the fear/weirdness factor that swamps you when you meet
someone famous.
He responds NOW, not later. He's got Clinton/Carville's
rapid response down better than anyone else campaigning.

Go, Clark!

By the way, this is hilarious:

Our Stratigification of Policy is circumspect on the events of 9/11. With clarity I see parlimentarianizm on the part of Iraq. When we contribulate to the rest of the world we are sayin "We're gonna get you dead or alive."

In other words call yourself a patriot.