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sabra

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Iran: Holocaust Conference Soon in Tehran

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IRAN: HOLOCAUST CONFERENCE SOON IN TEHRAN

Tehran, 5 Jan. (AKI) - Iran has decided to rewrite and revise the history of the Holocaust. Following the repeated declarations by the Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and other senior government officials on the need to re-examine the history of the genocide of the Jews during the Second World War, the association of Islamic Journalists of Iran has been tasked with quickly putting together an international conference on the Holocaust.

"President Ahmadinejad has placed at the centre of international attention, a very important question on the truthfulness of the version that Europe and the Zionists have imposed on the world on the murder of Jews during the years of the great war, and therefore we are of the opinion that it is useful and necessary to organise an international conference on that theme, where all the historians and researchers, even those that do not believe in the official version, will be able to express themselves freely," Mehdi Afzali, spokesperson of the Association of Islamic Journalists told Adnkronos International (AKI).

"We want to offer a free and democratic platform to the historians to examine in-depth this myth, seeing that in different European countries there exist laws against democracy and freedom that to do not allow intellectuals who believe in a version distinct from that which is officially pronounced on the Holocaust," added Afzali.

"We will invite those who believe in the imposed version as well as all those who have spent years of their lives in the study of documents related to the Holocaust and have come to the conclusion that the history books in schools and universities do not correspond to the truth," said Afzali, who however refused to supply the names of the revisionist historians who have been contacted to appear in the conference in Tehran. Revisionists are those who deny that the Holocaust ever happened.

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bluestateguy

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Thu Jan-05-06 05:48 PM
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1. Will David Duke lead the American delegation?

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mom cat

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Thu Jan-05-06 07:03 PM
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2. Of course the holocaust happened, but it did not happen exclusively

to Jews. Do not get me wrong. The suffering of the Jewish people was horrendous, and so was that of homosexuals, trade unionists, the retarded etc. I think that Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is making many serious errors in how he is dealing with the current Palestinian/Israeli conflict. Instead of trying to dismiss the Holocaust, he would do better to demonstrate the danger of any group abusing its power against a minority group. The issue should never be the identity of the minority group, but the abuse of power itself.
Mr. Ahmadinejad does not seem to understand that concept anymore than George Bush understands the problems with abuse of power.

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Fri Jan-06-06 02:53 AM
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5. Ahmadinejad hates Jews, not the "abuse of power against minority groups"

Edited on Fri Jan-06-06 02:53 AM by Psephos

Every day I grow more wary of this nutbag Ahmadinejad. He's like Pat Robertson with a death wish and a suitcase nuke.

"...he would do better to demonstrate the danger of any group abusing its power against a minority group."

That is the furthest possible thing from his mind. Do you remember what his boys did to that gay Iranian teenager last year? They hanged him. In public. So much for moral equivalency.

The Iranian fundamentalists running the government are no different from any other kind. They are massively intolerant, and utterly convinced that they are doing God's will. To question that is blasphemy and should be punished, in their view.

The Iranian government under Ahmadinejad is not just conservative, it's ultraconservative. It blows my mind that anyone on a progressive board would attempt to soften perceptions of what's going on over there. We should be demonstrating! Iran in 2006 is the antithesis of a progressive state. Medieval politics and 21st Century technology...soon to include nukes. Yet when I scan the Latest Breaking News titles, I see four or six people on a thread that makes Iran look scary, and 347 on one that makes the New Orleans police look scary. Hey, I already know the NOLA cops aren't to be trusted, but I don't expect them to nuke Baltimore anytime soon.

It's like watching film of a train wreck, and not being able to stop the picture. Meanwhile, the left stands around with its hands in its pockets, whistling.

Peace.

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Behind the Aegis

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Fri Jan-06-06 04:23 AM
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6. Scary, huh?

You are right, it is like watching a train wreck. But, I will clue you in why some are so "iffy" about this, because the 'enemy' is Israel. That's right. There are so-called progressives that hate Israel. It wouldn't matter if she pulled out of the WB tonight, taking every last Jew...it would be a "plot." It would be "a way to expose the Palestinian people to a hostile, and inept government." Face it, he is as crazy as a shit-house rat, much like any uber-fundamentalist. He is tolerated because of the country he hates.

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Marie26

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Fri Jan-06-06 02:53 PM
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22. It's also because of the Bush Admin. agenda

Most people here know that the neoconservatives in Bush's gov. are looking for an excuse to invade Iran & Syria. Journalists like Sy Hersh have reported on this; and even the PNAC agenda mentions this as a goal. So it's pretty clear that Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc. are biased & looking for something to provoke a war w/Iran. It's natural, then, that we'd be suspicious of stories about how dangerous Iran's President is. Is this just another propaganda effort? Are they lying to use again, like they did about Iraq's WMDs? So people tend to question these reports, & want to give Iran the benefit of the doubt. But this isn't from the Bush Administration - the international media, UN members, and even Iranian religious leaders have all talked about how nutty he is. When he's too fanatical for the Ayatollahs, we've got a problem. He seems to be deliberately provoking Isreal w/all this anti-Holocaust talk, he's trying to get nukes, and is repressing the press & purging the government. He seems to be painting a big target on Iran to provoke a holy war. This guy is bad news - it's not a manufactured threat.

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Fri Jan-06-06 03:47 PM
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25. If this guy was hoping for a way to clear the decks for Bush

to attack Iran, he's sure doing a helluva job.

These remarks are atrocious. They're beyond despicable. I cannot believe ANYONE would continue to deny such an undeniable historical truth as the holocaust

And yet. They do.

Hatred of Jews seems to come so damned easily. Why the hell is that?

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mom cat

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Fri Jan-06-06 02:36 PM
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18. My use of diplomatic language is not designed to "soften perceptions"

but to conduct dialog of serious matters using non inflamatory language. Ahmadinejad clearly needs to learn how to do this, but so do the posters on this site.

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Marie26

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Fri Jan-06-06 02:39 PM
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21. Right

I feel that way too. Every day this guy gets more & more disturbed (and disturbing). He's delusional and fanatical and convinced he's on a mission from God. At this point, I think he may be trying to provoke a war with the US. The neocons, of course, would be happy to oblige. It's the two types of fundamentalism on a crash course with no reasonable voices to stop it.

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Cessna Invesco Palin

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Fri Jan-06-06 05:24 AM
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7. "Mr. Ahmadinejad does not seem to understand"

I disagree. I think he knows exactly what he's doing. He's trying to provoke a first-strike on his country.

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Behind the Aegis

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Fri Jan-06-06 05:33 AM
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8. But, by whom?

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Cessna Invesco Palin

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Fri Jan-06-06 06:59 AM
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9. Israel, I think.

Seems like a good way to bring about WWIII.

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sarcasmo

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Fri Jan-06-06 01:08 PM
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14. A first strike by Israel. Then the United States would join in for WWIII

Russia and China will back Iran. Japan, Israel, United States, England against the rest of the world. What a wonderful world we live in.

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Cessna Invesco Palin

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Fri Jan-06-06 01:33 PM
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16. I doubt it'll go that way.

Much easier to just sit back and let them kill each other until they can't fight any more, then come in and take the oil.

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mom cat

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Fri Jan-06-06 02:28 PM
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17. That wouls be suicide. What do you think his plan is? What

could he hope to accomplish?

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Cessna Invesco Palin

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Fri Jan-06-06 02:37 PM
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19. It wouldn't be suicide.

Israel has an outside chance of being able to do some bombing runs on various facilities in Iran - enough to damage their nuclear program pretty severely. But they can't attack them overland, and they can't support an amphibious invasion. I think his hope is that any Israeli strike against Iran would precipitate a war with Syria/Lebanon (and possibly others) and a radical shift in Egyptian politics. At least that's my take.

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mom cat

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Fri Jan-06-06 05:00 PM
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28. And then Iran would bomb Israel and the Israeli nukes would fly.

And Iran would probably bomb the Green Zone and other US bases, etc...

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Cessna Invesco Palin

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Sat Jan-07-06 11:41 AM
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33. I'm not so sure about that.

I question Iran's ability to attack Israel effectively, at least right now.

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Marie26

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Fri Jan-06-06 02:59 PM
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23. Suicide

That's his plan. Just like the 9/11 hijackers. A war would finally pit the Islamic countries directly against the West and lead to a religious jihad for the glory of Islam.

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mom cat

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Fri Jan-06-06 05:05 PM
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29. He is obviously waving a red flag at a wounded charging bull.

I just hope that cooled heads can dismiss his inflammatory rhetoric.

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megatherium

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Fri Jan-06-06 02:39 PM
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20. Some anti-gay writers have claimed that gays weren't really a target

of the Holocaust; that the numbers of gays in the camps were very small, that most gays were treated as ordinary criminals. This is of course a lie, but one that parallels the larger lie of Holocaust revisionists who claim that the number of Jews deliberately murdered was inflated.

The problem is not that Mr. Ahmadinejad "doesn't understand" the danger of a group abusing its power against a minority group. He understands this all too well: Iran is a repressive society. He has recently re-installed a ban on western music (everyone listens to it but this provides a tool for controlling common citizens). They are repressive to their Bahai minority, and homosexuality is regularly punished by death in Iran.

The US government is threatening war, but Iran is cooperating nicely in that project; both by indulging in threatening actions such as this anti-Semitic conference, and by flagrant non-cooperation with the Europeans on the nuclear talks.

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Clutch Cargo

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Thu Jan-05-06 07:11 PM
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3. I wonder if they'll invite some survivors to attend? n/t

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krkaufman

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Fri Jan-06-06 01:43 AM
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4. "to examine in-depth this myth".... yeah, sounds real open-minded

Ignernce is global.

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fujiyama

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Fri Jan-06-06 08:33 AM
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10. This guy (Ahmaninajad) makes me sick

Edited on Fri Jan-06-06 08:34 AM by fujiyama

nt

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No Exit

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Fri Jan-06-06 09:03 AM
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11. Okay, let 'em study it. Let 'em provide an alternative view, if such

Edited on Fri Jan-06-06 09:04 AM by No Exit

is their wish.

And when that's through, it'll be time for a conference to examine the reasons why Muslims and Jews hate each other so much. That's a problem I'd like to see resolved. Because people are getting killed every day over it. If by some miracle the hatred between Muslims and Jews could be ended, many lives could be saved.

I say "Muslims" b/c it's clear that the Islamic Persians stand with the Arabs on that matter. Remember the Iranians are Persians, not Arabs.

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Fri Jan-06-06 09:15 AM
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12. Ding, ding, ding.... We have a winner!

>>> "time for a conference to examine the reasons why Muslims and Jews hate each other so much" <<<

I Second That Because It's One Conference That Is LLLLLLLLoooooooonnnnnng

Over

Due

(This Planet Will Not Sustain That Course Of Self-Mutilation For Very Long)

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No Exit

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Fri Jan-06-06 09:36 AM
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13. Thank you!! I'm sick of feuds that go global!!!

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Fri Jan-06-06 01:25 PM
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15. this guy is really too much

he seems determined to provoke everyone. and i thought the north koreans had the lock on over the top propaganda. this guy's gonna overtake 'em easy at this rate.

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Fri Jan-06-06 03:16 PM
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24. Who does he remind me of?

Let's see... He says and does reckless things that endanger other peoples' lives but if the danger should ever show up in his own back yard you can bet he'll be safely locked away in his bunker nibbling on pretzels or something.

Hmmmmm...?

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K-W

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Fri Jan-06-06 03:52 PM
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26. Europe should stop legislating against experession.

It doesnt supress racism and it gives these idealogues a shred of truth to base thier argument on.

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brentspeak

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Fri Jan-06-06 03:55 PM
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27. This Ahmadinejad guy apparently wants WWIII to commence w/out delay

Everything he says and does is calculated to garner as much international outrage as possible.

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kineneb

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Fri Jan-06-06 10:20 PM
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30. Khomani kept anti-Jewish tracts in Iranian bookstores

He apparently was fond of such forgeries as "The Protocols of Zion" and other such nonsense. No wonder that the younger generations are completely brain-washed on this topic.

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gordianot

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Fri Jan-06-06 10:36 PM
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31. Too bad Iran has an equivalent buffoon equaling George Bush.

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NJ Democrats

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Fri Jan-06-06 10:37 PM
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32. Not this idoit again!

Everytime he speaks he gives anti-Israel, ant-Jewish remarks. I'm sick of it. This guy is a fucking looser. I think he is trying to get someone to attack him, so he show off his "bomb".

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