Another Mass Grave Found in Northern Iraq

In the latest in a series of grisly discoveries, the U.S. military said Thursday it found another mass grave - this one in northern Iraq and thought to contain the bodies of up to 400 Kurdish women and children slain by Saddam Hussein's regime.

Soldiers of the 101st Airborne Division found the grave on the side of a dry riverbed in Hatra, 200 miles north of Baghdad. An assessment team was sent to the site.

Some 25 sets of remains - all women and children - have been pulled from the grave, each with a bullet hole in the skull. The military said the size of the area leads them to believe the site contains between 200 and 400 bodies.

Since the end of the Iraq war, at least 60 mass graves, some with hundreds of corpses, have been discovered. The United Nations is investigating the killing or disappearance of at least 300,000 Iraqis believed murdered during Saddam's regime.

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Oh, wait, that place doesn't matter...no oil there...so who cares?

Pretty low fanfare, but something like this would be doable by the gang.

I rhink that wouldn't work. They have to come up with something better.

Bill Clinton and Tony Blair went to war over mass graves in Kosovo. That war was sold on the basis of the genocide of the muslem minority.

Interestingly , that allegation was oversold then the same as WMDs were oversold now. Speeches by Blair , Clinton, and Albright notwithstanding, we now know the alleged genocide of 100,000 Albanians didn't actually occur. Still Milosevic was deposed and everybody thought that was a good idea so the lies were overlooked.

With the ends justifying the means, nobody cared the war was fought based on a lie, in violation of the War Powers Act, and without UN approval or US congressional authorization. Accordingly, I wouldn't lightly underestimate the power on the public of mass graves of executed children. This time they have actual graves to work with.

How can this be proven?

Iran, Turkey, Iraq, ......they all could have done it.


Oh thats right, we didnt go to war because Iraq was an imminent threat, or because they had WMDs.....it was because of "mass graves".

Latest Sneering Dick talking point, look for lots of old cemetaries to be dug up......:eyes:

...and ya don't have to go to war to "dig 'em up"...

However, I do think you need to put these mass graves into perspective.

Most of them date from the uprising by Shi'ites in the south, plus a less publicised uprising by the Kurds in the north. Daddy Bush promised them support, and Daddy Bush failed to keep his promise, probably because he feared an Iran-style theocracy in place of Hussein.

Yes, they executed men, women and children indiscriminately in order to bully the rest into submission. However, had Daddy Bush not encouraged them to revolt and promised his support and then left them twisting in the wind, those people might all be alive and well.

This is how the US reaction to the 1991 uprisings has been described. US forces actively prevented Shiites and Kurds from reaching weapons caches; US forces did everything to prevent their success, short of attacking the rebels. IIRC, 14 of Iraq's 18 districts were in full revolt and may well have succeeded in overthrowing Saddam and the Ba'athists. Apparently, this outcome ran counter to US policy.

Didn't American forces plow under tons of Iraqis?

This tactic was compared to a large WWII operation to sap enemy trenches, planting explosives along miles of front. All the explosives were set off at once, causing trenches to collapse and burying perhaps thousands of soldiers alive.

maybe someone has a good link, we bombed at close range, retreating Iraqis leaving Kuwait, then bulldozed the charred bodies into "mass graves"

IIRC 150,000 ?

500,000 by 1996? Have I got that number right?

But, lets not talk about that because they're probably not buried all together.

:puke: Such hypocrites.

Anybody ever ask the question?

The faithful will just THINK that it happened lately and will continue to feel justified in their support of Bush.

the going is getting rough for Bushie and he needs your support

that was when the US government supported the mass killings.

How about in Indonesia, Congo or SE Asia? ... Oh darn. That was us again. I keep forgetting it doesn't count when we do it.

Of course, the Iraq graves themselves were also done by us, indirectly, so theoretically that shouldn't count either.

that was when the US government supported the mass killings.

How about in Indonesia, Congo or SE Asia? ... Oh darn. That was us again. I keep forgetting it doesn't count when we do it.

Of course, the Iraq graves themselves were also done by us, indirectly, so theoretically that shouldn't count either.