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occuserpens Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 10:37 PM
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US troops seize award-winning Iraqi journalist
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 10:44 PM
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1. It's hard avoiding the obvious in this story!
From the article:
The director of the film, Callum Macrae, said yesterday: "The timing and nature of this raid is extremely disturbing. It is only a few days since we first approached the US authorities and told them Ali was doing this investigation, and asked them then to grant him an interview about our findings.

"We need a convincing assurance from the American authorities that this terrifying experience was not harassment and a crude attempt to discourage Ali's investigation."
(snip)
I would hope the journalist and others in his position would always have copies of work involving Americans serving Bush so when they are arrested, should they not be "accidently" killed, the stories can get out later.

This is very, very ugly. It also fits the pattern.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 11:14 PM
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4. ALMOST fits the pattern Judi Lynn - but not quite . . .
.
.
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He's still alive,

unlike many other journalists who dared try to expose the truth in Iraq . .

I see the American troops are consistent with their considerate handling of the people they are supposedly "liberating"

From the posted article:

"Dr Fadhil was asleep with his wife, their three-year-old daughter, Sarah, and seven-month-old son, Adam, when the troops forced their way in.

"They fired into the bedroom where we were sleeping, then three soldiers came in. They rolled me on to the floor and tied my hands. When I tried to ask them what they were looking for they just told me to shut up," he said.
__________________________________________________________________

Shooting up people's bedrooms? with children inside?

Is the the American way?

It appears so . . .

(sigh)

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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 11:20 PM
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6. Yeah, it was the Chilean way...
It's been "imported" by the Republican Criminal Culture of Corruption in Iraq.
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Spoonerian Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 09:20 PM
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25. I'm inclined to agree more with Concerned Canuck
Its the United States of American way. Its been exported to Chile, around the world, and now to Iraq.

This re-collection by iraqwar.ru poster Iranian-Shi'ite seemed to explain a lot when I read it yesterday. I don't agree with the concept of collective guilt that might be implied by his comments, but sometimes the viewpoint of a civilized outsider is necessary:


<snip>
I remember once in a high school class in the USA, some of the boys were boasting and bragging about how during the weekend they inserted a fire-cracker into the anus of a cat and ignited it. They said the cat ran around a left a trail of blood as it finally ran up a pole. The other US boys in the class laughed upon hearing this.

What I've read about US history matches what I've seen in them personally. Whether it is the history of Colnol Chivington massacaring the Cheyenne and Arapaho Indians who had surrendered at Sand Creek, or it is Truman massacaring the Japanese in Hiroshima and Nagasaki even though Japan had been attempting to surrender at that time.

If anyone feels sorry for these killed Usans, let me tell you the truth. I've known them personally, and I've studied their history in detail. Their historical behavior matches what you meet in their personalities.

When the US Vincennes shot down an Iranian airbus in 1988 killing about 200 passangers, the response I heard from Usans was, "well that was good target practice for our boys," or somethings like that.
<snip>


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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 10:37 PM
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27. Bushco & the REPUKES are NOT like NAZI's!
Stop adding to the THOUSANDS of examples!

Why do you hate amerikkka?
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princehal Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 11:10 PM
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2. Welcome
to our future.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 11:13 PM
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3. "Freedom is on the march"
"They fired into the bedroom where we were sleeping, then three soldiers came in. They rolled me on to the floor and tied my hands. When I tried to ask them what they were looking for they just told me to shut up," he said.

Democracy is so...
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 02:41 PM
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18. Here comes a SHOWER OF FLOWER PETALS
And the Cheers from Braying Crowds
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 11:19 PM
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5. Sounds like the old USSR n/t
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TheGunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 11:39 PM
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7. * is using our troops like mafia thugs to cover his miserable ass.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 11:46 PM
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8. Well what is he thinking
attempting to print the truth is verboten.
:argh:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 12:16 AM
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9. A glimpse into our own future...
Dr Fadhil is working with Guardian Films on an investigation for Channel 4's Dispatches programme into claims that tens of millions of dollars worth of Iraqi funds held by the Americans and British have been misused or misappropriated.

Now that Bush has declared himself dictator, and has dared the Congress to stop him, what's to prevent him from sending troops into our homes to take care of malcontents.

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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 10:20 AM
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12. Dimson issued Executive Orders confiscating all of Iraq's $$$
http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo/eo-13290.htm

Executive Order 13290 of March 20, 2003
Confiscating and Vesting Certain Iraqi Property

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.) (IEEPA), the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code, and in order to take additional steps with respect to the national emergency declared in Executive Order 12722 of August 2, 1990,

I, GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America, hereby determine that the United States and Iraq are engaged in armed hostilities, that it is in the interest of the United States to confiscate certain property of the Government of Iraq and its agencies, instrumentalities, or controlled entities, and that all right, title, and interest in any property so confiscated should vest in the Department of the Treasury. I intend that such vested property should be used to assist the Iraqi people and to assist in the reconstruction of Iraq, and determine that such use would be in the interest of and for the benefit of the United States.

I hereby order:

Section 1. All blocked funds held in the United States in accounts in the name of the Government of Iraq, the Central Bank of Iraq, Rafidain Bank, Rasheed Bank, or the State Organization for Marketing Oil are hereby confiscated and vested in the Department of the Treasury, except for the following:

(a) any such funds that are subject to the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations or the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations, or that enjoy equivalent privileges and immunities under the laws of the United States, and are or have been used for diplomatic or consular purposes, and

(b) any such amounts that as of the date of this order are subject to post-judgment writs of execution or attachment in aid of execution of judgments pursuant to section 201 of the Terrorism Risk Insurance Act of 2002 (Public Law 107 297), provided that, upon satisfaction of the judgments on which such writs are based, any remainder of such excepted amounts shall, by virtue of this order and without further action, be confiscated and vested.

Sec. 2. The Secretary of the Treasury is authorized to perform, without further approval, ratification, or other action of the President, all functions of the President set forth in section 203(a)(1)(C) of IEEPA with respect to any and all property of the Government of Iraq, including its agencies, instrumentalities, or controlled entities, and to take additional steps, including the promulgation of rules and regulations as may be necessary, to carry out the purposes of this order. The Secretary of the Treasury may redelegate such functions in accordance with applicable law. The Secretary of the Treasury shall consult the Attorney General as appropriate in the implementation of this order.

Sec. 3. This order shall be transmitted to the Congress and published in the Federal Register.

George W. Bush

THE WHITE HOUSE,

March 20, 2003.


and

http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/14mar20010800/edocket.access.gpo.gov/2003/pdf/03-13412.pdf

Title 3—
The President
Executive Order 13303 of May 22, 2003
Protecting the Development Fund for Iraq and Certain Other
Property in Which Iraq Has an Interest
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the
laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency
Economic Powers Act, as amended (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.) (IEEPA), the
National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.), section 5 of the United
Nations Participation Act, as amended (22 U.S.C. 287c) (UNPA), and section
301 of title 3, United States Code,

I, GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America, find that
the threat of attachment or other judicial process against the Development
Fund for Iraq, Iraqi petroleum and petroleum products, and interests therein,
and proceeds, obligations, or any financial instruments of any nature whatsoever
arising from or related to the sale or marketing thereof, and interests
therein, obstructs the orderly reconstruction of Iraq, the restoration and
maintenance of peace and security in the country, and the development
of political, administrative, and economic institutions in Iraq. This situation
constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security
and foreign policy of the United States and I hereby declare a national
emergency to deal with that threat.

I hereby order:
Section 1. Unless licensed or otherwise authorized pursuant to this order,
any attachment, judgment, decree, lien, execution, garnishment, or other
judicial process is prohibited, and shall be deemed null and void, with
respect to the following:
(a) the Development Fund for Iraq, and
(b) all Iraqi petroleum and petroleum products, and interests therein,
and proceeds, obligations, or any financial instruments of any nature whatsoever
arising from or related to the sale or marketing thereof, and interests
therein, in which any foreign country or a national thereof has any interest,
that are in the United States, that hereafter come within the United States,
or that are or hereafter come within the possession or control of United
States persons.
Sec. 2. (a) As of the effective date of this order, Executive Order 12722
of August 2, 1990, Executive Order 12724 of August 9, 1990, and Executive
Order 13290 of March 20, 2003, shall not apply to the property and interests
in property described in section 1 of this order.
(b) Nothing in this order is intended to affect the continued effectiveness
of any rules, regulations, orders, licenses or other forms of administrative
action issued, taken, or continued in effect heretofore or hereafter under
Executive Orders 12722, 12724, or 13290, or under the authority of IEEPA
or the UNPA, except as hereafter terminated, modified, or suspended by
the issuing Federal agency and except as provided in section 2(a) of this
order.
Sec. 3. For the purposes of this order:
(a) The term ‘‘person’’ means an individual or entity;
(b) The term ‘‘entity’’ means a partnership, association, trust, joint venture,
corporation, group, subgroup, or other organization;
(c) The term ‘‘United States person’’ means any United States citizen,
permanent resident alien, entity organized under the laws of the United
States or any jurisdiction within the United States (including foreign
branches), or any person in the United States;
(d) The term ‘‘Iraqi petroleum and petroleum products’’ means any petroleum,
petroleum products, or natural gas originating in Iraq, including any
Iraqi-origin oil inventories, wherever located; and
(e) The term ‘‘Development Fund for Iraq’’ means the fund established
on or about May 22, 2003, on the books of the Central Bank of Iraq,
by the Administrator of the Coalition Provisional Authority responsible for
the temporary governance of Iraq and all accounts held for the fund or
for the Central Bank of Iraq in the name of the fund.
Sec. 4. (a) The Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary
of State and the Secretary of Defense, is hereby authorized to take such
actions, including the promulgation of rules and regulations, and to employ
all powers granted to the President by IEEPA and the UNPA as may be
necessary to carry out the purposes of this order. The Secretary of the
Treasury may redelegate any of these functions to other officers and agencies
of the United States Government. All agencies of the United States Government
are hereby directed to take all appropriate measures within their statutory
authority to carry out the provisions of this order.
(b) Nothing contained in this order shall relieve a person from any requirement
to obtain a license or other authorization in compliance with applicable
laws and regulations.
Sec. 5. This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right, benefit,
or privilege, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by
a party against the United States, its departments, agencies, entities, officers,
employees, or agents, or any other person.
Sec. 6. This order shall be transmitted to the Congress and published in
the Federal Register.
W
THE WHITE HOUSE,
May 22, 2003.
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Tuesday_Morning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 12:18 PM
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14. So they blasted their way into his home...
... and fired shots into his bedroom where he slept with his wife and children.


Dr Fadhil is working with Guardian Films on an investigation for Channel 4's Dispatches programme into claims that tens of millions of dollars worth of Iraqi funds held by the Americans and British have been misused or misappropriated.

The troops told Dr Fadhil that they were looking for an Iraqi insurgent and seized video tapes he had shot for the programme. These have not yet been returned.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 06:48 PM
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22. "What's to prevent him...?" Absolutely nothing. n/t
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wookie294 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 12:35 AM
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10. US troops kidnap Iraqi journalist n/t
Edited on Mon Jan-09-06 12:35 AM by wookie294
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 10:11 AM
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11. recommended
so more can see this.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 06:29 PM
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20. seconded
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 11:40 AM
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13. now we're kidnapping journalists?
:shrug:
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Tuesday_Morning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 12:33 PM
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15. from Feb 2005
Foreign Press Foundation
PENTAGON THREATENED EARLIER TO KILL REPORTERS IN IRAQ
Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:17


FPF - Feb. 19th 2005 - ''Recently at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, Eason Jordan, a CNN executive, told a panel that the U.S. military deliberately targeted journalists in Iraq.He said he "knew of about 12 journalists who had not only been killed by American troops, but had been targeted as a matter of policy," said Rep. Barney Frank (Dem) from Massachusetts who was on the panel with Jordan.

"When we hear this statement with the knowledge that 63 journalists have been killed in Iraq, in addition to the fact that in a 14-month-period, more journalists were killed in Iraq than during the entire Vietnam War, one begins to get the feeling that the military clampdown on the media is more than a myth or a conspiracy theory'', Baghdad correspondent Dahr Jamail wrote.

Some time ago the BBC's Kate Adie* openly said the Pentagon c.s. was out to kill 'un american' journalists, and gave an interview concerning those 'friendly fire' killings of her colleagues. The BBC's chief news correspondent became one of the best-known faces on television for her reporting from the major wars of recent years. They include the Gulf War, the conflicts in the former Yugoslavia, Albania, Rwanda, China and Sierra Leone." When Kate Adie correctly criticized Blair's BBC, concerning the spreading of war propaganda, she was fired.



more...

http://www.apfn.net/Messageboard/02-19-05/discussion.cgi.28.html
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 01:41 PM
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16. But we have to support the troops. Right?
They're heroes.

Hmmm. On second thought, other words come to mind: punks, thugs.
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 02:39 PM
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17. Support our kidnappers of award-winning journalists!
Colonel: Marine, what is that button on your body armour?
Joker: A peace symbol, sir.
Colonel: Where'd you get it?
Joker: I don't remember, sir.
Colonel: What is that you've got written on your helmet?
Joker: "Born to Kill", sir.
Colonel: You write "Born to Kill" on you helmet, and you wear a peace button. What's that supposed to be, some kind of sick joke?
Joker: No, sir.
Colonel: Well what is it supposed to mean?
Joker: I don't know, sir.
Colonel: You don't know very much do you?
Joker: No, sir.
Colonel: You better get your head and your ass wired together or I will take a giant shit on you.
Joker: Yes, sir.
Colonel: Now answer my question, or you'll be standing tall before The Man.
Joker: I think I was trying to suggest something about the duality of man sir.
Colonel: The what?
Joker: The duality of man, the Jungian thing, sir.
Colonel: Who's side are you on, son?
Joker: Our side, sir.
Colonel: Don't you love your country?
Joker: Yes, sir.
Colonel: Well how about getting with the program? Why don't you jump on the team and c'mon in for the big win?
Joker: Yes, sir.
Colonel: Son, all I've ever asked of my Marines is for them to obey my orders as they would the word of God. We are here to help the Vietnamese because inside every gook, there is an American trying to get out. It's a hardball world, son. We've got to try to keep our heads until this peace craze blows over.
Joker: Aye aye, sir.

-- Hasford, Kubrick and Herr, "Full Metal Jacket"
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 07:14 PM
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23. And Gestapo...
And SS.
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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 06:24 PM
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19. That will be happening in our country soon;
Where will it end? I half expect that the local police have my name and are watching me. You've heard the term paranoia? Well perfect paranoia is another term for perfect awareness!
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 06:45 PM
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21. BushCo's Imperial Militia Marches On
Democratic Senators need to creatively weave current stories like this into their questioning of Alito.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 08:03 PM
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24. Kick
revealing
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 10:07 PM
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26. Sorry, but I misplaced my scorecard
Edited on Mon Jan-09-06 10:08 PM by rocknation
Isn't the U.K. on OUR side? And if they were looking for an insurgent who might have been in the video the reporter had shot, why didn't they just ASK for it?

:crazy:
rocknation
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