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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:00 AM Original message |
Top Iranian commander dies in plane crash: agencies |
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DRoseDARs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:02 AM Response to Original message |
1. This will be claimed to be a preemptive strike on Iran... |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:03 AM Response to Original message |
2. That Is Interesting Indeed, Sir |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 08:19 AM Response to Reply #2 |
42. Yes. A rather thorough job, it would appear. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 12:54 PM Response to Reply #42 |
56. That Last Is An Interesting Thought, My Friend |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:30 PM Response to Reply #56 |
67. Paranoid cynicism has its uses. |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:30 PM Response to Reply #67 |
77. Less Sabre rattling or more |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:34 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. What a very poor analysis. |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:44 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. another mischaracterization |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:34 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Precisely. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:36 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. It is always a bad idea to call other posters out individually, BTW. nt |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:42 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Noted |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:05 PM Response to Reply #42 |
72. Iranian Aircraft Maintenance |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:22 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Yes, that's what I was thinking of. nt |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:19 PM Response to Reply #42 |
73. Iran sanctions' risk to air safety is cited in report |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:05 AM Response to Original message |
3. Well that's not suspicious at all. |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:18 AM Response to Reply #3 |
55. Mere coincidence. |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:09 AM Response to Original message |
4. I just don't get it. |
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punpirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:14 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Because, simply... |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:22 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. That still makes no sense. |
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punpirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:30 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Context counts... |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:34 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. What article are you reading?! |
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punpirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:37 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Context counts... |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:45 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Still...makes no sense. |
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punpirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:55 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Uh, huh... |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:09 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Again..still no point... |
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punpirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:14 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Nah, I'm pragmatic... |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:35 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. No...I am guessing ire. |
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punpirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:54 AM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Ah, hah... |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:12 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Ah, hah...indeed... |
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punpirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:34 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Umm... |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:59 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Oooops! |
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punpirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:03 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Nice try... |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:06 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. I guess not... |
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Hardrada (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:58 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Just think of the stuff we DON'T suspect Shrub of doing |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:11 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. But... |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:40 AM Response to Reply #17 |
24. It Does Seem To Me, Sir |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:44 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Perhaps, sir. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:12 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. If More Detailed Reports Emerge, Sir |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:18 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. I agree. |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:22 AM Response to Reply #11 |
19. You're right- All this talk of possilbe U.S. military involvement is crazy |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:37 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. . |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:18 AM Response to Reply #23 |
40. Seymour Hersh, the guy that broke the Abu Ghraib prison scandal,.... |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:24 PM Response to Reply #40 |
64. And this proves? Nothing. |
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Theres-a (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 09:47 AM Response to Reply #23 |
47. Weather machine! |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:34 PM Response to Reply #47 |
68. Bad weather. |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 08:55 AM Response to Reply #11 |
91. Don't you think it is suspicious that so many accident happen |
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gulfcoastliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 09:52 AM Response to Reply #10 |
48. Airframe Riveting versus Welding |
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punpirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:19 PM Response to Reply #48 |
57. I would note that the aircraft is not mentioned... |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:03 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Chill out |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:10 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Not my knickers in a bunch. |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:21 AM Response to Reply #16 |
41. You do seem to be in a toal state of denial. Why is that, exactly? |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:23 PM Response to Reply #41 |
63. No. That would be a very poor analysis. |
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Minstrel Boy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:28 AM Response to Reply #6 |
20. Of course. But are you really saying |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:47 AM Response to Reply #20 |
26. What? |
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Minstrel Boy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 09:59 AM Response to Reply #26 |
49. No. I'm talking about |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:36 PM Response to Reply #49 |
69. And... |
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NIGHT TRIPPER (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:04 AM Response to Reply #26 |
51. if you don't find this suspicious you are not paying attention at all |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:37 PM Response to Reply #51 |
70. No rant... |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 07:01 AM Response to Reply #4 |
39. Have you been paying attention? Do you need to have someone.... |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:29 PM Response to Reply #39 |
66. Draw your own pictures. |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:22 PM Response to Reply #4 |
75. Searching the entire thread for "must" |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:28 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. You should read the thread again. |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:28 AM Response to Original message |
7. Remember what President Barlett did to the Prince of Qumar |
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montana_hazeleyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:29 AM Response to Original message |
21. The way I look at these things, |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:48 AM Response to Original message |
27. MORE: Ahmad Kazemi responsible for the P&D of Shahab missiles! |
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TheBaldyMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:58 PM Response to Reply #27 |
87. Depends on whether he was friendly with new President or Old regime |
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Algorem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:08 AM Response to Original message |
29. "softening-up operations" |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 08:38 AM Response to Reply #29 |
43. Just another one of those coincidences |
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Algorem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 09:23 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. BBC-Because of US sanctions, Iran cannot buy spare parts for aging fleet |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:39 AM Response to Reply #45 |
52. Sanctions & bad weather are the most likely explanation |
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M155Y_A1CH (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:57 AM Response to Reply #45 |
53. Interesting take |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 11:00 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. What else are they going to do? |
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CabalPowered (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:20 PM Response to Reply #45 |
85. From that article... Failure in BOTH engines? |
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pinniped (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:09 AM Response to Original message |
37. I hereby demand the US demand a UN investigation. |
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greenleaf (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 06:50 AM Response to Original message |
38. Hmm deja vu? |
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greenleaf (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 08:42 AM Response to Reply #38 |
44. Here it is |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 09:36 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Yep...that was definitely a high-value target. |
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RebelOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
50. Al-Jazeera reports that the plane |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:26 PM Response to Reply #50 |
59. Reminds one of Senator Wellstone |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:29 PM Response to Reply #50 |
60. The perfect setup! |
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HuffleClaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
58. nothing to see here folks, move along, move along |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
61. Wow, it's conspiracy fever today. |
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Minstrel Boy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:09 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. suspicion is not unwarranted here |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:08 PM Response to Reply #62 |
84. I'm not ruling anything out. |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:28 PM Response to Reply #62 |
86. Suspicion isn't unwarranted, but since we have no facts, |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 03:04 PM Response to Reply #61 |
71. I think the default is to believe its a conspiracy, |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-10-06 08:58 AM Response to Reply #61 |
92. no evidence without investigation, no investigation without suspicion. |
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ksilvas (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
65. Kinda of suspicious in the same sense as, |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 04:04 PM Response to Reply #65 |
83. I thought Al Qaeda killed him. |
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ksilvas (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:15 PM Response to Reply #83 |
88. Well, that's the story |
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greiner3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
89. I can see the CIA doing this; |
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oblivious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-09-06 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
90. Stratfor: Iran's VIP Plane Crash: Sabotage or Accident? (VERY INFORMATIVE) |
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