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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 12:19 PM
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Texas Court Won't Dismiss DeLay Charges
Edited on Mon Jan-09-06 12:22 PM by cal04
The state's highest criminal court on Monday denied Rep. Tom DeLay's request that the money laundering charges against him be dismissed or be sent back to a lower court for an immediate trial.

The Texas Court of Criminal Appeals denied the requests with no written order two days after he announced he was stepping down as House majority leader. DeLay was forced to temporarily relinquish the post after he was indicted on money laundering and conspiracy charges in September. He denies wrongdoing. DeLay and his attorneys had been trying to rush to trial in Texas in hopes of clearing his name and allowing him to regain the position. That changed Saturday, though, when DeLay announced he would not attempt to reclaim the job.

The House is expected to hold leadership elections when lawmakers return to the Capitol the week of Jan. 31.
Prosecutors allege DeLay and two associates funneled $190,000 in corporate contributions through the Texas political committee and an arm of the Republican National Committee to seven GOP state legislative candidates.

They accuse DeLay and the associates of trying to circumvent Texas' law prohibiting spending corporate money on campaigns, except for administrative expenses.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/09/AR2006010900629.html
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 12:20 PM
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1. oh happy days------yappa dappa doo!
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mcar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 12:21 PM
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Woo hoo
Look now for DeLay and co to decry "activist judges."
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 12:21 PM
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2. No man is above the law
I think of all the poor schmucks, both guilty and innocent, who have been arrested, and how they are treated. Seems to me that no one should be given special treatment.
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daleanime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 12:21 PM
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3. And that's step 1...
the next step is working on DeLays definition of guilty.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 12:22 PM
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4. This Wretch Has Lost His Luck, Ma'am
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 12:23 PM
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5. Good news
:D
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 12:32 PM
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6. Tx Court of Criminal Appeals are
obviously part of the CONSPIRACY!!!!!



:sarcasm:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 12:48 PM
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7. Can't tell if this is good news or bad news
Either the case against DeLay is so strong that his friends are afraid to fix the case, and that's rare in Texas, or the fix is in somewhere else. We had Kay Bailey Hutchison on very solid evidence, and the judge ambushed Earle in court and let Hutchison go. I more than half expect that to happen with DeLay, although if they wanted to save him, seems like they'd have done it before he stepped down.

There is division in the Texas Republican party between the neocon branch and the traditional libertarian style Republican. Texas conservatives used to never be fundamentalist, they were more libertarian. They really didn't hate people, they just want government to back off. They could often allie with the Texas Dems on many Bill of Rights style issues. But since the mid 90s there's been a push by the fundie neocons to take over the party, and not all of the Repubs like it. They prefer their neocons over the Dems, usually, but there is an internal battle with the neocons.

Maybe the traditional Repubs are finally winning over. Maybe they see their chance to defeat DeLay and not hurt the party. Let's hope. I don't agree with old school Repubs very much at all, but at least they aren't quite so mean as the neocon Nazis.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 01:13 PM
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12. The Texas Court of Criminal Appeals is all Repukes
I was anxious that they might have fixed this case for The Hamper, and I can see you shared my concern. Please note, the court denied Hot Tub Tom's appeal 2 days after it was announced that he would no longer seek restatement to his House majority leader position. DeLay is not the kind of guy who would just give up, so this must mean he went down hard due to recent legal developments, ya think? I believe there is far more to this than the recently revealed bribe from Russia.

If my assumption is correct, then the Court doesn't have enough whitewash to cover this fence. It would therefore seem logical that they would back away from whatever fix they might have had planned.

BTW, thanks for the insight concerning the division between libertarians and neocons.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 01:36 PM
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18. Yes, that's exactly why I'm not sure how to read this
I forget not everyone realizes they are all Republicans.

I believe that if they want to save DeLay, they will, no matter the evidence. I'm sure Tom knew when he made his announcement that they weren't going to throw out the case, and that's why he stepped down. But I still suspect something is in the works to keep Tom out of jail. Maybe Saturday's announcement was the start of a plea bargain.

A couple of election cycles ago, the Repubs had a big flairup over control of the state Repub Party. It was run by a neocon fundie, and just about every primary for the state legislature had a neocon against a traditional Repub. Just before the election the chairperson backed the neocons, and I think even did phone banking to endorse some of them. I don't remember how it turned out (I never care much when Repubs fight each other), but there was a bitter war over control of the party. I think the chair had to step down.

Anyway, this was the election cycle when DeLay's PAC and the TAB crossed the lines to win the Texas Legislature, and in some of the primaries DeLay used the same tactics against the traditionalists in his own party to promote his neocon stooges. So he may have made some powerful enemies in his own party then. I don't know how many on the Court of Appeals were affected by that, but Delay does have enemies in his own party.

It could get interesting.
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cosmicone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 03:39 AM
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40. I think Delay was tipped off by the court
so he made the decision to quit before the appeal was rejected.
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 02:34 PM
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19. Concerning the Repub split
Dick Armey, the former Republican House majority leader, who now works for the firm DLA Piper Rudnick Gray Cary and who clashed with Mr. DeLay in the House, invoked Charles Dickens, likening Mr. DeLay to Fagin and Mr. Buckham to the Artful Dodger in "Oliver Twist."

"Tom DeLay sent Buckham downtown to set up shop and start a branch office on K Street," Mr. Armey said. "The whole idea was, 'What's in it for us?' That's what I thought at the time, and I've seen nothing in the way they've conducted themselves since then to dissuade me from that point of view."

Mr. DeLay and a group of like-minded Republicans have spent years promoting Republicans for top lobbying positions in an attempt to counter decades in which Democrats controlled both Congress and K Street. The effort has caused several dustups over the years.



http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/08/politics/08alexander.html?pagewanted=print

"He shifted the game of politics from one of comity to one of ruling from an ironclad, 'with-us-or-against-us' philosophy," said Bob Stein, Rice University political scientist and pollster. "He felt you had to choose sides, and being neutral wasn't allowed. Over time, he just accrued too many enemies."

Although fiercely partisan, DeLay has rarely flinched from holding prominent members of his own party accountable when they violated what he believed were key tenets of conservatism.

DeLay led an effort in Congress to pass an emergency law granting a federal court review of the Schiavo case, only to see the U.S. Supreme Court refuse to intervene.

Her feeding tube was removed by court order, and Schiavo died 13 days later. DeLay, in remarks he later apologized for, essentially threatened the judges who allowed it to happen.

"The time will come for the men responsible for this to answer for their behavior," DeLay said.

Last year it was also DeLay's turn to be reminded by conservatives about party tenets of fiscal responsibility. After saying that hurricane-relief funds should be provided generously, DeLay later joined the move to cut the federal budget.


http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/printstory.mpl/nation/3572398

Then there is also Newt, who doesn't have a love for BugBoy.

Also, saw an article the other day that Bush doesn't "Heart" DeLay. I'm trying to locate the article.
Bush, "Why I don't know a Tom DeLay, a Abramoff, or a Kenny Boy."
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 03:21 PM
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24. Found article I mentioned in my previous post above
Edited on Mon Jan-09-06 03:23 PM by MagickMuffin
When legal and ethical questions began spinning around House majority leader Tom DeLay last year, President George W. Bush was publicly supportive. Privately, though, he questioned his fellow Texan's mojo. Bush had scored 10 points higher than DeLay in the Representative's district in 2004, and that was only after Bush had recorded a telephone message to help rally local Republicans. "I can't believe I had to do robocalls for him," the President said bitingly to an Oval Office visitor.

"Karl thinks of him as someone a little bit too opinionated for his own good," says an official close to both men. "And DeLay thinks of Karl as a former mail vendor, not some great guru."

The President's inner circle says, "They have always seen him as beneath them, more blue collar. He's seen as a useful servant, not someone you would want to vacation with."


Oh really then how come Bush vacations with him? If you check out the link provided you will see for yourself how much Bush dislikes DeLay. Has a pic of them sharing a golf cart.

Abramoff was one of the Bush-Cheney re-election campaign's "pioneers" ”meaning he raised at least $100,000, most of it from others, in increments of $2,000. After Abramoff pleaded guilty, Bush aides announced they had donated to the American Heart Association $6,000 that had been given to the campaign by Abramoff, his wife and one of his Indian-tribe clients. But Republican officials said they plan to keep the remaining $94,000. A Bush aide said it cannot be assumed that the other donors, who were simply recruited by Abramoff, have done anything wrong: "That's not a fair standard."


So, the pResident has made the Democrats case for them when it comes to accepting money from Abramoff clients!


Note the byline: Matt Cooper, Mike Allen (Cooper's revenge?)

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/printout/0,8816,1147153,00.html

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 08:57 AM
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42. Is your link correct?
I'm getting, "an error occurred while processing this directive"
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 12:48 PM
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8. Imagine if this was YOU facing these charges
Edited on Mon Jan-09-06 12:48 PM by Ezlivin
Could you possibly afford all of the legal firepower to try all of these tricks? I seriously doubt it.

The legal system is pretty amazing, particularly when you have a lot of money to pour into lawyers. Otherwise you're doing the perp walk and then cooling your heels while awaiting trial.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 12:52 PM
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10. Are you implying there are two Americas?
As I read last night somewhere, the justice system treats all people equally. The law forbids the rich as well as the poor from sleeping under bridges, stealing loaves of bread, and panhandling. And the poor are allowed the same rights as the rich to sieze profit sharing plans, hire high-powered attornies, and set up tax havens in the Carribean. So where's the problem?
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 12:49 PM
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9. Bye bye - jackasss Delay - Nana nah nah - hey hey Good bye! n/t
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 12:55 PM
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11. Delay thought he could get away with anything!
Even thought he could control the court...
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 04:46 PM
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28. Read my tag line...It says it all....No tyrannt ever escapes the truth!
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antiblazer Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 01:23 PM
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13. it doesn't get any better
money laundering charges in Texas, pending federal indictments.... He may not even get reelected in november! :)
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sweetm2475 Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 01:24 PM
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14. poor, poor shithead
:nopity: bye bye tom delay.:hi:
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 01:28 PM
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15. Is it possible that DeLay will rat out some other Repukes?
If DeLay thinks he is going down, will he want to bring others with him? I hope so!
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 04:45 PM
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27. Like the Chimperor!
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 12:28 AM
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37. I doubt it
Bugboy will probably go after Democrats. If he can't find something on them, he'll likely make something up.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 01:31 PM
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16. Oh, happy day! nt
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 01:35 PM
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17. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Hey DeLay, you douche, why don't you try for another change of venue and do some more judge shopping you idiot.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 02:49 PM
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20. poor little gugman--he is getting squished last days.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 02:51 PM
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21. and get this !
DeLay's attorney, Dick DeGuerin, said they will continue to push for a quick trial because DeLay faces opposition in the March Republican primary.

a 'quick trial'? who are they kidding? its THEIR shenanigans that have been drawing this out. good lord. i'm sure they will at some point claim his right to 'speedy justice' has been denied too. they have really gone overboard with these legalistic games.
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JudyM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 04:48 PM
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29. He won't likely be hoping to eviscerate any 4th Amendment protections
any time soon. Easy to vote to limit OTHER people's rights, though, ain't it, Tommy boy?
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 03:00 PM
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22. Did DeLay learn of this decision before it was announced?
Is that why he stepped down as majority leader?

Something stinks to high heaven.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 03:13 PM
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23. I bet Tom is indeed smiling from ear to ear.....NOT
Show a tooth for the boys that are rooting for ya, Tom.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 04:20 PM
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25. If Deeelaaaay wants a speedy trial he should tell his lawyer to quit
filing legal briefs challenging every aspect of the process and get on with it. Just sayin'.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 04:40 PM
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26. Yee Haa!
:kick:
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 04:51 PM
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30. REMINDER: This is a 9 to 0 REPUBLICAN COURT
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 04:59 PM
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31. Nyuck, nyuck, nyuck!
Too bad for Tommy!
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 05:22 PM
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32. Who’s smiling now?
Edited on Mon Jan-09-06 05:24 PM by sattahipdeep




Court denies DeLay's request to drop charges


By R.G. RATCLIFFE
Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle

AUSTIN -- Texas' highest criminal court today rejected U.S. Rep. Tom DeLay's
request to throw out criminal indictments against him or order an immediate
trial on a charge of money laundering

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/3574801.html

You should do the world a favor and fucking muder
your self, because you are a drain on society and the world - ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=67141&mesg_id=67141
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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 06:41 PM
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33. Say Tom!
Can you bend over touching your toes and cough at the same time? :rofl:
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 06:51 PM
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34. Yeehaw!
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 08:23 PM
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35. Best news of the day
What a start to a very good new year.

Thanks "Hot Tub Tommy", you are a gift that keeps on giving.

Sonia
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grateful581 Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 11:17 PM
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36. Good News
Come on Repukes, Support your crook!
Where is all the the "this is just a political Attack" Bull S***?
Why are you eating your own?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 12:30 AM
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38. Its only going to get worse...
Ya gotta love it...
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American liberal Donating Member (915 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 01:24 AM
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39. yay n/t
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 04:14 AM
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41. Houston Chronicle: Appeals court deals DeLay a setback
Jan. 10, 2006, 12:50AM
Appeals court deals DeLay a setback
His bid to get the criminal case resolved before primary now rests with another panel


By R.G. RATCLIFFE
Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle Austin Bureau

AUSTIN - U.S. Rep. Tom DeLay's hopes of getting his criminal case resolved before the March Republican primary now rests with the Texas 3rd Court of Appeals.

The Court of Criminal Appeals, comprised of Republicans, rejected DeLay's request Monday to either throw out the indictments against him or order an immediate trial on a money-laundering charge. The state's highest criminal court ruled against DeLay, R-Sugar Land, without comment.

Now the quick resolution of his case depends on two sets of appeals before the lower 3rd Court.

In one, the state has appealed a district judge's order throwing out charges against DeLay of conspiring to violate state election laws.
(snip/...)

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/3576445.html
(Free registration required)

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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 11:13 AM
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43. What...alll his "get out of jail free' cards gone?
Sigh...
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