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mahatmakanejeeves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 10:26 PM
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Arrest in Rosenbaum Slaying
Edited on Thu Jan-12-06 10:40 PM by mahatmakanejeeves
I saw it on the local Faux affiliate, WTTG channel 5 in DC.

Police Make Arrest in Slaying of Reporter

WASHINGTON — A suspect in the beating death of New York Times reporter David Rosenbaum turned himself in to police Thursday night after TV stations broadcast surveillance images showing his face.

Michael Hamlin, 23, of Washington, saw one of the broadcasts and went to the 7th District police station "inquiring why his face was on TV," said Metropolitan Police Detective Anthony Paci.

Hamlin arrived at the police station around 6:20 p.m. EST and confessed to the crime shortly thereafter, Paci said.


Not a whole bunch of brain power at work there, if you ask me.

Before you get all worked up, channel 5 is OK. They went to news at 10 p.m years ago, and they give a full hour of it. I've been watching it since it was a member of the Dumont network - no kidding. After that, it was Metromedia, which I believe was owned by John Kluge. Then he sold it to Faux.
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 10:46 PM
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1. I second the opinion regarding local Channel 5.
As a near DC local, I can back up that opinon re: local Channel 5. Their news isn't like Fox cable news.

Then again, what is? (I do still prefer channel 4, but maybe that's just me?)
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 10:57 PM
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2. Some questions
Edited on Thu Jan-12-06 10:58 PM by Art_from_Ark
Rosenbaum was killed at night, as I recall. Where was he, and the alleged perpetrator, in relation to the surveillance camera?

Surveillance camera images are notoriously fuzzy, even in bright light. How was this camera able to get a clear image of the suspect in, presumably, a dark environment?

If the police just took a surveillance file from their records and showed that on TV, wouldn't the suspect naturally be curious as to why his image was being shown on TV? And if he did commit the crime, why would he show up at the police station? OK, he could have been as dumb as Homer Simpson showing up at the PD to claim his "free boat", or he could have been on drugs at the time the crime was committed, but under normal circumstances I find it hard to believe that even the dumbest crook would show up in such an innocent manner at a police station after knowingly committing a major felony.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 11:51 PM
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5. The murder was not caught on camera.
The credit cards were used, and camera caught the guy using Rosenbaum's credit cards. I imagine the places were very well lit.
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:39 AM
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16. Why did Hamlin show up at the police station after he saw his video on TV?
Perhaps he hoped to collect the $25,000 reward being offered to anybody who could identify the person in the video and lead to that person's arrest. It was only logical. He went into his local precinct to identify that person, even though that person was he himself.

This whole case is quite bizarre, right down to Hamlin who walked into the 7th precinct police station and turned himself in. Hamlin just happens to live in the 2400 block of Alabama Ave, the same block as the police station!

Curiouser and curiouser.

I wonder if convicted he'll be able to collect that 25-thousand-dollar reward.
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drhilarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 11:02 PM
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3. "Hey, why's my face on the TV...
does it have anything to do with that guy I beat to death?"

Glad he had the decency to confess.
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 11:48 PM
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4. Did the camera show him beating the guy? I too find this a strange
Was his confession under duress? Many questions remain to be answered.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 11:52 PM
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6. No, he used stolen credit card.
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 04:16 PM
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22. So, does using the stolen credit card mean he is guilty of murder?
Could someone have given him the card and told him to use it? this story sounds bizzare.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 11:58 PM
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7. from the link:
Earlier, investigators released surveillance videos showing a man who may have used a credit card stolen from Rosenbaum.

Police said the credit card had been used seven times since Rosenbaum's death, to buy a total of $1,300 worth of merchandise.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:36 AM
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15. He didn't know he had beaten him to 'death'
Rosenbaum was alive for at least a few more hours. Cause of death sounds more like a botched response to his injures by the police and the hospital.


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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 12:46 AM
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8. so I guess Rove didn't hide in the dark and kill the guy
More tinfoil wasted...

onenote
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 01:06 AM
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9. Not necessarily wasted tinfoil
Edited on Fri Jan-13-06 01:06 AM by Art_from_Ark
The suspect could have found the credit card after someone else had tossed the wallet. And in today's seemingly no-holds-barred law enforcement environment, a "confession" could have been extracted in a less-than-legitimate way.

If the suspect was a garden-variety mugger, why didn't he take the victim's ring and other valuables?

Who was his accomplice (who drove the dark-colored getaway vehicle)?

And if the suspect knew he had committed such a serious felony, why would he show up at the police station?

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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 01:23 AM
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10. Even if he didn't commit "such a serious felony", why
would he show up the police station? Maybe because his stupid face was on TV, and he knew somebody will turn him in sooner or later?
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 01:31 AM
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11. He's gotta know it's a murder case -- Sounds like a credit card finder...
Edited on Fri Jan-13-06 01:34 AM by Bozita
... or buyer.

Very possible.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 01:37 AM
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12. Could be, but who knows?
It could be just a random killling by a complete and total stranger, and the suspect could very well be a total idiot who, indeed, committed the murder. However, after what has transpired over the past 5 years, and even before that, I've reached the point where I have a hard time accepting an account like this at face value.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 01:54 AM
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13. The article does not specify what crime he confessed to
He may have confessed to using a credit card that is not his. I don't trust this story, I need more substance.
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:30 AM
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14. Back story to this strange crime
Found in the B-section of yesterday's Post:

Thompson's department has come under fire because an ambulance did not arrive for more than 20 minutes and because it took nearly 50 minutes after the 911 call for Rosenbaum to reach the hospital.

Emergency medical workers also did not realize that the journalist had been badly beaten. They thought he was intoxicated, several fire department sources have said. The city's medical examiner later determined that Rosenbaum died from a severe head injury and blows to his body and limbs.

It took four firefighters -- who are also trained as emergency medical technicians -- less than five minutes to reach the scene and begin administering aid to Rosenbaum, the statement said. "At no time did he present symptoms or detectable injuries that would cause first responders to request the addition of advanced life support resources," Thompson said in the statement.

An ambulance, which was dispatched at the same time as the firetruck, arrived in 23 minutes. The unit's emergency medical technicians took Rosenbaum to Howard University Hospital. He arrived there at 10:18 p.m., 48 minutes after the units were dispatched, Thompson said. The technicians told emergency room personnel that they believed Rosenbaum was drunk, fire department sources have said. Fire officials have declined to comment on the assessments.

At the hospital, Rosenbaum was not examined for at least an hour and was left on a stretcher in a hallway, fire officials have said.


City Defends Response In Fatal NW Beating

Video of Michael Hamlin trying to use one of Rosenbaum's cards:

http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0106/293541.html
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 08:36 AM
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19. Seems like family of Mr. Rosenbaum has a good reason to sue
the hospital and others involved. Of course that is not going to bring poor guy back.
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MakeItSo Donating Member (351 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 10:04 AM
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21. I wonder what happens to a congressman who gets hurt?
They probably have their own private ambulance service in DC, along with their comprehensive all-included health insurance coverage and all the rest. Hell, they probably have their own private hospital. Only when they are visting their dachas on the countryside do they likely need to confront the US health care nightmare head-on.
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 05:41 AM
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17. No Offense...
the fact he was watching the NEWS is enough to debunk this story, his face was on there, so after committing a murder he heads down there?


This certainly adds more questions than it solves

patsy, plain and simple.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 08:24 AM
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18. Not everything is this big, giant conspiracy.
It's pretty clear to me poor Mr. Rosenbaum was a victim of mugging. The whole situation was confounded by the fact that medical personal did not take it seriously and wrongly assumed he was drunk. The idiot who beat Mr. Rosenbaum up most likely did not realize he had murdered him, thus, using his credit cards and getting caught.
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MakeItSo Donating Member (351 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 10:00 AM
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20. Suspect asked police why he was on TV?
OK.... either he is incredibly, jaw-droppingly stupid, or a patsy.
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newblewtoo Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 06:42 PM
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23. Sounds about right....
It's pretty clear to me poor Mr. Rosenbaum was a victim of mugging. The whole situation was confounded by the fact that medical personal did not take it seriously and wrongly assumed he was drunk. The idiot who beat Mr. Rosenbaum up most likely did not realize he had murdered him, thus, using his credit cards and getting caught.

But did he just use the cards? I missed exactly what he confessed to.


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