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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:05 PM
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Paul Bremer tells of horrors in Iraq, says war justified

http://www.dailyfreepress.com/media/paper87/news/2006/02/15/News/Paul-Bremer.Tells.Of.Horrors.In.Iraq.Says.War.Justified-1614173.shtml

Paul Bremer tells of horrors in Iraq, says war justified


Former Iraq administrator Paul Bremer III, who was in charge of America's efforts to reconstruct Iraq, took on the contentious topic of rebuilding Iraq, asserting Tuesday that Saddam's Hussein's regime was modeled after Adolf Hitler's and that despite the lack of evidence for weapons of mass destruction, the United States was correct to intervene because Iraqis were suffering from horrific conditions.

Bremer said the "horrors of Saddam's regime" fully struck him and his team when they found their first Iraqi mass grave.

"I saw a grave the size of three football fields, and between the bones, veiled women were looking for their relatives," Bremer said.

"Most Americans have never seen such an appalling scene ," he said. "Every police station had a torture chamber, some even had rape chambers. In there, there were human shredding machines. They started at your toes to maximize the suffering."


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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:08 PM
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1. "horrors of Saddam's regime"
... and now they have the horrors of the Bush Regime.

Same old imprisonment and torture - just under new management.
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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:12 PM
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8. The lying bastard offers this one moment of unintended levity:
"The Iraqis went from the most brutal regime of Saddam Hussein to total freedom in just three weeks."

Comic tragedy.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:51 PM
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20. He is a War Criminal
And a Stooge


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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:08 PM
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2. He be jes' recounting for y'all
what the Amis be doing there... PROJECTION IS their forte.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:11 PM
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7. The mass grave he refers to is in FALLUJAH. Guess who did the massing?
bushCabal are deeply desperate.
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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:13 PM
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10. sigh
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purduejake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:09 PM
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3. So what has changed...
Other than the method of torture? Other than our more efficient killing machine?
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:10 PM
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4. Dear Paul, you really require my collectin of links to the FACTS
IRAQIS ARE WORSE OFF NOW THAN THEY WERE UNDER SADDAM HUSSEIN.

And gee Paul, included in my list of links to the above FACTUAL statement are bushCartel agency reports.

WORSE OFF NOW.

FACT.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:10 PM
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5. And the torture pictures released today of our military...
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 04:54 PM by MadMaddie
torturing prisoners is better. So it's okay for America to torture the prisoners instead of the Iraqi regime?

<snip>
"Most Americans have never seen such an appalling scene ," he said. "Every police station had a torture chamber, some even had rape chambers. In there, there were human shredding machines. They started at your toes to maximize the suffering."
<snip>

Isn't this what has happened and is happening now in our prisons?


If that is the case there are other horrific regimes in the world, why not go after them Paul? How many mass graves are around the world? Why havent'we taken down their governments?

This man should be prosecuted by the Hague!!:wtf:
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:11 PM
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6. Bremer gets feisty
During the question and answer session that followed Bremer's address, the atmosphere tensed when one guest said the government was lying about Iraq's weapons capabilities, which drew an agitated response from Bremer.

"The fact that we did not find weapons did not mean they were not there. Don't call me a liar unless you are able to back that up," Bremer said, pointing at the attendee.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:13 PM
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9. The fact that we didn't find Martians doesn't mean they're not there.
The fact that bush's own weapons inspectors both said NO WMD NO FACILITIES to make wmd since 1991 doesn't mean the wmd & facilities weren't actually there...invisible ones. Miniature ones, so tiny ya need a microscope to see em.

DESPERATION REEKS, Paulie.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:21 PM
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13. Bremer promised a similar questioner "proof" 3 years ago
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 04:21 PM by Cocoa
http://www.avot.org/article/20030402154900.html

<snip>

Woolsey: ...The centerpiece of his violations, which virtually all reasonable people agree on, is the maintenance of substantial chemical and bacteriological weapons. That’s what the inspectors found. It’s what the inspectors found. If you believe he destroyed them the way he said he destroyed them, then, again, like Chirac and Schroeder, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I’d be glad to sell you.

QUESTION: No, we don’t know that, Mr. Woolsey.

JAMES WOOLSEY: We know it as well as one ever knows anything in international affairs.

QUESTION: I would love to see the proof. I want to see the proof.

JAMES WOOLSEY: That’s what the inspectors said. All you have to do is look at the inspector’s report of 1998.

PAUL BREMER: You’ll see the proof.

more...
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:28 PM
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14. Yeppers, still waiting. bushCabal are in SERIOUS deep shit.
The desperation reeks.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:01 PM
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27. They aren't getting ready to try and plant something again, are they?
Between this story and the line-up for tonights NightLine, I'm guessing there's going to be some HUGE find in the next couple of weeks. :shrug:
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:36 PM
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15. wow, great find!
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:22 PM
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30. No Paul, the burden is on you. Prove that they were there.
Saying that they were there without proof IS lying. Don't want to be called a liar? Don't Lie.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:36 PM
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31. um...Paulie,
since you had an erection for this war long before it was even in its planning stages, THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON YOU!!! not the person posing the question....

if i were present, my questions would have been even more direct....(bank records COUGH*COUGH)
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:14 PM
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11. Hmm. Guess he didn't visit the mass graves created by Bushco
150,000....that's not unimpressive either, Paul, Mr. Medal of Honor asshole
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:16 PM
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12. Interesting timing, considering he has had all this time to make his
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 04:30 PM by Judi Lynn
earth-shaking comments, on the day the Australian news company released some of the photos Bush was trying to hide.

http://www.alternet.org/images/managed/Blog+Image_paulbremer.jpg

Did you know he's a gourmet cook? Yummm. :eyes:
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:44 PM
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17. Who's on top
:rofl:
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:37 PM
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16. Who's that boy/girl?
Kissinger-Condoleezza-Bremer-
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:49 PM
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18. recommended
And :kick:

:spray:
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:50 PM
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19. Yeppers Paul. Blowing up all those little children was worth it to
let Bush get back for his Daddy about Saddam!!

:sarcasm:
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Betsy Ross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:00 PM
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21. I'm sorry. I apologize, but I have to say it"
F*ck Bremer.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:15 PM
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22. Goddamn dirty rotten crook. Where's the money, Paul ???
Where's that missing NINE BILLION dollars, Bremer?

http://www.politicalgateway.com/main/columns/read.html?col=259

Is that why they gave you the Medal of Freedom? For funneling all that money to Bush contributors?

This SOB belongs in jail!!
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 05:26 PM
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23. If bremer wants to see horrors, send him down to Mens Central Jail
in Los Angeles any day of the week. Otherwise fuck him.
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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 06:05 PM
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24. You know they're all getting desperate......
when they start trotting out the ole' "rape rooms" and "mass graves."

Hey, you fuckwit Bremer - we don't believe a word you say, so save your breath!
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 08:02 PM
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25. how about the genocide in Darfur? Isn't that a horrific condition?
http://www.duclarion.com/media/paper481/news/2006/02/14/News/Refugee.Educates.Audience.On.Genocide-1612495.shtml?norewrite&sourcedomain=www.duclarion.com

"Sudanese refugee and associate of the Massaleit Community in Exile and the Darfur Association, Ahmed Ali, spoke last Wednesday about the Sudanese death toll that has reached over 400,000 documented deaths tied to genocide."


How about all the horrors committed all around the world?


Oh wait...I forgot...those suckers don't have oil...sorry, you are on your own...
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 10:41 PM
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26. The only mass graves found have been the ones filled with the
Sadaam opposition soldiers we said we would support and then abandoned for slaughter. As for the torture equipment...I'm sure we are putting it to good use in our torture emporium.
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:13 PM
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28. I think it's worse now than under Saddam. It only took us 3years
compared to 30 years for Saddam.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 11:19 PM
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29. Mendacious vampire
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