Iraq seethes after new prisoner abuse footage

Look's like Saddam's Iraq had FRATS made up of nothing but pussie type girlie men.

Iraq; welcome to American style Frat hazing for the 21st century! Let's bring 'em on................to Yale and Harvard!

-85%

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Has the nerve to tell us that the war was justified because Saddam had torture chambers. Using that logic a country would be justified in attacking the US. I have lost all faith and respect for the US government.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/iraq_dc

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - New images of abuse at Abu Ghraib prison prompted Iraq's president to condemn his close ally the United States on Thursday, demanding harsh punishment for "savage crimes" as Iraqis seethed over more humiliation.

In unusually strong language, Jalal Talabani was critical of Washington as the new images were digested by Iraqis and other Arabs already enraged by insulting cartoons of the Prophet Mohammad which were published in European newspapers.

"We have condemned these savage crimes. We reject that a civilized country allow its soldiers to commit these ugly and terrible crimes," Talabani told reporters.

"We demand very harsh punishments against the perpetrators."

In Washington, Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman played down the reaction over the images, saying they were not new and that the perpetrators had already been brought to justice.

"There aren't new allegations, they're old allegations. These aren't new photos, they're old photos. These are photos that were part of the evidence in the prosecutions that took place," Whitman said.

Some of them are new. Let's just start the justice process on this all over and this time, hang the guy at the top.

Left of Cool

The administration has literally thumbed its nose at the courts about releasing the REALLY bad photos, some reputedly to have minor boys being sodomized. I guess they can't be shown anyway, since they'd violate (pardon the cheap joke) laws against child pornography, but just what is their status at this point?

Another thing: these photos weren't "released", they were leaked.

Yet another thing: victims at Abu Graib weren't necessarily "terrorists", as can flimsily be argued about those at Gitmo; many were hauled in by a dragnet, rather than having been captured in the field as many now held in Cuba were.

Now here's a BIG thing: if guilt is to be presumed, then it has to be based upon reasonable credibility of the administration. This is beyond ridiculous, since they've been wrong about virtually everything upon which they've made a pronouncement.

Lest we forget, this is an "endless" war; the war against terrorism will never end if for no other reason that there's nobody to sign a treaty or haul down an opposing flag. As such, the ongoing and ugly reiterations that such secrecy and extreme measures are "for the duration" are worse than cynical: all justifications for loss of civil rights are PERMANENT by definition, and their revue is essentially suspended FOREVER due to the "crisis" of the conflict.

See you in the trenches.

And that they where leaked by someone in the Pentagon?

These images serve no purpose other than to incite Muslims and those who published them should be ashamed of themselves. I support a free press BUT, one must practice freedom responsibly. One must be sensitive to the feelings of others and the impact these images would have.

...............Wait a minutes, is this the Abu Ghraib photos or the cartoons I'm talking about? It's so confusing trying to keep up what's OK and not OK to publish. Never mind.