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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:02 AM
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Senator Lieberman Says U.S. Should `Dissolve' Embattled FEMA

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000087&sid=a8tvcJ2gi8y4&refer=top_world_news

Senator Lieberman Says U.S. Should `Dissolve' Embattled FEMA

Feb. 19 (Bloomberg) -- Senator Joseph Lieberman, the senior Democrat on the Senate homeland security panel, said the U.S. Federal Emergency Management Agency should be abolished in light of its performance in handling Hurricane Katrina's devastation.

Lieberman, from Connecticut, said the agency, which oversees the federal response to natural disasters, should be taken apart and a different organization should be created in its place.

``It's time for FEMA as we know it to go,'' he said on ABC's ``This Week.'' ``It's time to dissolve and rebuild it within'' the Homeland Security Department.

FEMA has been at the center of criticism of the Bush administration's response to the storm, which struck the Gulf Coast on Aug. 29, forcing the evacuation of New Orleans.


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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:03 AM
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1. lets put fema back the way it was..get rid of chertoff..and homeland sec
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:05 AM
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4. And while we're at it, let's lose Libermann! nt
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 09:30 AM
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35. I second that motion. Libermann is not even a Dem Lite.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:13 AM
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7. and LIeberman... I have had quite enough
two-faced lying Bush sycophant...
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:04 AM
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2. ...
:boring:
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:05 AM
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3. I STILL can't fucking believe Gore picked this little fucker to be VP
Holy shit, this turd continues to amaze
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:19 AM
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9. It had to be a set-up...
Edited on Sun Feb-19-06 11:20 AM by slor
I really wish Gore had exercised more control over his campaign. Between joementum for VP, the distancing from Clinton, and the Florida vote recount in only Dem counties, giving the appearance of trying to skew the outcome. Now in fairness, I will admit that I know that only the recount part was definitely against his wishes; He wanted a statewide recount. But I cannot help to believe that there were behind the scene machinations designed to keep him out of the WH, by his own team. Of course, I should also point out the blatant election theft, and the decision to stop fighting.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:43 AM
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13. I've come to believe it was a "set up," too. Holy Joe did everything for
the Repugs during the recount by allowing late mailed miltary absentee ballots to be counted...and who knows what else he was doing for Bush at that time. Most of us were too trusting to see him for what he was, at that time, but Lieberman has sure snapped to their whip every since.

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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 12:26 PM
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20. On the Other Hand, Getting Lieberman Out of the Senate
Was probably a good idea....(Peter Principle--kick the incompetent upstairs out of the way of business)
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 02:13 PM
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27. Not to mention the always ineffective Donna Brazille
I think I could have done a better job of running his campaign!
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 01:52 AM
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32. That's the only sense I can make of it aside from temporary insanity.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:48 AM
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14. He was vying for a page in the history books and going
for the "devout" vote..knowing that a fundie Christian would more than likely be a Republican. He didn't do it to shore up the Jewish vote because Jews are still voting overwhelmingly Democratic, although the pug party is making concerted efforts to woo Jews.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:08 AM
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5. Lieberman is a Fascist in my Book
Go ahead flame away...
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:09 AM
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6. Sure - let's blame FEMA instead of
Edited on Sun Feb-19-06 11:09 AM by Solly Mack
- the deliberate and malacious neglect by the Bush adminsitration
- putting FEMA under Homeland Security and gutting FEMA's ability to respond (Ridge)
- cronyism - jobs going to the unqualified because they're really good at forking over money
and kissing ass

Easier to blame FEMA, the organization, than it is to tackle the real problem.



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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:22 AM
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10. BINGO!
But you really don't expect Dino Joe to put the blame where it truly belongs, do you?
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:33 AM
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11. Nope, sure don't.
:)

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teknomanzer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 12:45 PM
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23. Spot on! FEMA was a first class agency...
Until Bushco fucked it all up. Bush didn't want Homeland security either so he fucked that up too.

Republicans don't want a goverment that works for the people so they gut it, cut it, and stock it with unqualified sycophants. They are only interested in the sections of government that can make them a tidy profit. The military is the biggest example. They make money off the manufacturing of bombs and ordinance. Use the bombs to kill people and destroy infrastructure in foriegn countries. Then move in the same corporate war profiteers for a half assed rebuilding of the infrastructure at exhorbitant costs to American Taxpayers and exploit the people and natural resources of the ruined country.

New Orleans fits the plan. They saved money on the ordinance though, when Katrina did all the work. They let the levees go to completely wash out the people. Now they've delayed any kind of rebuilding effort so that developers can scoop up the land for pennies on the dollar... and build a New Orleans style theme park over the corpse of the real New Orleans. Plus they plan to exploit the labor their too.

These a-holes should be in prison.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:17 AM
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8. This asshole has got to go...I think that he is a repug plant and was
one when he ran for VP...I remember when he debated with cheney and how bad he did..maybe he did it on purpose...
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justgamma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:39 AM
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12. What's funny is that
the Cons were calling for Fema to go back to the way it was with Clinton.

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:50 AM
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15. Lieberman loves the Gestapo!
He would suck that Homeland Security dildo to his heart's content.

FEMA worked fine until the likes of Lieberman put it under the Gestapo, Homeland Security.
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aaronbees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 12:06 PM
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16. Lieberman's time in the Senate...
needs to dissolve. What a right wing stooge -- dissolving FEMA and strengthening it within Homeland Security is exactly what the neocons would love ... perfect scapegout and out for them.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 12:15 PM
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17. Oh, now that really makes a lot of sense
Edited on Sun Feb-19-06 12:16 PM by depakid
Why is it that the Dem "leadership" can't at the very least keep these DINO's from embarrassing them- and undercutting the party on TV every weekend?

I've gotten to the point where I'm damn near certain that a sizable element WANTS the party to keep losing. At this point, there's no other rational explaination for their behavior.
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 12:22 PM
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18. DHS was Lieberman's idea. It looks like DHS was as much as fault as anyone
Edited on Sun Feb-19-06 12:25 PM by Wordie
in the poor response to Katrina. Lieberman appears to have a bias here. A lot of experts say that FEMA needs to be taken out from under DHS, in order to be effective.

BTW, this was my 5,000th post!!!
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 01:31 PM
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24. Yep, DHS was his idea, and I was against it
Probably one of the few times I agreed with BushCo.

I thought, we don't need another government bureaucracy. Let's make the agencies we already have in existence, talk to each other and do their job to protect this country.

But then BushCo realized the majority of Americans were for DHS, so then Idiot Son & crew started supporting the idea of DHS, and tried to see how they could use it to their political advantage. They inserted language that would reduce worker's rights and make it easy to hire, fire and move employees within DHS. And when the Democrats protested, they said the Dems were upatriotic and didn't want to protect America.

It was absolutely disgusting.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 12:24 PM
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19. Ahhh...the GOP goal...thanks Lieberman GOP man!
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 12:27 PM
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21. Dear Joementum, when I cared what you had to say,
which was when you were suposed to go at CHEENEE in 2000 with hammer and tongs, all you did was take a flabby fart.

Yaas, Joementum had the Shirley TEMPLE look of a desperate politician who thinks he has hold of an idea the public will jump up and down about. Get this, Joementum, there is NOTHING the public will jump up and down about coming from you. The wingnuts, your biggest supporters, only tolerate you as a useful idiot.

Even though he's behind in his polls, he's still ahead of the competitor, ain't he. Sigh.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 12:44 PM
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22. I say let's dissolve Joementum instead.
Fuck Off Joe. Fuck off and die. Everything out of your mouth is vile asshat republican shit. I hope Lamont clobbers you and dissolves your political career in the acid bath of political retribution.

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Billy Burnett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 01:33 PM
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25. Next, Joe will call to dissolve the Dem party, and rebuild as the GOP
Oooops. :eyes:


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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 01:56 PM
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26. What an ass!
Hey Joe ... FEMA was fine (thanks to Clinton) until the Bushies got their grubby little hands on it! Why don't you mention that to the press, huh? :eyes:

I can't stand him! Is anyone challenging him?
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Sadie5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 03:35 PM
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28. It's like everything else they do
They messed it up and now they want to get rid of FEMA, hoping we will just forget their mistakes. Joe's gotta go!
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IrishBloodEngHeart Donating Member (815 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 08:23 PM
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29. it worked fine under Clinton,
Bush is an ineffective executive and can't run it properly.

If Holy Joe were any kind of democrat, he would be making that point.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 08:37 PM
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30. K&R (for the discussion, not Loserman's craven acpitulation) nt
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 08:39 PM
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31. No How about...
Lets pretend you are a True Democrat Senator... well either way were not going to do either of these things..
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Boo Boo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 03:56 AM
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33. Lieberman is an idiot. The trashing of FEMA was a result of the giant
Edited on Mon Feb-20-06 03:57 AM by Boo Boo
clusterfuck reorganization brought on with the creation of DHS. So, what's his answer to the problem? Another giant reorganization! DHS, not just FEMA, failed miserably during the flooding of New Orleans. Their major problem is that they've spent all their time reorganizing, jockeying for position within the new department, buying new equipment, etc. What they haven't done is address the real problems identified as contributing factors to the terrorist attacks.

We all saw the interim report from the 9/11 commission: a long string of D-minuses. Looking at all those D-minus grades, it becomes pretty clear that the commission wasn't going to give out any F's. I think we can just assume that, in fact, F's is exactly what they were giving.

The DHS reorganization has clearly been a failure. They have taken a giant step backward. We are now less prepared to respond to disasters than we were prior to 9/11. FEMA, which was one of the best run organizations, is now in disarray, with many of their best managers having left the department. Trent Lott, IMO, is on the right track in calling for FEMA to be separated from DHS as a cabinet level agency.

Frankly, I'd be happy to see DHS scrapped. I thought it was a colossal mistake from the start.
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madmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 04:03 AM
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34. can we dissolve lieberman
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 10:08 AM
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36. Typical repub logic: If it is broken do not fix it,
but do away with it all together.

Same with welfare, taxes - and according to some, government itself.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 10:14 AM
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37. Great news except, what gestapo/concentration camp runners does he
Edited on Mon Feb-20-06 10:17 AM by superconnected
want to replace them with?

"Lieberman, from Connecticut, said the agency, which oversees the federal response to natural disasters, should be taken apart and a different organization should be created in its place."

Bet the new org gets an incredible license to do what it wants independent of the law.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 10:15 AM
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38. His Senate tenure needs to be dissolved.
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DemonGoddess Donating Member (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 10:16 AM
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39. he's an IDIOT
put it back to the way it was, BEFORE this "homeland security" bs department took it over
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 10:21 AM
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40. He's saying create a new org.
Edited on Mon Feb-20-06 10:22 AM by superconnected
Do you even remember what FEMA was created for.

Since he's a bush supporter, the new org he's talking about should scare you. Name one branch of gov bushco created that supports our rights.

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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 10:24 AM
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41. Its the camps and thing more.
Edited on Mon Feb-20-06 10:30 AM by superconnected
``It's time for FEMA as we know it to go,'' he said on ABC's ``This Week.'' ``It's time to dissolve and rebuild it within'' the Homeland Security Department."
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