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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 11:12 AM
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Robert Durst found NOT guilty of murder..MSNBC
Edited on Tue Nov-11-03 11:13 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 11:13 AM
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1. Huh??? He "accidentally" dismembered his neighbor??
or did the guy just disintegrate:eyes:
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berner59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 11:18 AM
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2. Leave it to Texas...
Bizarre...maybe he and O.J. can start a company or something...
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mmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 01:38 PM
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12. that cartoon is GREAT!
and very funny, as well
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MoonAndSun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 11:19 AM
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3. do you have a link?
thanks
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 11:20 AM
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4. no link yet ...it is just breaking...verdict just read 10 minutes ago
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 11:21 AM
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5. Link
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 01:31 PM
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11. Jeez
Guy kinda looks like a serial killer.
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 11:23 AM
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6. Proof: We have the best judicial system money can buy. n/t
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 01:13 PM
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10. Miscarriage of justice
The guy must be really cracked. He should be placed where he cannot do harm to anyone else. What will be the next kooky act he will pull off? Money can buy the best criminal lawyers of course and there is something terribly wrong with the Texas legal system.
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MoonAndSun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 11:33 AM
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7. Yahoo link here
<http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&e=2&u=/ap/20031111/ap_on_re_us/fugitive_heir>




<snip> At defense attorneys' request, jurors considered only a murder charge. They could have asked that jurors consider a lesser charge, such as manslaughter, in addition to murder.


If he had been convicted, Durst could have been received a prison sentence from five to 99 years and a fine of up to $10,000.


Prosecutors called Durst a calculating, cold-blooded killer who shot Black to steal his identity. They said all his actions afterward, including cutting up the body and twice fleeing Galveston, were part of an elaborate plan to hide his guilt.


But defense attorneys contended Black was shot accidentally while the two men struggled for a gun after Durst found his neighbor illegally in his apartment. The defense said prosecutors failed to show jurors any motive for the killing or disprove self-defense.







the rich never do pay for their sins, at least not in this lifetime.

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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 11:43 AM
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8. any way to find out if this guy was a big contributor to chimpy?
nt
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 12:14 PM
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9. Political Money Line....just type in any name & click which election cycle
Edited on Tue Nov-11-03 12:23 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
WALLA! you can see how much and to whom anyone that contributed $200 & up gave too

http://www.fecinfo.com/cgi-win/indexhtml.exe?MBF=NAME
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 01:42 PM
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13. This after posing as a mute woman to avoid publicity re his missing wife

Prosecutors charged that Durst killed Black to steal his identity and use it to evade authorities seeking to question him about his wife's 1982 disappearance in New York and the 2000 murder of a friend, Susan Berman, in Los Angeles.



He moved to Galveston in 2000 where he posed as a mute woman and rented a shabby $300-a-month apartment to escape renewed publicity about the disappearance of his wife, Kathie Durst, who has not been found.



The jury of eight women and four men reached its decision in the fifth day of deliberations.


Was the OJ jury in town for this trial?



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mmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 01:52 PM
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14. Was that honey tongue Johnny Cochran his attorney?
If you can't find his head
He isn't dead



(was Ito in the area?)

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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 09:24 AM
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21. No, but here's an interesting tidbit about his legal team....
From a recent Houston Press, about half way down the page--look for "We're All in This Together":

www.houstonpress.com/issues/2003-11-06/hairballs.html/1/index.html

"The grisly Galveston murder trial of millionaire cross-dresser Robert Durst is making some people squirm with its descriptions of hacked-up bodies and other creepy goings-on.

"It's reportedly making one Houstonian squirm for yet another reason: the high-profile role played by defense attorney Mike Ramsey, a member of Durst's very expensive legal team that includes Dick DeGuerin.

"Ramsey has been getting less face time lately in the constant news reports about the case. That may be just a matter of preplanned strategy concerning which lawyer would handle certain parts of the trial, but another theory making the rounds among regulars in the courtroom is that Ramsey has been told to stay out of the spotlight by one of his other clients.

"That client would be Enron's own Ken Lay...."
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 08:39 PM
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15. Where's the outrage?
I don't hear that much outrage from the white folks here in Houston area regarding this case. Here was a rich guy where the evidence makes him look just as guilty as OJ. I guess because Durst, who is white, killed a white man.

And I don't know if some of you know but I believe the population in Galveston is majority black. So more than likely the majority of the jurors were black. I saw one of the jurors interviewed on tv (she was black) and others behind her black, she was making jokes about the outcome. I thought, wtf? I know I didn't hear all the evidence and the jurors did say they focused on the actual murder and not what happened after, so because the guy carved the guy up into pieces is no consequence. Those black jurors should be ashamed of themselves. Or were they bought?


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loudnclear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 09:24 PM
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16. Don't ever criticize the OJ jury in my presence...or California!
This was the most outrageous jury verdict in history!
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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 09:57 PM
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17. Maybe they can charge him with meat cutting without a butcher's license...
:eyes:

The "justice system" can be weird. Charlie Manson was convicted of murder even though he never went near the scene of the crimes. O.J. is still hunting the "real killer" on numerous golf courses. And a long time ago, (rats, my old brain is malfunctioning) one guy was convicted of bribing someone who was acquitted of receiving it (I can't believe I have forgotten the names, one of them was connected to a guy who was a friend of my dad's, Harry Sinclair), but OH! Fall and Doheny! It just came back to me. Yikes.

Anyway, there are jillions of examples of justice gone awry. Maybe somebody will come up with a better system before we exterminate our own species. I will not accept any wagers either way on that.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-03 10:08 PM
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18. that's news in america? rich white guy commits murder and gets off?
no rich man ever faced the gallows in this country.

had the man been poor he'd have fried
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 08:28 AM
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19. it's an insideout upsidedown america and it's fucking scary
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 08:29 AM
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20. More proof our "justice" system
is hopelessly broken. Only the non-rich do time anymore. I wish I could say I was surprised, but I AM disgusted.
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booksenkatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 09:54 AM
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22. Can't they at least get him for
desecration of a corpse? I mean, this is just unbelievable. I've been scuttling all over the floor trying to find my jaw, which hit the floor when I first heard the news of this murderer's acquittal. Gadzooks, it's like everyone who comes near this man dies or disappears. He sure as hell shouldn't be walking the streets. If he's not a murderer, then he's one hell of a lethal bad luck charm. He needs a sign on him, or something, to warn others.

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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 03:02 PM
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23. Ok, so he admits
to shooting a man and killing him. Then admits that he chopped up the body after killing him. Then admits that he took the chopped up bady parts and threw them in the bay. He admits all of these things on the witness stand, in front of the jury. The trial takes place in Texas, of all places. The accused is nicknamed the "crossdressing billionaire."

And the verdict is not guilty?

I think I am missing something. Not guilty?
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 03:21 PM
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24. not guilty of murder
if he had been charged w/ manslaughter a different verdict probably.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-03 03:41 PM
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25. In the annals of Texas murders....
You won't find many rich men (or women) who've done time. Houston's Candace Mossler & Fort Worth's T. Cullen Davis are notorious examples.

Did Dr. John Hill really murder his wife? Did oilman Ash Robinson really have Dr. Hill shot because of his daughter's death? (Joan Hill's death is highly questionable but Dr. Hill's death really looked like a hit; old Ash went to his reward in the fullness of his years.)

Clara Harris was rich enough to run over her husband in a Mercedes-Benz but, as a dentist, wasn't REALLY rich. So she got 20 years--there being eye-witnesses & all. Her lawyers pleaded for probation so she could care for her sons. After all, she is a single parent!

Yes, I have a weakness for True Crime stories of local or regional interest.
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