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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:39 PM
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Senate OKs Patriot Act renewal, sends to House
Edited on Thu Mar-02-06 03:49 PM by Bush_Eats_Beef
Senate overwhelmingly votes to renew Patriot Act - More soon

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/

ON EDIT: Thread headline edited to reflect posted story.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:39 PM
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1. Why do they do this crap????
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jilln Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:50 PM
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13. Simple.
Power never gives up anything without a struggle. Never has and never will.

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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 12:18 AM
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44. because they CAN
:(
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:40 PM
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2. Isn't This Old?
Didn't this happen yesterday?
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:41 PM
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4. It's a breaking news headline right now on MSNBC...
...that's why I didn't attach the story to it...they haven;t posted it yet. It's really, really breaking news.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:41 PM
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3. what dems voted yay? n/t
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:45 PM
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10. Probably all but four of them
On a related vote this week, I think the 'No' votes were Feingold, Byrd, Harkin, and one other Democrat who's name escapes me at the moment.

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Panda1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 04:35 PM
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23. "No" votes
Edited on Thu Mar-02-06 04:38 PM by Panda1
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/02/28/politics/main1356811.shtml
...
Voting 'no' with Feingold were Sens. Jim Jeffords, I-Vt., Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, and the Senate's constitutional expert, Robert C. Byrd, D-W.Va.
...

edit: Looks like this was cloture...see Radio Guy's "Here it is" post below

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nodehopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 06:00 PM
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28. what about ted kennedy???? kerry?????
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:41 PM
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5. Ben Franklin is spinning in his grave
Not happy. Not happy at all.
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:42 PM
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6. Forget spinning
I'm suprised he hasn't risen from the grave!
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:42 PM
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7. If a Dem takes the WH, watch the Patriot Act become unconstitutional.
Parts are, but that doesn't matter when the Repugs have the gov't locked up.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:44 PM
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9. The Dems would have nothing to do with this.
Determining whether or not something is or is not constitutionals be the Supremes and we can pretty much forget ANYTHING from them for at least another 25 years. They're currently and will remain a rubber stamp for the reich.
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:52 PM
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15. Didn't mean to imply that a new Dem administration would make it
unconstitutional. I meant that these restrictions to civil liberties are fine as long as there is a Rupug lock on the gov't. Should that change, there would be a fast-track to the Supreme Court to have the parts that Repugs don't want Dem to have to be declared unconstitutional. I'm aware of who decides whether something is unconstitutional.
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wtbymark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:43 PM
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8. Another sad day for American citizens n/t
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:45 PM
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11. Don't worry; it's a much needed tool to fight terrorism
and won't be used against Americans. :sarcasm:
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:48 PM
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12. The story is now posted on MSNBC:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11638713/

Senate OKs Patriot Act renewal, sends to House
Measure passes 89-10, after months of pitched partisan battles in Congress

WASHINGTON - The Senate on Thursday voted overwhelmingly to renew the USA Patriot Act, after months of pitched debate over legislation that supporters said struck a balance between privacy rights and the government’s power to hunt down terrorists.

The 89-10 vote marked a bright spot in President Bush’s troubled second term as his approval ratings dipped over the war in Iraq and his administration’s response to Hurricane Katrina. Renewing the act, congressional Republicans said, was key to preventing more terror attacks in the United States.

The House was expected to pass the legislation and send it to Bush next week, who would sign it before 16 provisions expire March 10.

The law’s opponents, who insisted that new protections passed 95-4 Wednesday were cosmetic, conceded defeat.

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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 03:51 PM
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14. Anyone know how Feingold voted. Up till now he has bee might fine on this
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Red State Rebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 04:02 PM
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16. Senate Votes To Renew Patriot Act.
According to Reuters it was 89-10.

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyid=2006-03-02T203547Z_01_N02358380_RTRUKOC_0_US-SECURITY-PATRIOT.xml&rpc=22

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Capping months of partisan wrangling, the U.S. Senate gave final congressional approval on Thursday to renewing the USA Patriot Act, a centerpiece of President George W. Bush's war on terrorism.

A day after passing a related bill to better protect civil liberties in this war, the Senate approved the renewal measure on a 89-10 vote. It next goes to Bush to sign into law. The House of Representatives passed it in December.

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RDU Socialist Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 04:03 PM
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17. the vote hasn't shown up on the senate vote page
Edited on Thu Mar-02-06 04:03 PM by RDU Socialist
which says it's updated every 20 minutes. And this was filed over 20 minutes ago. I think maybe they're talking about the cloture vote which was similar in the number (84-15-1). I have serious doubts only 10 senators voted against renewing the PATRIOT ACT since 15 senators voted to extend the filibuster debate on the issue.

edit: make myself clearer.


edit: shit it was approved. The roll-call votes aren't up, but I can't imagine it being 89-10-1.
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 04:06 PM
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18. here is the roll call
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Radio_Guy Donating Member (875 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 04:13 PM
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19. That's just the cloture vote
Thomas hasn't listed the roll call vote yet. When they do, it will be listed here:

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=2&vote=00029

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Radio_Guy Donating Member (875 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 04:19 PM
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20. Here it is
Edited on Thu Mar-02-06 04:24 PM by Radio_Guy
Akaka (D-HI), Nay
Alexander (R-TN), Yea
Allard (R-CO), Yea
Allen (R-VA), Yea
Baucus (D-MT), Yea
Bayh (D-IN), Yea
Bennett (R-UT), Yea
Biden (D-DE), Yea
Bingaman (D-NM), Nay
Bond (R-MO), Yea
Boxer (D-CA), Yea
Brownback (R-KS), Yea
Bunning (R-KY), Yea
Burns (R-MT), Yea
Burr (R-NC), Yea
Byrd (D-WV), Nay
Cantwell (D-WA), Yea
Carper (D-DE), Yea
Chafee (R-RI), Yea
Chambliss (R-GA), Yea
Clinton (D-NY), Yea
Coburn (R-OK), Yea
Cochran (R-MS), Yea
Coleman (R-MN), Yea
Collins (R-ME), Yea
Conrad (D-ND), Yea
Cornyn (R-TX), Yea
Craig (R-ID), Yea
Crapo (R-ID), Yea
Dayton (D-MN), Yea
DeMint (R-SC), Yea
DeWine (R-OH), Yea
Dodd (D-CT), Yea
Dole (R-NC), Yea
Domenici (R-NM), Yea
Dorgan (D-ND), Yea
Durbin (D-IL), Yea
Ensign (R-NV), Yea
Enzi (R-WY), Yea
Feingold (D-WI), Nay
Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Frist (R-TN), Yea
Graham (R-SC), Yea
Grassley (R-IA), Yea
Gregg (R-NH), Yea
Hagel (R-NE), Yea
Harkin (D-IA), Nay
Hatch (R-UT), Yea
Hutchison (R-TX), Yea
Inhofe (R-OK), Yea
Inouye (D-HI), Not Voting
Isakson (R-GA), Yea
Jeffords (I-VT), Nay
Johnson (D-SD), Yea
Kennedy (D-MA), Yea
Kerry (D-MA), Yea
Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Kyl (R-AZ), Yea
Landrieu (D-LA), Yea
Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea
Leahy (D-VT), Nay
Levin (D-MI), Nay
Lieberman (D-CT), Yea
Lincoln (D-AR), Yea
Lott (R-MS), Yea
Lugar (R-IN), Yea
Martinez (R-FL), Yea
McCain (R-AZ), Yea
McConnell (R-KY), Yea
Menendez (D-NJ), Yea
Mikulski (D-MD), Yea
Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
Murray (D-WA), Nay
Nelson (D-FL), Yea
Nelson (D-NE), Yea
Obama (D-IL), Yea
Pryor (D-AR), Yea
Reed (D-RI), Yea
Reid (D-NV), Yea
Roberts (R-KS), Yea
Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
Salazar (D-CO), Yea
Santorum (R-PA), Yea
Sarbanes (D-MD), Yea
Schumer (D-NY), Yea
Sessions (R-AL), Yea
Shelby (R-AL), Yea
Smith (R-OR), Yea
Snowe (R-ME), Yea
Specter (R-PA), Yea
Stabenow (D-MI), Yea
Stevens (R-AK), Yea
Sununu (R-NH), Yea
Talent (R-MO), Yea
Thomas (R-WY), Yea
Thune (R-SD), Yea
Vitter (R-LA), Yea
Voinovich (R-OH), Yea
Warner (R-VA), Yea
Wyden (D-OR), Nay

:banghead:
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 04:24 PM
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21. Reid voted Yea? hell... n/t
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 04:28 PM
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22. The usual pukes: Clinton, Biden, Bayh, Lieberman, Reid, etc.
And the heroes, including potential Democratic Presidential candidate Russ Feingold!
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Panda1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 05:10 PM
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24. Only four
Feingold, Jeffords, Harkin, and Byrd, are the only ones who voted both No both times. Feingold...a man I can support.

I'm exhausted by the betrayals. How the hell can ANY of them justify a Yes vote? They must WANT Buscheney to spy and wiretap with impunity and arrest people when the mood strikes them.
I can only surmise that Rove has threatened all of them and has the pics to back it up.
I saw Feingold on the Senate floor yesterday and it was sad. He's the only one who started and finished on our side, the side of liberty and justice for all and a little thing called The Constitution.

Deja vu all over again...PA and the IWR. Nothing we said could change their votes. Yup, I'm tired of it.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 06:50 PM
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32. Feeling the Feingold mojo, IG?
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Celeborn Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 05:13 PM
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25. I'm relieved Bingaman voted no
I haven't liked some of his latest votes, so this elevates him quite a bit in my eyes.
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 05:31 PM
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26. My letter to Senator Durbin
Senator Durbin,

I held out hope through the Roberts and Alito dog and pony shows, through the sham Congressional hearing on illegal wiretapping, to Cheney shooting a 78 year old man in the face. Not once have you or your fellow Senators even attempted to use that "dry powder" Sentor Reed so loudly touted, to protect WE, the People, from the spread of facism. I have no doubt it will not be any different with the UAE taking over OUR ports. I have finally determined, with the exceptions of Feingold, Byrd, and Jeffords, there is no spine left in the Democrats in Congress and WE, the People, are on our own.

Now with your vote in favor of the extension of the Patriot Act, I must inform you that I will not be voting for you in November. You, and most other Democrats in Congress, have sold us down the river. Most of you have cared only for appearances and have allowed the majority thugs to bully this once great country into a reviled country here, and around the world. The Democratic Party of my parents', grandparents' and great-grandparents' no longer exists! With the rare exception, there is not one of you that will stand up for what is right!

Shame on all of you!

XXXXX
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AlamoDemoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 05:36 PM
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27. This might as well get me into trouble by saying it
but I must admit that I long ago gave up thinking of how the Democrats in the senate vote on any particular issue...it really confuses the heck out of me.
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Clara T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 06:30 PM
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29. Pretty despicable
and all too predictable. Did anyone doubt that those who have facilitated the Iraq War and the Military takeover of the country would all of the sudden change their ways?
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LeaveIraqNow Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 06:33 PM
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30. Dont believe it.
Cant believe Kerry and Kennedy voted for this.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 06:49 PM
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31. How dare you attack a man who investigated BCCI!
:sarcasm:


Kennedy, otoh, is a surprise.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 07:37 PM
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33. no Democrat that voted for this will get my voter for president . . . n/t
.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 07:39 PM
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34. Yeah! If Boxer runs, I am voting for Nader!
:eyes:
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 12:20 AM
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45. i can't believe that she voted for this!
:(

i'd email her about it, but she doesn't return my emails.
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98geoduck Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 07:42 PM
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35. Looks like another 7 years of corporate rule.
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Dave Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 08:24 PM
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36. Dems playing the "see, we are tough on security" card.
Regardless of what is right or wrong.

sigh.
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latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 09:14 PM
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37. I am floored by this!
How do all these liberal Dems justify their "Yay" votes? This is sickening.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 09:22 PM
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38. How did supposed liberal judges approve of eminent domain?
Edited on Thu Mar-02-06 09:23 PM by Rex
And Repukes like Scalia went against it. I personally think it is a class war and there are no more sides. Not since the 80s.
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Borgnine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 10:07 PM
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40. Simple.
There are few Senators who do what they do because they want to make things better. Most look at it as a career or a way to have power and prestige, and as such are usually only worried about the best ways to win re-election.

It's sad, but since the slight majority of people in this country approve of domestic wiretapping and the like, that's the way the Senate Democrats blew. Disgusting.
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AlamoDemoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 10:28 PM
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43. We have no opposition in washington, but a fluke party called Democrats
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The Gunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 09:28 PM
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39. What is the Dems excuse?
They've just handed the exceutive branch more power. Impeaching Bush would be nice, but I think he's only the figurehead of a much bigger problem.
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 10:10 PM
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41. Hey, but we got 10 times as many no votes as last time!
:eyes:
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latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 10:21 PM
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42. Sound like the optimistic little boy
who got a big pile of horseshit for Christmas.

He kept digging--"I KNOW there's a pony in here SOMEWHERE!"

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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 12:59 AM
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46. Thank you, Democrats! For caring; for serving; for just being...you.
Yes, a big thanks to the worms whose votes once again have helped to do Bushism's work (with token resistance, to cover their cowardice).

To the ten who actually resisted: why not desert this rotting corpse and start a third party? One that might actually oppose, that might actually stand for something.

For now, the Onion has got our number, and how: http://www.theonion.com/content/node/45793
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 12:32 AM
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47. I was going to snip a gem from that but
the whole thing is a gem.

:thumbsup:
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