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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 11:24 AM
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Bush says he welcomes protests in London
Bush says he welcomes protests in London

Thursday, November 13, 2003


(11-13) 07:04 PST WASHINGTON (AP) --

President Bush said Thursday he welcomes the massive protests expected in London during his visit next week because "I don't expect everybody in the world to agree with the positions I've taken."

"I'm so pleased to be going to a country which says that people are allowed to express their minds," Bush said. "That's fantastic. Freedom is a beautiful thing." (snip)

(snip) "The fact that people are willing to come and express themselves -- I'm going to a great country," Bush said during a brief question-and-answer session in the Oval Office.

While saying that people don't have to agree with him, Bush said, "But certainly they should agree with the goals of the United States, which is peace and freedom." (snip/...)

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2003/11/13/national1004EST0530.DTL


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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 11:25 AM
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1. Then why does he have 800 bodyguards and why did he
ask the Mayor of London to basically shut-down the city?
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DeathvadeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 12:52 PM
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46. safety...we live in an age where even th pope has that kinda security.
Dubya knows he beter back track on his recent statements otherwise he would see a protest in London like no other.

It's all talk to tame the masses.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 03:22 PM
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61. "BRING EM ON"
I wonder if they will use Iraq tactics on the protesters.

Like shoot and kill them.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 11:26 AM
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2. I'm not going to dignify that with a response.
Shit. Just did.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 11:26 AM
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3. Well he's going to see just how really beautiful it can be.
Upfrot and personal. Ha ha!
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 11:27 AM
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4. Another way of saying, "Bring 'em on!"
Gorilla thumping his chest.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 03:23 PM
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62. He's an AWOL Chimpanzee
Don't give him too much credit.

LOL
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 11:27 AM
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5. The goal of the US is peace and freedom?
Then how come we're promoting war and oppresssion?
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 11:29 AM
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6. No, goals (pl) is peace and freedom...is our children learning?
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 11:33 AM
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13. No, he said "the GOALS...IS..."
"But certainly they should agree with the goals of the United States, which is peace and freedom."

He is an embarrassment on so many levels, in addition to being a lying mass-murderer.
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Demonaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 11:40 AM
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21. fool me once ....shame on me..
fool me twice ..shame on..shame on...you cant get fooled again! Thats the best one yet! WHAT A FU#KING MORON!
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Maeve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 11:42 AM
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23. No, NEVER "shame on me"!
ALWAYS "shame on you"! He "welcomes" protest, he just never wants to SEE it.
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Demonaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 11:43 AM
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24. sorry, i just woke up.... : )
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Maeve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 11:58 AM
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31. Good morning then!
:hi:
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 12:48 PM
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45. Welcome to the Brave New World..
1st rule in the Brave New World is to wake up when ya get up!
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TolstoyAndy Donating Member (493 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 12:02 PM
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34. "goals...is" Damn
We have a simple language, you only have to make subject and verb agree, and that even only in the 3rd person singular!

This is nothing more than laziness and contempt for all us great unwashed. It ain't folksy, folks.
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Robroy Donating Member (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 03:18 PM
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59. You don't understand...
his 'stratergy' obviously.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 11:30 AM
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7. no not everyone?
While saying that people don't have to agree with him, Bush said, "But certainly they should agree with the goals of the United States, which is peace and freedom."

hmmm....what does this mean then? dunce.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 11:32 AM
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11. Read 1984.
Edited on Thu Nov-13-03 11:34 AM by Screaming Lord Byron
Very Orwellian turn of phrase. Whose 'Peace and Freedom?'
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 01:01 PM
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51. They misquoted him
he meant "piece" as in "a piece of Iraq, Iran, Syria,...any country with oil" and the "Freedom" to make shitloads of cash from the deal!
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Punkingal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 11:30 AM
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8. That little weasel.....
trying to spin as people protesting all of us, not just him:

"But certainly they should agree with the goals of the United States, which is peace and freedom."
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 11:31 AM
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9. what a f***ing crock of sh*t!
this thing has the audacity to even mouth these words -

silencing dissent in America (see http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=217150 )

while stiffing the military (see http://www.msnbc.com/news/992826.asp?0dm=N18MN )

while silencing dissent in the military (see http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntry.asp?hid=115712&pt=todaysnews )

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 11:32 AM
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10. ok
"I'm so pleased to be going to a country which says that people are allowed to express their minds," Bush said. "That's fantastic. Freedom is a beautiful thing."

as opposed to the US, where such protest is unpatriotic.
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Demonaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 11:32 AM
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12. At least he's going to one Country that can speak its mind
Here we get shuffled off to an area so this idiot cant see the protesters, He stll thinks the american public as a whole believes in him...He will get a rude awakening in jolly old England...just wish I could be there.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 11:33 AM
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14. I don't know how much more I can take of living in Orwell's world
It is some days just more than I can handle.

Eloriel
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 11:34 AM
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15. What a lying f***wad!
This after London officials rebuffed U.S. requests to hamper any potential protests.
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 11:38 AM
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17. rock and a hard place
Exactly - since he didn't get the exlusion zone he wanted, he was faced with canceling the trip and losing even more face, so this is the best Rove can come up with. At least the mayor of London has a spine, unlike the mayors of all the US cities that the fund-raiser-in-chief visits at taxpayer expense.
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 11:45 AM
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London's police chief said "it's not my job to spare him embarrassment"
Edited on Thu Nov-13-03 11:47 AM by glarius
I heard this on the radio! LOL
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DeathvadeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 12:55 PM
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48. all I can say is............................ " Sweet!!!!!!" n/t
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 11:35 AM
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16. When's the last time the Chimp-in-Charge said "Bring it on"??...
I guess it is interesting for Chimpy to visit a country where "people are allowed to express their minds", because that no longer exists in this country.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 11:39 AM
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19. Yeah, Bunnypants* is big on Freudian slips, isn't he?
Must be a nice change of pace from his everday life to visit a member of the Free World.

Hey, thank God we still have the illusion of freedom down on our level, for however much longer it lasts...
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 11:38 AM
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18. Bull shit!
I'm sorry, I don't usually swear here at DU but this has gone beyond the pale.

What a crock of absolute shite this is! "I'm so pleased to be going to a country which says that people are allowed to express their minds,"

Umm, isn't he coming from a country that supposedly says the same thing?

This is atrocious! I'm so angry right now I could spit!

What arrogance. What bull shit!
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 03:17 PM
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58. Yep! That's our Bush*
Arrogant and full of bull shit, among other things.
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_NorCal_D_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 11:39 AM
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20. What bull!
I am particularly disgusted with this lie:

"But certainly they should agree with the goals of the United States, which is peace and freedom.":grr::grr:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 11:42 AM
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22. I wish he would welcome protests in America.
hypocrite.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 11:43 AM
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25. The goals of the United States
Yes, we USED to agree with the goals of the United States back when they WERE peace and freedom. Then you and your pals came around, the goals changed, and we don't agree anymore.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 11:45 AM
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26. Oh, good...
that must mean he's going to do away with those antidemocratic "First Amendment Zones" and let us practice a little democracy for a change! If his goal right now (subject to change if a breeze blows) is spreading democracy, why not lead by example, instead of just bombing the sh-- out of Iraq?
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shamanstar Donating Member (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 11:48 AM
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27. same ole iraq argument
he is trying to make that same point that never holds up- atleast this isnt iraq where you wouldnt be allowed to protest.

this IS disgusting. ok, we they said we cant shut the city down, so im just gonna make a big to do about welcoming protesters and then when they come, no one will be surprised.
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 11:48 AM
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28. Very childish retort, "So what, doesn't bother me none" says the
preschooler* from the oval office. "Peace and freedom" he's implying the protesting is against these principles, what an evil little simpleton*!
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 12:00 PM
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33. My first impression also
it's actually amusing and the type of thing that he can easily be called on to screw up when it happens. Make a good backdrop for one of the Dem candidates advertisements, I think. I suppose there would be no objection to the US media covering the event--
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returnable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 11:49 AM
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29. Bring 'em on!
n/t
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 11:56 AM
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30. From the man who said,
"There ought to be limits to freedom."

George W. Bush.

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Demonaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 11:59 AM
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32. Tower Of London
And the old chopping block...where the heads of those who dissented with the King had thier heads liberated from thier bodies....I'm sure King George wishes for the days of old.
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LibLabUK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 12:21 PM
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38. Hehe
I don't think commoners were ever executed at the Tower itself, send George to Marble Arch to do the Tyburn jig :)
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 12:06 PM
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35. "Just as long as we don't have free-speech in this country!"
Only traitors dissent here.
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MoonAndSun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 12:07 PM
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36. He's welcoming all you Brits to show up and voice your opinions.
Please make sure you all do. Wouldn't it be great if more then 100,000 showed up to let him know how they really feel about him!!
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 12:21 PM
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39. 100,000 nothing...
There were a million-plus anti-war protestors in February.

Hey, Chimp, what do you say to the MILLIONS who will be in the streets?
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 03:48 PM
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66. 100,000 wouldn't be enough. There were supposedly that many
in Washington on October 25th and look at the attention they got, and the impact they had: Absolute Squat.

He needs it shoved in his face, 24/7, over there. He needs to be globally shamed. Then he needs to see that HERE.
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Jack The Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 03:57 PM
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68. Our media reports 100,000 as thousands...
so even if there are massive protests, most of the sheeple never know about it.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 04:09 PM
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70. PLEASE...don't obey the rolling isolation zones or whatever they're called
Jump the fence, blow your whistles, flaunt your banners and scream bloody murder. Please...for those enslaved to King George the W.
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lindashaw Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 12:18 PM
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37. This is the same man who said, "We're going to be a kinder,
gentler nation." And also, "We're not in the business of nation-building." Now, if you believe that...
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 12:22 PM
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40. You want it, you got it!
Give 'em hell, protesters!
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 12:37 PM
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41. give 'em hell
remember to direct your signs towards the bbc and other foreign cameras and not fox. if this turns out really big, "mission accomplished!"
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kalazh Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 12:38 PM
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42. Karl Rove's
Edited on Thu Nov-13-03 12:40 PM by kalazh
desperate attempt to color the crapper
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peterh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 12:40 PM
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43. Evidence of tight insulation in his “I’m right and you’re wrong” little wo
"I don't expect everybody in the world to agree with the positions I've taken."

Actually, hardly anyone does and those that do, have either taken money over conscience or they live with no conscience.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 01:00 PM
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50. He followed that sentence up with...I expect them to agree with the goals.
and...the difference is??????????
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 03:50 PM
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67. And by the way, THAT, TOO, is a LIE.
The fact is, he DOES INDEED expect everyone to agree with him. In fact, he practically demands it.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 12:47 PM
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44. WHAT A F***ING DIPSHIT
this man does not know the meaning of the word FREEDOM.
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Starpass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 12:52 PM
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47. It brings images of yesterday when media said there
was fear that terrorists could mingle in the crowd, get too close to Bush and "boom".......I laughed. They don't even allow us Americans withing 15 billion miles of him because they are scared he might read a protest sign; I'm sure they planned on letting them thar foreign Brits just go up to him and have a spot of tea with him. I'm surprised they didn't ask that the island be cleared because failure to worship the god is not permissable.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 12:58 PM
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49. In the words of a pea brained politician..."Bring em On"
and..I hope all of London does exactly that. Show him how you REALLY feel Brits!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 02:13 PM
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55. "Read a protest sign"? Who would read it to him?
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 01:08 PM
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52. Hey............they're only focus groups!
Every country he visits has thousands of people and their focus groups reacting to his "goals"......remember this is a good thing, Americans!
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 01:56 PM
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53. clones
freedom to smirk means bow down to your lord and master you secular slobs.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 02:02 PM
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54. Translation: For Once, Bush Doesn't Get His Way
"I'm so pleased to be going to a country which says that people are allowed to express their minds...That's fantastic. Freedom is a beautiful thing...

"The fact that people are willing to come and express themselves -- I'm going to a great country," Bush said during a brief question-and-answer session in the Oval Office.


Your OWN country used to be like that, you know...


rocknation


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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 02:36 PM
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56. Not to Nitpick, but
...well I am going to, because that's just the kind of mood I'm in today. Regarding the below statement:

While saying that people don't have to agree with him, Bush said, "But certainly they should agree with the goals of the United States, which is peace and freedom." (snip/...)

Wouldn't it be "goals" ARE peace and freedom, instead of IS??

Maybe another one of our goals should be literacy for our selected officials. Oh, and impeachment :grr:
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 02:50 PM
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57. Wrong again, George - it's all about FINDING THOSE WMD!
Edited on Thu Nov-13-03 03:08 PM by Rex
Peace & freedom my ass. Get busy and dig up those WMD in Iraq you SWORE were there, ready to GO OFF at a moments notice. Peace & freedom, fah! Tell it to the Iraqi man our military bound and GAGGED (yes, tape over the mouth) for PROTESTING the occupation of HIS country! Peace & freedom, what a lark.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 03:20 PM
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60. Y'know, I think those pesky Brits have got WMD's.
Edited on Thu Nov-13-03 03:24 PM by Screaming Lord Byron
Kill 'em all!

ON EDIT - Did you notice this was my 666nd post.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 03:31 PM
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63. then he'll understand when he loses the election next year that it's
nothing personal, just us freedom-lovers exercising our constitutional right to get his blood-lusting freakshow out of al gore's white house.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 03:32 PM
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64. watching BBC covering
all these demands of squatter's handlers, they interject tape of Clinton walking thru crowds shaking hands and laughing w/ people on the STREET. The anchor said 'there will be no scenes reminiscent of Clinton's popularity'! Now THAT was an understatement!
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 03:37 PM
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65. Very subtle, the BBC, eh?
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 04:04 PM
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69. "I don't expect everybody in the world to agree"
Just the people of the US.
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Entente Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 04:47 PM
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71. yeah right!
Just words
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