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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 01:31 PM
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US sailor dies in Iraq non-hostile shooting
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_312407,001300180038.htm

A US sailor has died in a non-hostile incident in Iraq, the US military said in a statement on Friday.

"A Navy sailor from the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force died on Thursday from a non-hostile gunshot wound," the statement said, adding that the sailor was treated at the scene but died before arriving at a nearby medical facility. snip

The latest death brings to at least 50 the number of US service personnel to have died in accidents or other non-combat-related incidents since May 1, when the United States declared an end to major combat operations in Iraq.

At least 33 more have been killed in attacks.

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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 01:36 PM
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1. Dead is dead
So sad. wonder what happened here.

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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 01:46 PM
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2. I'm guessing suicide.
As per another thread around here a couple days ago.
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pw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 02:34 PM
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3. Friendly fire?
If your position is being fired on, and one of your own people hits you, is that a hostile wound?
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 02:45 PM
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4. Non Hostile?
What, the guy who shot him was friendly about it?
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 02:50 PM
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5. Suicide
It's suicide folks.

Very sad.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 02:51 PM
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6. "Non-hostile shooting"
According to the story, that includes suicide and accidental weapon discharge (such as during a cleaning). Now, I'm no expert on guns, rifles and other instrumentalities of mayhem, but aren't you supposed to unload a weapon before you clean it? (This is a serious question, I really don't know.)

But more than that, at the bottom of the article are these two paragraphs:

The latest death brings to at least 50 the number of US service personnel to have died in accidents or other non-combat-related incidents since May 1, when the United States declared an end to major combat operations in Iraq.

At least 33 more have been killed in attacks.

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That's a total of 83 dead since May 1. According to Bartcop today, there are a total of 224 fatalities for the whole shebang, from invasion through yesterday's figures. That means we've passed the halfway point of all the deaths during "major combat operations." I'm not a pessimist, but I have to believe that the level of hostility towards the troops in Iraq is only going to increase, and we've hit the halfway mark (death-wise) in less than three months since Chimpy's cock walk on the USS Abraham Lincoln. Even at this rate, it will be October 1 when the post "major combat" deaths outnumbre the "major combat" deaths, and it could easily happen before then.
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yella_dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 05:22 PM
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10. Yes
You unload it and disassemble it before doing maintenance. I would be very leery of "death by cleaning accident" claims. Soldiers are, on the whole, very well trained on the weapons they have access to. Or they were 30 years ago.

yella
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 05:34 PM
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11. Thanks
I appreciate the information about cleaning weapons (since I am highly unlikely ever to have first hand knowledge of such).
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 03:02 PM
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7. GreatCaesarsGhost
probably a navy corpsman.
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 03:42 PM
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8. Most likely
a corpsman. Supposed to not have a weapon.

Also with his back ground likely pretty level headed.

Not suicide.

IMHO
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-03 03:52 PM
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9. Corpsmen do carry sidearms
'For their own defense and the defense of thier patients' as it says in the Geneva convention.

As for being level headed, I'll just say that a Corpsman in a war zone is under a lot of stress AND gets to see firsthand the suffering of his fellows, many his friends, when they are injured.
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