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gWbush is Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 04:01 PM
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Iraqi elections right before 2004 U.S. elections
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 04:03 PM
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1. They're RUNNING!
I can't beleive it. Bush is going to cut and run after all.

NYAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 04:04 PM
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2. And if the Iraqis
vote in a theocracy much like Iran?

Or if there is so much chaos no election can be held?
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_NorCal_D_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 06:35 PM
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18. I don't that will happen.
It will no doubt be a puppet election. :(
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Frodo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 04:06 PM
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3. This is what I was saying earlier
We've (our candidates) have spent most of their time talking about just two issues: the economy and Iraq.

If the economy continues to improve then we'll lose that issue (shrub's numbers on "handling the economy" have already gone up significantly).

This leaves us tooting just one horn - Iraq. And Bush has WAY too much control over the Iraq story. What if he announces that OBL has been found and killed in a bombing attack a week before the election? Will there be time to prove him wrong? If they hold "free elections" in Iraq a month before our "not quite as free" ones go off here?

We need to pick some new issues.
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 04:07 PM
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4. How stupid do they think the American public is?
Please don't answer that.

"The Bush administration is proposing elections in Iraq (news - web sites) in the first half of next year and the formation of a government before a constitution is written, as it seeks to speed up the shift of power the Iraqis."
<snip>

How fucking convenient. This isn't even an October Surprise, they're telling us what it is before we even unwrap it.
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 04:07 PM
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5. Duplicate post.
Edited on Thu Nov-13-03 04:08 PM by Billy_Pilgrim
Lotta lag today here/
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 04:08 PM
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6. Nixon pulled this same stunt with his 'secret plan to end the war'
Turned out, there was no plan, and after he was re-elected, he ramped up US military presence in Vietnam. For a few years, anyway.

Mark my words: Bush is lying. He will look like we're pulling out right up until Nov 2004, then if he's re-elected, here comes the draft.

It's the ONLY way he was of protecting all those sweetheart privatization contracts his cronies got in Iraq (although they are also insured by the US Import/Export Bank, so we'll probably be paying the tab in the end).
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 04:08 PM
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7. I wonder if Halliburton and Bechtel
will make campaign contributions for their favorite "Iraqi" leader?
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BJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 04:10 PM
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8. jeeze, I said the very thing to a friend w/o seeing this!
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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 04:10 PM
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9. That way, who cards when its 1 person, 1 vote, 1 time.
Because there is no way they're going to build a functioning democracy among people with no experience of it, as fractious as Iraq is.

Civil war is a likely result, but the outcomes is liable to be unpleasant and a major issue in the 2008 when South Iraq/Iran are threatening the Saudi.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 04:11 PM
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10. Iraq elections
Let's see they can have Katherine Harris count the votes, they can use Diebold machines, they can make it hard for people in deeply religious parts of the country to vote (consolidate polling places, Halliburton engineered power outages, etc.) and then they can have Henry Kissinger monitor the elections to give it a bill of clean health.
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gWbush is Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 04:14 PM
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11. LOL!
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shawn703 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 04:15 PM
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12. It would be interesting
If during the elections, the Iraqis voted in a write-in candidate named Saddam Hussein. I wonder how the Bush administration would spin that one on the campaign trail. (Though I'm sure there's no chance it would happen, it would be interesting to see the Repugs squirm about that one...)
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gWbush is Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 04:18 PM
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13. he has name recognition despite bad policies
kind of like Schwartzengroper
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shawn703 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 04:25 PM
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15. And he probably has some support
From all those people in that "Sunni Triangle" they keep talking about.

The situation I'm sure would remind me of that scene in Dragonslayer, when the Princess's name came up in the lottery. The King then demanded that they draw again until they came up with a new name.
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 04:23 PM
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14. Rovian Foreign Policy
Wow I'm glad the "adults" are in charge and are putting whats best for the country and world ahead of political needs. :eyes:
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 04:26 PM
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16. Here is the list of U.S. approved candidates
1.) Ahmad Chalabi
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 06:33 PM
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17. Gosh. I didn't mean to kill this thread n/t
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american_mutt Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 06:35 PM
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19. let the purge begin
Unless the dumbaya 'pets' are voted in...
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-13-03 06:42 PM
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