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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 07:14 PM
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AP: Doctors Calls Could Have Been Captured (in domestic spying)
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/03/24/national/w155110S12.DTL

The National Security Agency would not have been barred from capturing communications between doctors and patients or attorneys and their clients during its controversial warrantless surveillance program, the Justice Department told Congress Friday.

Such communications normally receive special legal protections.

"Although the program does not specifically target the communications of attorneys or physicians, calls involving such persons would not be categorically excluded from interception," the department said in responses to questions from lawmakers.

... Michigan Rep. John Conyers, the House Judiciary Committee's top Democrat, complained about the department's evasiveness in answers to dozens of questions submitted to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.


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rawstory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 07:16 PM
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1. We have full Justice Dept. document at Raw Story
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 07:23 PM
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4. Thanks!!!
Peace.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 02:54 PM
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16. Pretty much a big "Go fvck yourself" directed at the Dems, eh?
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 07:16 PM
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2. And that...
Is yet another violation of federal law: HIPAA.

We need stocks. Pillories. Gibbets. Pike Poles.
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 07:17 PM
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3. Legal protections, now THAT was a fond memory.
Heaven forbid that BushCo would let something trivial
like the law get in their way. :eyes:

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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 07:29 PM
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5. One more thing,
most doctors have a link from their home computer to the hospital data base. This way they can check on lab work, orders, notes, etc in the middle of the night. If interceptions included home computers....well, so much for your privacy.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 07:46 PM
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6. Come on. We have no privacy, and we haven't had it for a long time now.
It's all bullshit. It's always been bullshit. Anybody that was around during VietNam or the McCarthy period ought to know it's bullshit. The laws are for for the "little people", the government does what it likes. Who is going to hold it accountable?
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:00 PM
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7. I wonder if "Fitz" calls have been "captured?" n/t
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:04 PM
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8. I always wondered how they knew it was al Quaida on the other end!!!
I just figured that they were listening to everybody and everything hoping to hear something interesting.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 08:12 PM
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9. Don't worry, they won't misuse or abuse that type of information...
:banghead:
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Mend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 09:14 PM
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10. at least now all my patients are ineligible for the draft.... eom
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 01:15 AM
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11. DOJ: NSA Could've Monitored Lawyers' Calls
WASHINGTON - The National Security Agency could have legally monitored ordinarily confidential communications between doctors and patients or attorneys and their clients, the Justice Department said Friday of its controversial warrantless surveillance program.

Responding to questions from Congress, the department also said that it sees no prohibition to using information collected under the NSA's program in court.

"Because collecting foreign intelligence information without a warrant does not violate the Fourth Amendment and because the Terrorist Surveillance Program is lawful, there appears to be no legal barrier against introducing this evidence in a criminal prosecution," the department said in responses to questions from lawmakers released Friday evening.

The department said that considerations, including whether classified information could be disclosed, must be weighed.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060325/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/eavesdropping
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 01:15 AM
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12. Could've == IS DOING RIGHT NOW
Edited on Sat Mar-25-06 01:13 AM by AndyTiedye
Goodbye attorney-client privilege. Been nice knowing ya. :-(
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 01:15 AM
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13. HUH?
"... because the Terrorist Surveillance Program is lawful ..."

Who decided that, and when?

I've GOT to stop sleeping six to seven hours every day. It's obvious that so much goes on while I'm in dreamland ...
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 01:18 AM
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14. Why didn't they just tell Congress to 'Fuck Off'?

"Because collecting foreign intelligence information without a warrant does not violate the Fourth Amendment and because the Terrorist Surveillance Program is lawful, there appears to be no legal barrier against introducing this evidence in a criminal prosecution," the department said in responses to questions from lawmakers released Friday evening.


That is the biggest load of crap masquerading as a 'constitutional argument' that I have ever heard in my life, bar none. Even when my sons were just little kids, they didn't try to pass off a whopper like that.

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mia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 07:15 AM
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15. DOJ: NSA Could've Monitored Lawyers' Calls
DOJ: NSA Could've Monitored Lawyers' Calls


WASHINGTON - The National Security Agency could have legally monitored ordinarily confidential communications between doctors and patients or attorneys and their clients, the Justice Department said Friday of its controversial warrantless surveillance program....

Since the program was disclosed in December, some skeptical lawmakers have investigated the Bush administration's legal footing, raising questions including whether the program could capture doctor-patient and attorney-client communications. Such communications normally receive special legal protections.

"Although the program does not specifically target the communications of attorneys or physicians, calls involving such persons would not be categorically excluded from interception," the department said.

The department said the same general criteria for the surveillance program would also apply to doctors' and lawyers' calls: one party must be outside the United States and there must be reason to believe one party is linked to al-Qaida. The department's written response also said that these communications aren't specifically targeted and safeguards are in place to protect privacy rights....


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060325/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/eavesdropping


"Safeguards are in place to protect privacy rights." It won't be long before this program is promoted as:

Warrantless Surveillance - providing safeguards for all Americans
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 06:34 PM
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17. WHERE oh WHERE is the F'ing Corporate Media!!!!!!
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-25-06 07:40 PM
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18. they answered almost NONE of the democrats questions
it was an utter slap in their face. and there's this: "The department also avoided questions on whether the administration believes it is legal to wiretap purely domestic calls without a warrant, when al-Qaida activity is suspected. The department wouldn't say specifically that it hasn't been done."

there will be a day of reckoning though, once the democrats have a majority in either house, they'll be able to shed some light on these and other criminal acts.
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