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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:30 PM
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Mental Patient Charged With Threatening President Bush
A Palestinian man faces federal charges of threatening President Bush over comments made while getting mental-health care, according to an indictment made public this week. News of the indictment raised questions Friday about how to treat such comments by mental patients.

Federal grand jurors indicted Arafat Nijmeh on March 23 on two felony counts of "knowingly and willfully" threatening to harm Bush -- first by telling two workers at his treatment center that he wanted to castrate Bush, then a day later to Secret Service agents notified by the center.

More:
http://wtol.com/Global/story.asp?S=4742094
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:33 PM
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:36 PM
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7. watch your tongue, you may be next in line...
Edited on Fri Apr-07-06 02:39 PM by tocqueville
or sent to a mental hospital for a minor lobotomy...

btw he didn't say kill but castrate
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Betsy Ross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 03:00 PM
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9. Bush has balls? n/t
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 03:00 PM
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10. Ezlivin you should edit your post
Edited on Fri Apr-07-06 03:02 PM by 951-Riverside
Its not that I'm not looking out for Bush, I'm looking out for you I would hate to find out that the Secret Police Service paid you a visit.

I hate the boy man myself (I have nothing more to add).
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:33 PM
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2. He's mental? aren't we all a little sick of *
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:34 PM
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3. comments made while getting mental-health care?????????
Well, fuck that Doctor-Patient confidentiality bullshit...but only when your patient is one of them furriners, I'll bet.

Ya gotta wonder what John Hinckley told HIS shrink, eh???
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:52 PM
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8. There's always been a clause in doctor/patient and lawyer/client...
Edited on Fri Apr-07-06 02:53 PM by CanuckAmok
...relationships, in which any information which poses a credible threat to someone else must be reported to the authorities.

Like, for example, everything you tell your psychiatrist is kept in confidence, and even a court cannot order disclosure, but if you tell your shrink you're molesting kids, the shrink is bound by law and professional ethics to report it.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 03:37 PM
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14. Credible, sure, but that is not credible, unless the SS are incompetent
Federal grand jurors indicted Arafat Nijmeh on March 23 on two felony counts of "knowingly and willfully" threatening to harm Bush -- first by telling two workers at his treatment center that he wanted to castrate Bush, then a day later to Secret Service agents notified by the center.

The indictment says Nijmeh told the agents that his threat "is not too harsh, considering what he has done to my country. If not that than maybe something else, you know?" Nijmeh, 26, later said he was joking.


What's he gonna do, get close enough to the royal crotch with a set of snippers or a steak knife??? He did not even express INTENT, planning, only WANTING, a desire, if you will. And he mitigates his idiotic wish by making a remark about degree of harshness of his proposed punishment.

Go into any coffee shop in the land, and I wouldn't be shocked to hear similar sentiments expressed, what with rising gas prices, rising heating prices, increased local taxes, decreased federal services. Wanting ain't doing. This had EVERYTHING to do with the ethnicity of the speaker, IMO. If Joe Sixpack said it, the doctor probably would have joked about locking up his scalpels.

That said, it's a cautionary tale. Ari said it--watch what you say, watch what you do.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 03:49 PM
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15. Credible is the key word here
I worked in the mental health field for awhile back in the eighties, and many clients would make threatening statements towards Reagan. None were turned over to the authorities, because d'uh, these people were ill and needed help.

Sounds like a bigoted, RW psychiatrist heard this and decided to teach this poor man a "lesson"
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 10:21 PM
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24. Not just shrinks ... any doctor....
When the new privacy rules came out, my doc's office gave me one to sign -- and there was something in there about how my doc would report to the gov is I sais anything threatening the prez. Well, not just me. Everybody. And this is a general practice doc.
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:35 PM
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4. the Russians used to send critics to mental hospitals...
that was far more effective
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 02:35 PM
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 03:07 PM
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11. Like the guy actually had the means to carry out that threat.
Now if this poor mental patient was * personal testicle buffer when he was not undergoing treatment I could see the necessity of the Secret Police, er Service's involvement, but as it is, this dangerously close to moronic activity...
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 03:20 PM
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12. So he's an immigrant? (n/t)
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Bush_MUST_Go Donating Member (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 03:28 PM
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13. And yet, when OBL threatened to kill Americans...bush didn't worry at all
Edited on Fri Apr-07-06 03:35 PM by Bush_MUST_Go
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:22 PM
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17. I've always wondered why "The Base" always threatens to kill us
but not.... (well you get the point :)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 03:59 PM
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 04:35 PM
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18. Mental Patient Charged With Threatening Mental President
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 07:10 PM
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19. He's really lost the support of his own people. nt
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cureautismnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 09:02 PM
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21. ROTFLOL...
Good one. His mentally deranged base is breaking from the script.

:rofl:
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 08:48 PM
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20. what a complete crock, 'a PALESTINIAN...'
is ALL you need to know about this tale.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 09:05 PM
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22. pResident Shrub threatened himSELF????????? n/t
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 09:12 PM
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23. He should be released... n/t
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 10:36 PM
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25. when a wanker whops a tosser
Edited on Fri Apr-07-06 10:39 PM by sweetheart
When a wanker whops a tosser,
when we were expecting so very much more,
we're really at a loss here,
what to do with a dreadful bore.

Depose a republican errant whore,
sold off those goods of that greater citizen,
lead by an profulgate tushian spore,
who's bushrooms sprout in a dark age of zen.

Grotty connecticut texas louse,
no return, power to people, Amen.
snotty out-of-touch little mouse,
wait long for the law, then we're even.
insane rich-kid slacker,
fated public slapper.
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cartach Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 03:40 AM
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26. Hindsight's a wonderful thing.
Someone should have castrated his great-grandfather.
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Jazz2006 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 04:01 AM
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27. Oh, come on...
Edited on Sat Apr-08-06 04:11 AM by Jazz2006
You're not really serious about this, are you?

Granted, I'm new here, but I rather thought (on what I thought was good authority) that there were intelligent and interesting people around. This particular thread does not bode well in that regard.

Oh well, I'll keep looking.


(later) What's with all of the "deleted message" posts?

Is that normal around here? Seems odd to me.





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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 12:51 PM
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28. My guess re the deleted posts...
...is that they crossed a line by being offensive or personal attacks. Or they may have contained threats that would bring the SS to DU's door.

Since your post was a reply to my posting and not one of the other posts, I'm curious. Are you saying I shouldn't have posted this topic?
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fshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 02:03 PM
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29. Everybody knows that
to feel like threatening the current tenant of the White House, you have to be seriously mentally ill. In the case in point, this knowledge is of course confirmed by the means of aggression considered, for you have to be seriously mentally ill to feel like performing such a useless procedure.
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NIGHT TRIPPER Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 02:13 PM
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30. who's posting all these deleted posts? are people threatening the Chump?
is it outsiders trying to discredit D.U.
?
or is it racist Palistinian remarks?

i missed it-
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